Considering a cut...

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Advice please?? I'm considering chopping my hair into a layered bob or at least shoulder length cut. Right now it's about elbow length and layered.

I may get my hair cut as is (professionally, for once) just to see if that perks it back up and makes it easier to deal with first before making the big jump.

I just can't decide. My hair has always been long, and I like being able to pull it back - but then again I've never known anything else!

I am a dance teacher, and perform sometimes still, so being able to pull it back is nice.

I'm afraid of how my curls will react, though!! And if it would actually be faster and easier to style!

And I know my husband will probably weep.

Every time I get my nerve up to think about cutting it, I go to the salon and the stylist says "please tell me you aren't going to ask me to cut off all this beautiful hair". :/ Nice compliment and all that, but... It makes me lose my nerve! And makes me doubt myself!

Sometimes I think I need an "older look", others I think the opposite. So idk. Cutting is so permanent! It would take years to grow back!!

Maybe I'll start with the pro cut as is, and try a faux bob a few days and go from there.

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

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clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
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Well, I can tell you short hair is definitely easier to style, requires less products and a shorter dry time. For me, going short was easy as I've had shorter hair most of my life- it had only grown long the past 7 years or so out of sheer laziness. I never felt comfortable in long hair. But, since you've had long hair most of your life, it probably feels like you. I would suggest doing what you're thinking: get a good layered cut and maintain the length for now, and try to wear it in a faux bob and see if you like the length before you do the big chop. My attitude is, it's only hair and it will grow back. But then again, my hair grows really fast.

ETA: if you keep it at shoulder length, you'll still be able to pull it back. Mi e is too short to do that now. I do miss that, but there are always headbands and hats, lol.
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Last edited by chloe92us; 05-19-2013 at 10:12 AM.
If you go to just below shoulder length you still have all the options of pulling it back, and I think more styling options as many up dos don't work as well with really longer hair (at least I could never get them to).


I have never been attached to my hair though, so I may not be the best person to ask.

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I go back and forth between long (bsl) length and short bob length every few years. Both have their pluses and minuses. Short hair is a lot faster in the shower and quicker to air dry and is so easy most of the time. That being said, if it does have a day where it just doesn't cooperate and does look like crap you can't just pull it into a ponytail and call it a day, you have to just work with it. I like being able to put mine up in buns and braids etc when its long too. i always miss that when i have it short. Also it does take more trips to the salon to maintain a short hairstyle than a long one. With a short bob I have to go have it cut pretty regularly, with long hair I can go 6 months to a year with only touch ups/trims every once in a while.


I agree with your hairdresser that your hair is stunning, and I would love your curls. The length is beautiful, but if you haven't tried wearing it shorter before it could be a fun change and it does grow back, then you get to experience all the lengths in between (the good and the not so good)
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Maybe cut four to six inches off, then another four to six inches and so on? That way you can grow it back easily if it does not work out.
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I know exactly how you feel. I have had really short hair, really long hair, and every mid length layered bob out there over the past 20 years. I can't see a down side to the cut you are considering. You will still have all kinds of options and if you want it longer that's going to happen regardless. I'd try it! Listen to your gut. Sounds like to me you are ready to freshen things up a bit. Change is a risk but the willingness to try something new is a key to staying younger and keeping the creative juices going. (Sorry to get all deep here - y'all may need to get out some boots and a shovel).

My former hair stylist felt she could cut hair to flatter bone structure, which I didn't doubt as she was very good. I really wanted longer hair after years of wearing a mid length bob. But after all her hints that I needed to "accentuate my bone structure" I eventually caved, got short layers all over and hated it. I knew what I wanted then and I bet you know now. I totally respect a good hair stylist and the expertise they have, but it's your hair. If you are ready for a cut you should do it.
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DT = Coconut oil (love)

Last edited by Weathercurl; 05-19-2013 at 07:55 PM.
I had long hair for ten yrs and cut 7" off it almost 2 yrs ago. I loved it at first, but I miss my length now. My hair grows very slowly so keep your growing speed in mind before making a drastic change.

If all you've known is long hair, cutting it will likely be very liberating. It was for me - Id gone thru a bad breakup and for me it was like starting a new life. Just be aware that it may take a while to grow back & be sure that's what you want.

I don't suggest shoulder length because that is hard on your ends - they're always rubbing on your shirt, coat, whatever. It's hard to get past that length & for me at least, it feels awkward and very "in between" - like it has no real style. Im finally getting past that length & it has taken forever! But it does look good on some people - I don't think it does on me & I'm glad to be getting past it.

There are pros and cons to each - a cute angled bob has a definite style factor, long hair is easy to put up when it's not behaving. I for one, do not think short hair is easier. it took me just as long to style it and I had to do it daily because there was no option to just say "eff it" and put it up. if you're having a bad hair day you can't hide it. With long hair you can do 2nd day hair in a bun or whatever. With short hair, your "2nd day" option is re-style, if you don't wake up with pretty hair.

Im all for taking chances & making fun changes if you're bored, not trying to scare you out of it :-) Just weigh your options & possibilities first. Especially if you consider your hair a real part of your identity.
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Gels: SCC spray gel

I have always had long hair as well. Hairdressers tell me the same thing, though they don't have too.

Right now, my hair is shorter than it has ever been (can you believe it was much longer and just as dense and voluminous?!). I feel really comfortable with this length. It's still long and I feel that long hair is something that belongs to me. I love that I have so many options, like pulling back part of it, putting it up in a ponytail, putting it in a bun, braiding it (I happen to love french braids during the summer) and so on. I prefer just wearing it down because I feel prettiest that way.

I think you should ask yourself if your happy with your current length. What do you like about it? What are the downsides? For me, the only thing that I really don't like is that my back and neck get so warm and sweaty during summer, but even that's not a huge problem with all the possibilities (hence the french braid love during summer).

For me, my long hair makes me happy. It looks really good (even though I need a haircut to get some layers again) and it's part of who I am. However, you might feel differently. You should think about what YOU want and WHY. I think your hair looks gorgeous, but if you feel that it's time to do something entirely different, then you should do so. Just make sure that you know why you want it so chances that you'll regret it are smaller.

Good luck, Jas!
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Thanks for all the words of wisdom, curlies!

I think what I'll do is pay for a good cut (rather than do it myself for once) and try a faux bob a few times and see how that goes. Maybe that will give me a clearer picture of whether I'm ready or not!

Thanks!!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
I have been back and forth as short-ish and long as well. My hair seems to take a long time to get past BSL so I don't know why I always chop it back after I finally get there. I think I just get bored, and I guess it wasn't as healthy as it is now so that was another reason. I imagine it's growing a lot faster now so that's good.

Anyway, I have tried a few shoulder length cuts and even one that was above the shoulders and never really loved any of them. I love them on other people, but I think I look better with longer hair. I also am SUPER envious of women with long gorgeous thick hair which is why I am forever trying to grow it back out lol. There was a time a couple years ago when my hair was about to my butt and though it wasn't very healthy and I wasn't letting my natural hair do it's thing I still really loved the length and what it looked like when I took the time to curl it (though as you can probably guess with my fine hair it never stayed lol) Now I can't wait for a similar length with my natural curls ... though they may be more waves by the time they are that length from the weight. It can be a hassle some days to have long hair, but like you said I just think it's me and I like the options with long hair.

For some reason I cut about 14-15 inches off my long hair that fall and regretted it immediately. It wasn't a very good cut for starters, but I have been growing it since then and am only to about BSL with only one or two trims in that time.

I don't know what your cut is now, but you could also try adding in a few shorter layers around your face maybe. When done right I like that look on people with curls. And if you do decide to go for a cut that's fine... it can take time but it does grow back.
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BSL - going for mid back to waist

HG: currently
just washing with a low poo that contains protein (Alba Naturals Coconut) and using Suave Naturals Coconut as both a RO and LI. No stylers right now, but this gives me pretty good curl, definition, low-ish frizz, and it feels and looks good. Also an occasional PT (liking the Palmer's Coconut Oil Formula which has cones) seems to be key for me.

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dug up a couple images to show you... .it doesn't fully apply since my hair was not curly, and I did not end up liking the stylist so likely a good stylist could do better, but as you can see I just didn't look like me with short hair anymore. I am not saying you shouldn't cut your hair if you want, just thought I would share my experience. I went in with a couple pictures of the cut I wanted and it looked so cute on them, but I guess it just doesn't work for everyone. I also don't like how she curled it that day...
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My Hair:
2c
Fine, low porosity, med/high density
BSL - going for mid back to waist

HG: currently
just washing with a low poo that contains protein (Alba Naturals Coconut) and using Suave Naturals Coconut as both a RO and LI. No stylers right now, but this gives me pretty good curl, definition, low-ish frizz, and it feels and looks good. Also an occasional PT (liking the Palmer's Coconut Oil Formula which has cones) seems to be key for me.

Modified CG since February 2013

Count me in the cut camp! I think everyone should experience the joys of having short hair at least once in their lifetime. I admit I really find myself pining sometimes. . . It dries so fast. I only needed a modicum of product. When I had shorter hair it would curl on its own even without product and it wouldn't frizz. (In retrospect it's probably because the hair was newer/healthier and there was less rubbing against it.) But I've never experienced healthy long curly hair before so now that I know how to stop my hair from looking like a poofball I want it long(er). Some things to be mindful of: shrinkage. Start long, I meant slow. You don't know how your hair is gonna spring up. Secondly, be sure to frame the face. They have to get the layers right to prevent triangle head. Thirdly, it might be trickier to get second day hair because you can't pineapple it or throw it up behind you. However, it also might be really easy to fix in the morning so that won't matter. Lastly, hair grows back. So don't stress.
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Well, here are thoughts from another "country". I used to have a bob. Then I got divorced. Most women cut their hair when they get divorced: I started to grow mine. I was the best thing I ever did for myself. I think my long curls take years off my appearance; I look at other women my age with short hair and I think they look matronly. If you must cut it, keep it longish. I am certain my hair is way shorter than yours, Jas, and probably it wont grow as long as yours anyway. Its true you can always grow it again but look how long it takes! cut of some length if you must and see how you feel. Dont do drastic.
I look at other women my age with short hair and I think they look matronly.
Originally Posted by Myrna
This is what makes me paranoid about cutting my hair short. I had SHORT SHORT (like an inch or two long) hair all through my early 20s and loved it. In my late twenties i started growing it long and now it has been below my collar bones at the shortest and down to my waist at the longest over the last 5 years.

I kinda want o cut it up in a short a-line, but at 32 i'm worried i'll look like a fuddy-duddy. I think it's just all about the type of short cut you do. There are soccer mom short cuts and there are cool chick short cuts.

(no offense to moms who have bad haircuts) LOL
I say go for it. I'm glad I took the plunge with my own hair, just for the sake of seeing what it looked like. It will always grow back.

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jas -- i think your idea of getting a professional cut with layers is a great place to start. maybe take just an inch or two off the length.
then, as you said, try a faux bob to see how it looks on your face.

gorgeous hair is great to have, but if you are tired of it, or if you feel you might look better a different way, then you should do it. hair is not an isolated thing, it accessorizes our face.

btw, depending on how short you go, if you can't pull it back you can wear a headband and that can look very good -- your hair framing your face and your curls popping over the headband. i actually get compliments even when wearing a headband. so, as long as there are clips and headbands, there are always ways to wear your hair when it's not having a good day.

post photos of whatever you decide to do!
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I cut 5/6 inches off a few months ago. My hair always goes I to shock after a cut so it took 1/2 weeks to recover - so for that time I was thinking 'God! What have I done!' But am really glad now... Feels so much better and cud are bouncy
Thanks for all the insight, everyone!!!
Btw... Here's my current cut

http://m.naturallycurly.com/curltalk...ad.php?t=47609

It's post 1,592. (I wanted to re-post the last pic here, but I can't figure out how. Lol!)

I am going to do a swimmers clarifying treatment, a good PT/DT, and then probably hit a salon in the near future. I'll wear a faux bob a couple of times of I'm still itching for change and see what I think!
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
This should work:



Here's the link to the specific post: Post your before & After CG pics

(Haha I'm sorry, I'm a computer geek sometimes)

Jas, I love your hair! This looks pretty much like my hair on a good day. I think the length is perfect. Your hair is much shorter in the first pic and I like it better when it's slightly longer, it suits you.

When you try the faux bob, will you show us a picture? Even though I think long hair looks great, I'm curious to see what a bob would do.
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I'm now just sick with envy and Jas' hair.

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