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chloe92us 05-24-2013 08:35 PM

Specific questions about UFDCM
 
I'm so curious about the UFDCM- almost purchased it this week. I like the fact that it's glycerin free. I've read most of the threads about it, but have some questions:

I'm curious about the texture; runny? Thick?

And the smell? I'm very picky and herbal type smells are a huge turn off for me (as in anything by Aubrey organics) So...please describe the scent!

Would you consider this a gel for hold, or more of an enhancer?

Thanks!

Corrina777 05-24-2013 11:09 PM

I got a sample of this from my hair twin and I liked it enough that it's on my wish list, but haven't actually purchased yet. I think all the way around, the best comparison is to SS CEJ. The scent isn't as strong and I believe was slightly lemon-y. Consistency was identical and I used it the same way- as a curl enhancer.

kathymack 05-25-2013 05:31 AM

When UFD CM first came out, it was touted as a KCCC clone. It's been an HG for me since I first used it--not as thick as KCCC, but not runny, either. (KCCC is an on again/off again product for me.) I agree with the lemon smell. It's light, not pure lemon, more like lemon Pledge. It fades quickly.

Since starting to lurk on nc.com, my curl pattern has become stronger and really doesn't require much hold. It's a natural, jelly product--doesn't have all of the chemicals. Provides moisture, so curl enhancing.

chloe92us 05-25-2013 06:20 AM

Thanks! The other one I want to try is botanical spirits purée....can you answer the same ? About that one?

kathymack 05-25-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chloe92us (Post 2173833)
Thanks! The other one I want to try is botanical spirits purée....can you answer the same ? About that one?

I just used that one today! So shouldn't have to go smell it, as I did with the UFD CM. It's more "herby," but not bad. Dissipates quickly. When I first used it, I got the tightest curls--ever. But they felt odd. Now that I've learned more, I thought it might be some type of sugar. If you've used the SM Souffle, that feeling. She's changed the formula and that odd feeling is gone. It's better in higher dewpoints, the Stretch Gelee in lower dewpoints.

I made the mistake of giving the SM Souffle one more chance as a middle product. I added some Sucragel AOF and Sea Kelp Biofermant--to it (two of my favorite ingredients in FSG and okra gel.) I'm afraid my hair might get that feeling when it dries.

Don't know if that answers your question.

chloe92us 05-25-2013 11:06 AM

I ordered the UFDCM- I can handle lemony....the purée is probably next!

chloe92us 05-25-2013 12:01 PM

Well, I guess I was feeling spendy today- I ordered them both, lol!

asianrunner 05-25-2013 12:41 PM

I really like UFD CM! It's not runny at all, but not thick like Ecostyler. A little thinner than KCCC.

It's not sweet smelling, a little herb-y but nothing like AO products. Those made me want to gag!

For me, I have very lazy, very little natural wave. It is a really good curl enhancer that has a little hold. Works best for me in low dews while KCCC is much better for me in high dews!

Rednaturalcurls 05-29-2013 02:25 PM

I'm drawing a blank. What is UFD CM?

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chloe92us 05-29-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rednaturalcurls (Post 2174944)
I'm drawing a blank. What is UFD CM?

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Rednaturalcurls 05-29-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chloe92us (Post 2174951)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rednaturalcurls (Post 2174944)
I'm drawing a blank. What is UFD CM?

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Thank you! I knew I saw it before but just couldn't remember what it was. Long day....

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Samanthascurlz 05-29-2013 02:52 PM

When you get UFD- CM pleasee write a review, I really want to try UFD.

chloe92us 05-29-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz (Post 2174966)
When you get UFD- CM pleasee write a review, I really want to try UFD.

Will do! It shipped today!

gagirl09 05-29-2013 03:59 PM

I love UFDCM! I like that it dried really fast and has decent ingredients and for the price, you get a nice amount. To the texture....I hate to be gross but idk why but I think of snot. Probably because it can stretch out as it pulls away from the pump.

chloe92us 05-31-2013 02:33 PM

Darn it, I received my Botanical Spirits purée today and I didn't realize it was a jelly/ pudding. I guess I was expecting it to be more liquidy like SS CEJ or okra gel (I really like the gooey stuff).

I hope this one is better for me than coil jam, which is the same consistency... Unless I'm not using coil jam correctly, it seems to give my hair almost a dull finish and flakes on me.

Any other enhances that are gooey?

I think I'll have to continue experimenting with jellies- they just seem hit or miss for me. I wish I loved the CK CJ because of all my products, I heart the smell the most.

I'll report back once I actually use it.

kathymack 05-31-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chloe92us (Post 2175633)
Darn it, I received my Botanical Spirits purée today and I didn't realize it was a jelly/ pudding. I guess I was expecting it to be more liquidy like SS CEJ or okra gel (I really like the gooey stuff).

I hope this one is better for me than coil jam, which is the same consistency... Unless I'm not using coil jam correctly, it seems to give my hair almost a dull finish and flakes on me.

Any other enhances that are gooey?

I think I'll have to continue experimenting with jellies- they just seem hit or miss for me. I wish I loved the CK CJ because of all my products, I heart the smell the most.

I'll report back once I actually use it.

Had to go up and look at my new ones. I noticed it came in a jar with a pump, instead of a bottle with a pump. Still have most of that bottle, so didn't think to try it. The product is thicker then the prior bottles. Went to the website and there is nothing about a new formula, so I expect it to be the same, just thicker. I'll try to remember to compare the ingredients when I go upstairs, again.

Something you have to remember. A lot of these products are made in someone's kitchen and not manufactured. They are similar a lot of the time, but might be a little different. If you ordered another batch of Mudd from BB, it might not be identical to your first batch.

Since I know how much you love okra gel, I relate a similar experience. Was close to the Indian grocery, so picked up some fresh okra last weekend. Made a new batch of okra gel because I was down to my last 8 ounces. Last time, I used guar gum as a thickener--the hydroethylcellulose was lumpy the time before that. I decided to make a slurry out of the hydroethylcellulose, because my hair really likes it. (also used some gelatin) It was almost room temperature and really hadn't thickened enough. So, I made a slurry out of some guar gum and added 1/2 of what I used in my previous batch. Looked about right when I finished. All I can say is that this stuff is really thick. I was worried because I ended up with 10 cups! This stuff is GREAT. I used it yesterday (we're in the middle of a heat wave) and my hair looked really good. Looked at it before my shower this morning (after the health club) and it wasn't bad. I rarely, if ever, do second day hair. But thicker was even better with the okra gel! So, maybe it will be great with the Puree.

chloe92us 05-31-2013 05:57 PM

Kathy- my purée came in a tub so I have to scoop (another pet peeve!)....I thought it would be in a bottle.

I'm so glad you love the okra too- I used it yesterday with biotera gel on top and didnt like the result (first time using biotera, and so far not impressed). My only chance of 2nd day hair is after an okra day. I'm desperately trying to find other things I can rotate that are "like" it in consistency and results. So far, I haven't found anything as good. Hoping the UFDCM will be a contender.

kathymack 05-31-2013 06:16 PM

I'm allergic to anything Biotera, so stay away from it.

I just checked my old puree and my new puree--same ingredients, in the same order. You used to be able to buy different "strengths." That option is no longer available. On the front of my old bottle, it says soft hold gel. On the new jar (mine does have a pump, I wonder if it will work?), it says medium hold gel. Maybe I'll write the owner and see if she has anything to say about it.

chloe92us 05-31-2013 06:23 PM

I bought the 8 oz and it's in a tub. I'm thinking you must have the 16 oz and it comes with a pump. Also, mine says "a soft hold moisturizing hair gel"...???

kathymack 06-01-2013 12:23 PM

I wrote Redgine Armand from Botanical Spirits and received this answer:

"Hi Kathy,
You may quote the explanation below

The newer one was formulated to work for all curl types. Yes with all the ingredients in the same order but with a slightly higher concentration for a medium hold. The final results will all depend on the amount used and curl type. As for the packaging; pump jars were based on the original packaging (to be discontinued). Newer packaging does not contain a pump. Which container/packaging a customer receive is totally by random. We hope that cleared up any confusions and thank you for your business."

Of course, I had to try the newer one in the jar with the pump. It's too thick to pump. I used the li--the Shea Soft Styling Creme. Took it a LONG time to dry and even long to absorb. My hair looks and feels good. Right now, the dewpoint is 64.


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