CJ Daily Fix a co-wash or low-poo?

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I was wondering about this. Since Daily Fix contains Cocamidopropyl Betaine shouldn't it be considered a (SLES free) low-poo?
What do you think?
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
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Cocamidopropyl Betaine on it's own is such a weak surfectant that combined with the fact that it isn't even the second ingredient it can be a co-wash. I think this ingredient is even in non-cleansing traditional conditioners.

Mostly, I think CJ wanted a way to separate it from the Gentle Cleansing Shampoo. Most conditioners labeled "cleansing conditioner" have more surfectants than light conditioners used for cleansing. Co-washing is a process, where any conditioner can be used, a cleansing conditioner is a type of product marketed by companies that want to capitalize on this process. In other words, read the ingrdients to get exactly what your looking for.

Last edited by Jessiebanana; 05-15-2013 at 01:16 PM.
It's a cleansing conditioner, so I'd consider it as in between a cowash and a low poo. The only real foaming /sudsing agent in the Daily Fix is Cocamidopropyl Betaine, aside from some cationic surfactants which provide emulsion stabilization, conditioning, and some foaming action. So, it may cleanse slightly better than a typical cowash conditioner, but not as well as a low poo. A true low poo would have a couple other additional foaming /sudsing ingredients to boost the cleansing effect, like Decyl Glucoside, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, or other gentle cleansing ingredients.
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CG since 11/2011
2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's (link) as needed
Geek-Chic & Jessiebanana thanks for the reply. I was wondering about this because I want to avoid conditioner on my scalp and I don't want the DF to cause me any trouble. (Just bought a new bottle you see)

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2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl
Geek-Chic & Jessiebanana thanks for the reply. I was wondering about this because I want to avoid conditioner on my scalp and I don't want the DF to cause me any trouble. (Just bought a new bottle you see)

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2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
Originally Posted by rapunzel4ever
Which particular ingredient(s) in conditioner do you want to avoid on your scalp? What trouble are you expecting or trying to avoid?

Looking at the ingredients for Daily Fix that is more of a conditioner than a shampoo: after water the next four ingredients are cationic surfactants and fatty alcohols which are all 'classic' conditioning agents.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Products can be whatever the manufacturer wants to call them. That's why you have to become ingredient savvy.

Prior posts have given you a good explanation why DF is cleansing conditioner despite having a gentle surfactant.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
I am trying to avoid ingredients in my washing routine that can cause weak/soft roots. I'm practically certain that's the main reason my hair is thinning: because of over-conditioned roots.
So, I guess I'd probably be better off avoiding DF on my roots and wash only my lengths with it... :-\

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2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl

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