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Old 05-15-2013, 07:01 PM   #1
 
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So I just bought some BRHG, and I want to know how it works for other curlies! Especially those who have my hair properties.

Type: 3a
Porosity: Low
Density: Medium
Width: fine-med.

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I don't have your properties, but I like BRHG. For me it works better if I mix a dab of it in with another gel, to make it easier to spread across my whole head of hair.
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A wavy here but no matter what I use prior I seem to have to top it off with some thinned out BRHG. I often just put a pea size amount in my hand and mix it with a little water to scrunch in a section over the top of anything.
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I love the stuff! Check out this current thread too:

BRHG works for me!
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My fine/low porosity hair hates it. Luckily, I've gotten my curl pattern strong enough from all I've learned on nc.com that I don't need a strong hold gel.
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My fine/low porosity hair hates it. Luckily, I've gotten my curl pattern strong enough from all I've learned on nc.com that I don't need a strong hold gel.
Kathymack, why does your hair hate it? I have the same properties and its the first styling product my hair seems to like. By the way, I want to thank you for teaching me about polyquats. I've used BRHG on its own after clarifying so I had absolutely no polyquats left in my hair and it looked great. Now I ran out of BRHG (I only had a sample and I have to wait until I have enough money before I can get a normal size version) and I applied CJ CQ again. While my hair was wet, I noticed the frizz that I didn't have with BRHG. Also, my hair feels gunky after a few days of using CQ, which is not the case with BRHG. So yes, I'm definitely eliminating polyquats!

Back to BRHG again.
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My fine/low porosity hair hates it. Luckily, I've gotten my curl pattern strong enough from all I've learned on nc.com that I don't need a strong hold gel.
Kathymack, why does your hair hate it? I have the same properties and its the first styling product my hair seems to like. By the way, I want to thank you for teaching me about polyquats. I've used BRHG on its own after clarifying so I had absolutely no polyquats left in my hair and it looked great. Now I ran out of BRHG (I only had a sample and I have to wait until I have enough money before I can get a normal size version) and I applied CJ CQ again. While my hair was wet, I noticed the frizz that I didn't have with BRHG. Also, my hair feels gunky after a few days of using CQ, which is not the case with BRHG. So yes, I'm definitely eliminating polyquats!

Back to BRHG again.
I never used any products until I started lurking on nc.com. Of course, I had to try everything when I did start using them. For the most part, many products seem fine when you first use them. I learned a lot more about my hair. Started using more natural products that didn't have all of the chemicals and my hair looked better and better. Finally, I discovered that the polyquats in some of the more natural products were "staying" on my hair (I've been told that polyquats don't build up) and causing the frizz when wet.

Here are the ingredients for the BRHG:

Water (Aqua) , PVP , Acrylates , Steareth-20 Itaconate Copolymer , Propylene Glycol , Hydrolyzed Silk , Panthenol , Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate , Triethanolamine , Diazolidinyl Urea , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Methylchloroisothiazolinone , Methylisothiazolinone , Fragrance , Hexyl Cinnamic Aldehyde , Benzyl Benzoate , Linalool , Gamma Methyl Ionone , Citronellol , Lilial , Hydroxy Citronellol , Geraniol , Eugenol , Blue 1 (CI 42090) , Red 33 (CI 17200)

It's been almost five years since I've used it, so I can't remember exactly how it reacted. I just remember that it was MUCH worse with it then without it.

There was a product that I found at Sally's that is a hard hold gel

Beyond the Zone - SPIKE - Beyond The Zone Spike It Spiking Gel

The ingredients are a little more natural and it's cheaper. I remember my hair liking it a little more. I don't really need a hard hold gel, so don't keep anything like this around.

WATER ,PVP ,GLYCERIN ,ACRYLATES/STEARETH-20 ITACONATE COPOLYME ,PROPYLENE GLYCOL ,TRIETHANOLAMINE ,PEG-40 HYDROGENATED CASTOR OIL ,PHENOXYETHANOL ,CAPRYLYL GLYCOL ,PANTHENOL ,POTASSIUM SORBATE ,FRAGRANCE ,HEXYLENE GLYCOL ,TETRASODIUM EDTA ,HYDROLYZED SOY PROTEIN ,LIMONENE

Don't know if you can find Beyond the Zone where you live. It may be worth a try.
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My fine/low porosity hair hates it. Luckily, I've gotten my curl pattern strong enough from all I've learned on nc.com that I don't need a strong hold gel.
Kathymack, why does your hair hate it? I have the same properties and its the first styling product my hair seems to like. By the way, I want to thank you for teaching me about polyquats. I've used BRHG on its own after clarifying so I had absolutely no polyquats left in my hair and it looked great. Now I ran out of BRHG (I only had a sample and I have to wait until I have enough money before I can get a normal size version) and I applied CJ CQ again. While my hair was wet, I noticed the frizz that I didn't have with BRHG. Also, my hair feels gunky after a few days of using CQ, which is not the case with BRHG. So yes, I'm definitely eliminating polyquats!

Back to BRHG again.
I never used any products until I started lurking on nc.com. Of course, I had to try everything when I did start using them. For the most part, many products seem fine when you first use them. I learned a lot more about my hair. Started using more natural products that didn't have all of the chemicals and my hair looked better and better. Finally, I discovered that the polyquats in some of the more natural products were "staying" on my hair (I've been told that polyquats don't build up) and causing the frizz when wet.

Here are the ingredients for the BRHG:

Water (Aqua) , PVP , Acrylates , Steareth-20 Itaconate Copolymer , Propylene Glycol , Hydrolyzed Silk , Panthenol , Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate , Triethanolamine , Diazolidinyl Urea , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Methylchloroisothiazolinone , Methylisothiazolinone , Fragrance , Hexyl Cinnamic Aldehyde , Benzyl Benzoate , Linalool , Gamma Methyl Ionone , Citronellol , Lilial , Hydroxy Citronellol , Geraniol , Eugenol , Blue 1 (CI 42090) , Red 33 (CI 17200)

It's been almost five years since I've used it, so I can't remember exactly how it reacted. I just remember that it was MUCH worse with it then without it.

There was a product that I found at Sally's that is a hard hold gel

Beyond the Zone - SPIKE - Beyond The Zone Spike It Spiking Gel

The ingredients are a little more natural and it's cheaper. I remember my hair liking it a little more. I don't really need a hard hold gel, so don't keep anything like this around.

WATER ,PVP ,GLYCERIN ,ACRYLATES/STEARETH-20 ITACONATE COPOLYME ,PROPYLENE GLYCOL ,TRIETHANOLAMINE ,PEG-40 HYDROGENATED CASTOR OIL ,PHENOXYETHANOL ,CAPRYLYL GLYCOL ,PANTHENOL ,POTASSIUM SORBATE ,FRAGRANCE ,HEXYLENE GLYCOL ,TETRASODIUM EDTA ,HYDROLYZED SOY PROTEIN ,LIMONENE

Don't know if you can find Beyond the Zone where you live. It may be worth a try.

Have they changed the ingredients? These were the ingredients at drugstore.com:

Rose Water, PVP, Acrylates/Steareth 20 Itaconate Copolymer, Propylene Glycol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Panthenol, Hydrolyzed Silk, Octylmethoxycinnamate, Parfum

My hair loves strong hold gels, though. I have been using LALSG, but I can't use it too many days in a row due to the fact that it dries my hair out a smidge and it does flake some.
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Kathymack, why does your hair hate it? I have the same properties and its the first styling product my hair seems to like. By the way, I want to thank you for teaching me about polyquats. I've used BRHG on its own after clarifying so I had absolutely no polyquats left in my hair and it looked great. Now I ran out of BRHG (I only had a sample and I have to wait until I have enough money before I can get a normal size version) and I applied CJ CQ again. While my hair was wet, I noticed the frizz that I didn't have with BRHG. Also, my hair feels gunky after a few days of using CQ, which is not the case with BRHG. So yes, I'm definitely eliminating polyquats!

Back to BRHG again.
I never used any products until I started lurking on nc.com. Of course, I had to try everything when I did start using them. For the most part, many products seem fine when you first use them. I learned a lot more about my hair. Started using more natural products that didn't have all of the chemicals and my hair looked better and better. Finally, I discovered that the polyquats in some of the more natural products were "staying" on my hair (I've been told that polyquats don't build up) and causing the frizz when wet.

Here are the ingredients for the BRHG:

Water (Aqua) , PVP , Acrylates , Steareth-20 Itaconate Copolymer , Propylene Glycol , Hydrolyzed Silk , Panthenol , Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate , Triethanolamine , Diazolidinyl Urea , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Methylchloroisothiazolinone , Methylisothiazolinone , Fragrance , Hexyl Cinnamic Aldehyde , Benzyl Benzoate , Linalool , Gamma Methyl Ionone , Citronellol , Lilial , Hydroxy Citronellol , Geraniol , Eugenol , Blue 1 (CI 42090) , Red 33 (CI 17200)

It's been almost five years since I've used it, so I can't remember exactly how it reacted. I just remember that it was MUCH worse with it then without it.

There was a product that I found at Sally's that is a hard hold gel

Beyond the Zone - SPIKE - Beyond The Zone Spike It Spiking Gel

The ingredients are a little more natural and it's cheaper. I remember my hair liking it a little more. I don't really need a hard hold gel, so don't keep anything like this around.

WATER ,PVP ,GLYCERIN ,ACRYLATES/STEARETH-20 ITACONATE COPOLYME ,PROPYLENE GLYCOL ,TRIETHANOLAMINE ,PEG-40 HYDROGENATED CASTOR OIL ,PHENOXYETHANOL ,CAPRYLYL GLYCOL ,PANTHENOL ,POTASSIUM SORBATE ,FRAGRANCE ,HEXYLENE GLYCOL ,TETRASODIUM EDTA ,HYDROLYZED SOY PROTEIN ,LIMONENE

Don't know if you can find Beyond the Zone where you live. It may be worth a try.

Have they changed the ingredients? These were the ingredients at drugstore.com:

Rose Water, PVP, Acrylates/Steareth 20 Itaconate Copolymer, Propylene Glycol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Panthenol, Hydrolyzed Silk, Octylmethoxycinnamate, Parfum

My hair loves strong hold gels, though. I have been using LALSG, but I can't use it too many days in a row due to the fact that it dries my hair out a smidge and it does flake some.
I posted ingredients from nc.com product reviews.
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I do know I saw a discussion somewhere about a new formula but I thought only the rose water was removed.
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I do know I saw a discussion somewhere about a new formula but I thought only the rose water was removed.
Guess I'll just have to look at the bottle when it gets here.

Any other comments on this gel?
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I have six 34-oz bottles avail for sale if anyone is interested. $48 each, incl shipping. Possible volume discount if purchasing 3 or more--I'll have to look into the shipping cost before deciding.

Will also post this on the swap board.
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