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2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012

This is what I'm happiest with right now.
Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
RO: SS Caitlin's co
Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
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RizosMio, how did the call go? I'm curious to hear about the Komaza analysis!
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
It was crazy thorough! So right after one buys the analysis one gets a health questionnaire (body and hair) to fill and submit. Right before the call they send you pictures of your hair strands. So my call started by going over every single photo to make sure I understood what I was seeing. Afterward we went over every question on the questionnaire and she would input where improvements can be made. And lastly she answered any question in general that I may have.

I don't really have any issues with my hair, but this analysis really has the potential to help someone that is experience extreme dryness or breakage or just not progressing in general. Also great to just know the overall condition of the hair.

As far as me! She said I had coarse strands (they measured .105 to .138 millimeters or 105 to 138 micrometers) and said my cuticles were slightly lifted indicating normal porosity, which is what LCLF told me too. She typed me as 3C. My issues were in my relaxed hair which show high porosity, chewed and lifted cuticles, breakage, worn hair in general, so a big chop is definitely in order but uhhh I dunno when I'm going for it We talked about when I might like we were besties or something, lol. She loved that I don't use heat, she surprisingly loved that I recently implemented a shampoo in my regimen. She said to use it weekly. I was also given suggestions on what to eat to help treat my scalp issues (oiliness, mild seborrheic dermatitis). Their written report is very extensive with many vitamins and foods to eat and of course a summary of the conversation. I may do their analysis yearly just to make sure the hair is on track, they offer a discount once you're a customer.

Definitely way better than the copy-paste job LCLF does but considering the price difference, I'd hope so!
Neleke, are you still waiting for yours? Just a thought, you might want to check your e-mail junk folder, maybe???
2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012

This is what I'm happiest with right now.
Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
RO: SS Caitlin's co
Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
glycerin, honey, oils & butters Protein!
RizosMio, I've read a very extensive thread on a different forum and they all experienced the same as you. It really sounds worthwhile the money, even though it's more expensive. Did LCLF identify the same properties as Komaza?
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
Thanks for the update Rizosmio! I think it's great we have those two options, the cheaper basic service from LCLF and more expensive detailed analysis from Komaza.

Is all your relaxed hair in that condition or were they able to suggest losing a modest amount immediately then trimming the rest over time? I know from my 'journey' growing out chemical and mechanical damage it is such a challenge babying two hair types but so hard losing inches!
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Yes, I got the same exact properties from both LCLF and Komaza.

Is all your relaxed hair in that condition or were they able to suggest losing a modest amount immediately then trimming the rest over time? I know from my 'journey' growing out chemical and mechanical damage it is such a challenge babying two hair types but so hard losing inches!
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
She stressed a few times that the last 3 inches really have to go and it was written in my report a few times too. She said that as the hair is resistant in general that it has held up well to my past abuses (lol) but she still recommends all the relaxer to go, with emphasis on those last 3 inches. I've only been transitioning 13 months...I don't want to cut yet but I'll get rid of the 3 inches and keep the rest for a bit. The pics of those ends were pretty mean-looking.
Still waiting so I still belong to the hair analysis waiting board I created

I sent an e-mail to their salesmailadress last Thursday and sent another one on their "info"mailadress yesterday. Haven't gotten an answer yet though.
I'm starting to get a little bit worried.
I don't really think it is their fault or something, but I'm worried that my hair got lost overseas or something like that. (It did have to travel around 7400 kilometres...)

I really like it though that you got the same results from Komaza and LCLF, RizosMio. (although Komaza was more detailed ofcourse)
That gives me more confidence about both services as well (it can't be an accident that they agree).
I might do the Komaza one in a couple of years or so (whenever I work and have more money than with being a student now).

I really want my results so I would know what to do... It wouldn't frustrate me that hard if I just had an idea what my hair properties were but I keep on changing my mind!
I really don't have a clue what they are and so I need help.
The longer I have to wait for my results, the longer I will keep on having not-great hairdays .
Neleke, I understand your frustration. However, try to embrace your hair as it is right now. I think we all tend to raise the bar a little too high in the beginning, leading to even more frustration when we don't get those fantastic results we see in the before & after thread.

I've been unconsciously CG for a few years now, but they discontinued both my low-poo and conditioner, and it turned out that my styler had a few cones (so I wasn't entirely CG, but the poo and condish were entirely natural). Then I decided to delve into the world of CG and figured I had coarse hair, low porosity, high density. I was sure about all of them and bought new products accordingly.

I turned out to be wrong. My hair totally responded like fine hair and I figured that out because of my product choices. It takes trial and error, and good observing of your hair to figure out what it likes and dislikes. A hair analysis can help with that journey.

Perhaps it helps if I explain my properties (self-assessed!).

Low porosity: my hair doesn't get wet easily and if I use a spray bottle to spray it wet, I get all these beads just sitting on my hair. I have to use products with oils in them sparingly because again, these tend to sit on my hair and weigh it down.

Fine hair: as I've said, I was convinced I had coarse hair. I struggled for a long time to accept that it's actually fine. I get overconditioned very easily and again, my hair being weighed down quite fits the image. Also, I stayed away from protein because I thought it was coarse, but my hair seemed to lack life and was very limp. That's why I tried protein and though it's not a massive difference, it definitely perks it up. Also, people told me I lacked a frame of reference which is true! You could compare it to the hairs down there, though. If it's the same, then it's normal width. You may guess the other two options.

High density: I just have a lot of hair, and very voluminous as well!

So far, I've noticed that my hair dislikes cones and sulfates, leading to being fuzzy (not even necessarily frizzy because I am not frizz-prone). It responds well to protein and perhaps I can even add more to my routine, like a PT such as CJ Repair Me! (but it's expensive and I'm a student, just like you). Other characteristics are that it gets weighed down easily so I have to be careful with heavy ingredients. I know some other low porous/fine haired curlies can use them in minute amounts, but usually only in a product and not "pure." I also noticed my hair experiences some build-up and frizz when wet when I have used CJ CQ, and it turns out that this is because of polyquats, so when I have to get a new styling product (which will be soon, yay!), I'll stay away from polyquats.

Honestly, I'm still everything but sure about my properties and I would love to find something that actually really works, but I like the fact that it's a journey. My biggest problem is finding a styling product with enough hold. My hair is so heavy. I also struggle with the moisture balance.

Hope this helps you in whatever way. You should enjoy and embrace your hair (which I know is difficult if it just doesn't do what you want it to).
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
my biggest frustration is that like 5 weeks ago, my hair was really awesome for 2 weeks. But really awesome!
Now it isn't anymore, and I don't know what caused that...
Hope to know more whenever I get my results (which hopefully is soon).

I would even like it if they would send me and email with "we didn't get your hair so we can't analyse it". At least I know what's happening then.
I just have to be patient I guess...

The post office told me my letter (ofcourse I didn't tell them it was hair ) would arrive in Florida 3-4 days later so that would've been april 17th-april 18th. Counting from then, it has been 5 weeks. Which isn't that bad I realize but still . I'll be a very happy girl whenever I get my results.

(and yes I checked my spamfolder )
Fine hair: as I've said, I was convinced I had coarse hair. I struggled for a long time to accept that it's actually fine. I get overconditioned very easily and again, my hair being weighed down quite fits the image. Also, I stayed away from protein because I thought it was coarse, but my hair seemed to lack life and was very limp. That's why I tried protein and though it's not a massive difference, it definitely perks it up. Also, people told me I lacked a frame of reference which is true! You could compare it to the hairs down there, though. If it's the same, then it's normal width. You may guess the other two options.
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
I went through this with my porosity. I thought up and down that it was low but high density plus thick hair can result in strands that seem lo-po apparently. It took me a long time to change the property in my siggy after my LCLF analysis...it's funny how we kind of identify with these things to the point where it's hard to accept if told otherwise.

Neleke, try emailing marypat@livecurlylivefree.com . This is the email that sent me the report.
She stressed a few times that the last 3 inches really have to go and it was written in my report a few times too. She said that as the hair is resistant in general that it has held up well to my past abuses (lol) but she still recommends all the relaxer to go, with emphasis on those last 3 inches. I've only been transitioning 13 months...I don't want to cut yet but I'll get rid of the 3 inches and keep the rest for a bit. The pics of those ends were pretty mean-looking.
Originally Posted by RizosMio
Well that does sound like useful information, three inches is not too bad and hopefully you will find your hair easier to manage or looks even better which will soften the blow.

I think many of us find Curly Girl as a result of past abuse, I came to NC via the Long Hair Community which I went to because I was starting to realise how much breakage and high porosity I had. Mine was mechanical and box dyes instead of relaxer, but it's all much the same result! I never did keratin straightening but I did have a few curly perms back in my teens when I thought I had poufy straight hair. The hair stylist could not understand why my hair took the curl so fast, now I know it is because my hair is naturally wavy/ curly!
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Still waiting.
I emailed them 2 weeks ago and last Saturday I got a reply that they sent me my hair analysis on may 20th, however I didn't receive any email, so they told me to mail them back if I hadn't recieved the email and that they would be resending it.
I emailed them back on saturday to tell them that I didn't receive anything and to ask them to resend the analysis.
Still waiting.
As I am having exams and am stressing out anyway, I'm kind of getting impatient

However, I'm really happy to have heard that my hair arrived in Florida (I was a bit paranoia about sending my hair overseas )

To be continued!
*goes back to studying, "Latinamerican Culture", something about human rights at the moment...*
Did you check your junk email?

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3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
Neleke, this is totally irrelevant but what do you study? Sounds as if you're doing something at a humanities faculty.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
ROFL Laura,
I'm a translatorstudent (Master Translation Dutch, French and Spanish and I used to study English as well, but I stopped studying English because I convinced myself that I sucked at it, big time).
I'm definitely fearing my culture-subjects and my "translationstudies"-subject...
And I still have to finish that dreaded thesis of mine (dreaded since I completely want to throw it out of the window since well yea...I worked on it for a whole year and it still isn't finished)

I really love languages, and I loooove translating, but I will be so happy when it's August/September and when I will be able to stop studying (hopefully).

Just to keep everyone updated and to be like "pity meeee": I have been studying the Falkland war today, was studying the comparison between the Spanish "Inquisición" and nazi-Germany yesterday and I will probably be studying the period in Latinamerican literature called "boom latinoamericano" tomorrow...

Aaand I still have to study other things, still have to write essays, and still have to read some books...
(not to mention the thesis monster, but I'm not working on that now since I'm having exams)...

Yes I'm having stress, Yes I need to vent
and yes I want my hair analysis... now!

But at least I can say that I'm having a couple of good hairdays since 3 days ago
Sounds very interesting! Good luck with all the exam stress, though.

I study English Language & Culture (BA, almost done).

What was your routine the last few days?
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
Can't see why they did not resend your analysis right away, disappointing service.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
I'm wondering... should I email them again? and maybe now on marypats mailadress instead of the salesadress?

The last time I emailed them was as the answer to tell them that I indeed did not get my results and that was May 25th

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