Specific questions about UFDCM

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Thanks for posting that. I've had an interesting couple of hair days...on Thursday I used my trusty mudd topped with biotera (my 1st use). Ended up with greasy looking hair that felt weird. Had to do 2nd day hair yesterday due to a time constrai t- it was greasy and limp. Today when I showered, my hair felt almost like it had a greasy plastic coating on it. I washed with my CHS treatment poo which is loaded w/ sulfates but somehow still gentle. Still felt weird, so I washed it again and then did a PT & DT. okay, whatever it was is now gone.

I used my satin roots LI with a few drops of jojoba, and used the BS purée on top, and topped with the GVP LSG. Plopped, diffused as normal. I had zero crunch, and good curls. I can tell though it won't last through the day but my hair FEELS incredible! I like the smell of the purée surprisingly. Next time, I will use more than I did today to see if that increases the hold. I normally use the GVP LSG with my Mudd, and used the same amount I normally do. The softer hold is definitely due to the purée so I'll have to experiment with the amounts. I use copious amounts of Mudd, but am always cautious with other products and tend to use too little the first time. Overall, I think it's good and it seems to be better so far than the coil jam for me.
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
Here are the ingredients I found on drugstore.com for the Biotera Styling Gel:

Water (Aqua), Polyquaternium 4, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Extract (Nettle), Arnica Montana (Montana Flower) Extract, PPG 5 Ceteth 20, Cetrimonium Chloride, Glycerin, Citric Acid, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Propylene Glycol, Tetrasodium EDTA, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, DMDM Hydantoin, Alpha Isomethyl Ionone, Coumarin, Limonene, Linalool, Fragrance

Polyquat 4 as the second ingredient might be the reason you had problems removing it.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
That polyquat is all I can think too, although I've never any problem with them before.
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
That polyquat is all I can think too, although I've never any problem with them before.
Originally Posted by chloe92us
It took me a long time to figure out that my hair didn't care for polyquats. I always wondered why some products gave me more surface frizz. It wasn't terrible, it was just there. (I always expect a little frizz, after all, it is curly hair.)

Stopped using products that have polyquats and my hair is MUCH better. Sometimes, you don't realize you have an issue until you stop using certain ingredients. Your hair looks good now. Sometimes, it can just look better.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
As promised, I'm back with a review of UFDCM, I have only used it once so far, and will update once I have more experience with it, but so far I LOVE IT! After finding my HG, okra gel, nothing seems to be able to compete with it and I'm constantly experimenting with things to perform like it does.

The things I look for in my HG products are: curl formation, ease of use, frizz control, and hold.

First of all, this stuff is thick, but comes with a pump which is a big plus, so very easy to apply. I don't like digging out product from a tub. It does smell like lemon pledge and I liked it; the smell fades as it dries.

The minute I raked this into my hair, the clumps literally started forming and bonding together, just like okra gel. I used three pumps total, and I felt like it was too much: it was like glue! So I super soaked to thin it out a little. I topped with a dime sized blob of LAL mega gel for addl hold.

Then I plopped for 10, and diffused....and diffused....and diffused. This stuff took forever to dry! When I could tell it was taking much longer than usual, I switched the dryer to cool (which is more like a light warm). It took a good 20 mins, when normally it only takes 10.

I swear, my hair was the curliest it's ever been after I was done! I couldn't stop touching it! And, there was NO crunch to scrunch. It was amazingly soft! It's now 3pm, and the dew point today is 76- I have very little frizz. The curls are still intact, and its still amazingly soft!

So, this so far meets all my criteria for HG status! My okra gel finally has a competitor!
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
I thought you would love it!
It sounds like you did use a lot. My hair is tailbone length (?) and I think I use 2-3 pumps. It always gives me great hair. I got my daughter hooked on it now so last time I ordered two bottles at a time, which saved me a few $.
I wished aveyou.com carried it.
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3a (normal-porosity/elasticity/density)
Cleanse: CHS TS+oil, poo bars, Sevi pumpkin poo, Co-wash
LI/RO:MD RCLI, GDLI, Andalou naturals -GVPCB, DB pumpkin, Tresemmé Naturals
Stylers: LALSG, Volumax styling, CHS CK, BRHG, KCCC, Gel-les'C, JC Spiralicious, AOMM, CJPP, SSCEJ

$5 off 1st order under $40, $10 off over $40...at iherb use code KEY066
As promised, I'm back with a review of UFDCM, I have only used it once so far, and will update once I have more experience with it, but so far I LOVE IT! After finding my HG, okra gel, nothing seems to be able to compete with it and I'm constantly experimenting with things to perform like it does.

The things I look for in my HG products are: curl formation, ease of use, frizz control, and hold.

First of all, this stuff is thick, but comes with a pump which is a big plus, so very easy to apply. I don't like digging out product from a tub. It does smell like lemon pledge and I liked it; the smell fades as it dries.

The minute I raked this into my hair, the clumps literally started forming and bonding together, just like okra gel. I used three pumps total, and I felt like it was too much: it was like glue! So I super soaked to thin it out a little. I topped with a dime sized blob of LAL mega gel for addl hold.

Then I plopped for 10, and diffused....and diffused....and diffused. This stuff took forever to dry! When I could tell it was taking much longer than usual, I switched the dryer to cool (which is more like a light warm). It took a good 20 mins, when normally it only takes 10.

I swear, my hair was the curliest it's ever been after I was done! I couldn't stop touching it! And, there was NO crunch to scrunch. It was amazingly soft! It's now 3pm, and the dew point today is 76- I have very little frizz. The curls are still intact, and its still amazingly soft!

So, this so far meets all my criteria for HG status! My okra gel finally has a competitor!
Originally Posted by chloe92us
Question for you...where do you find okra gel? Or is it something that you make?
3B, fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity

Starting CG over beginning June 2013

Co-Wash: Treseme Naturals
Cleanse: Waiting on DB and CJDF
Rinse out: Biolage CB, Yes to Carrots, Giovanni 50:50
LI: Treseme Naturals, Yes to Carrots
Stylers: KCCC
PT: IAgirl's PT

No: Polyquats, BTMS in leave-ins/stylers
Yes: Protein, ACV, Oils
Wow, UFDCM sounds perfect and I loved your curls in the other topic today! I'm looking into where I can get it now.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

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Question for you...where do you find okra gel? Or is it something that you make?
Originally Posted by .Musical.Junkie.
I purchased mine from Botticelli Botanicals on etsy. But I also made my first batch the other night!
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
bumping this thread. after oogling this for months, i finally broke down and ordered it -- hated to pay that shipping price!
first day it came altho my hair was long dry, i had to try it out on dry hair. wow!! the curls formed as i was scrunching it in.
next day i just used a light leave in, and then added a little ufdcm, then more after it dried. even better!

just wondering as i continue to experiment with it, do any of you use a leave in? heavy or light?

while cj afg is my hg for mid dews, i wanted something for low dews and very high dews. i hope this works as well in low dews.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
Rbb- this stuff is amazing! I've been using it now for a few months and get consistently good results from it. Where it shines, for me, is on dry hair although I use it on wet hair too. After I SOTC, or to refresh end of day or 2nd day, I just smooth this on, and voila! Clumps are back! I've read you like CJ PP on dry hair, but I think this is even better.

I rarely use a LI during the summer, but when I do I use CJ BLI or curl fix, and this plays well with or without a LI. I feel it is moisturizing on its own though.

There are so many uses for this product, I am just smitten with it!
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
3rd day using ufdcm, love it! i only wish i could buy it on aveyou.com, or even curlmart.
anyone know how you find out about their sales?
i tried to see if i could sign up for emails from them, didn't seem to be available. i see they have a facebook page, but i don't use facebook.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
rbb, I just went and liked their Facebook page. Next time they post a sale, I will let you know! Even though I can get UFDCM on the ground, it would be nice to be able to get it on sale.
Sulfate/non-water-soluble silicone free since 8/16/10
Northern VA
Med-coarse, normal porosity, low elasticity
Dye-free since 11/2010

Did you see on their website they have some locations that sell their stuff locally, depending on where you are. I have a bottle of this that I haven't tried yet. Sounds like I really need to!

On their homepage, lower right corner -- there's a spot to sign up for newsletters.
Location: Texas
Type: 3b/3c (i), below shoulder length.
CO wash: A-O GPB LYY, Salon Care Honey Almond, Devacurl OC, Acure Argan Stem Cell+Argan Oil, Mill Creek Botanicals Keratin Repair
Leave-ins: BWC, KCKT, cno overnight
Styling: BRHG, MGA Sculpting Gel, A-O Mandarin Magic Gel, LOTD AVG, LALSG
DT: Kiehl's Olive Fruit Oil Deeply Repairative Hair Pak, Curl Junkie Deep Fix, Briogeo Don't Despair Repair!
rustina -- thanks!

spiralli -- i did see it. nothing anywhere in ny. i even called a few local beauty supply stores on the off chance they did have it.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine

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