Jessicurl Rockin' Ringlets + Confident Coils

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I've made my own FSG and so far I like it. I use it alone and since I already like a very simple recipe of just FSG and some honey, I'm thinking I could definitely perfect this product.

However, it would be nice to have another product at hand for when I run out of FSG and don't have time to make a new batch. I know that Jessicurl Rocking' Ringlets Styling Potion has FSG as a core ingredient, so I'm very interest in that. I could use some extra hold though and according to the Jessicurl website, Confident Coils should provide that.

I have low porosity, high density, fine hair. It's weighed down easily. No cones and no polyquats (I already checked and I know JRR and JCC don't have them). For those who used one or both of these products:

- How well does it define your curls?
- Does it provide hold?
- What do you like about the product?
- Would you recommend it? Why (not)?

I'm still thinking about getting KCCC as well, so I'd also like to hear - if you happen to have experience with KCCC - what you would recommend, either one or both of the Jessicurl products or KCCC (or all!).
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Looking for a new one
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC
Experimenting with: Inecto Pure Coconut Conditioner

Beauty Is Not a Number
I'm 2a-2b. I really like the combo though I probably need a drop of something like BRHG on top for super hold. That said, some of my best days have been the RR/CC combo (with diffuser). They do have Mag sulfate, and some people are sensitive to that or find it too drying. I do like them. That said, my HG combo is appearing to be Spiral Solutions products. The CEJ is not FSG based but I find if I am not using Jessica, I'm using SS. It's just awesome (and reasonable in price IMO for quality product - Curlmart has no shipping this weekend so its a good weekend to try something new).

I still haven't figured out how to use KCCC.
I've made my own FSG and so far I like it. I use it alone and since I already like a very simple recipe of just FSG and some honey, I'm thinking I could definitely perfect this product.

However, it would be nice to have another product at hand for when I run out of FSG and don't have time to make a new batch. I know that Jessicurl Rocking' Ringlets Styling Potion has FSG as a core ingredient, so I'm very interest in that. I could use some extra hold though and according to the Jessicurl website, Confident Coils should provide that.

I have low porosity, high density, fine hair. It's weighed down easily. No cones and no polyquats (I already checked and I know JRR and JCC don't have them). For those who used one or both of these products:

- How well does it define your curls?
- Does it provide hold?
- What do you like about the product?
- Would you recommend it? Why (not)?

I'm still thinking about getting KCCC as well, so I'd also like to hear - if you happen to have experience with KCCC - what you would recommend, either one or both of the Jessicurl products or KCCC (or all!).
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
Your hair seems to be a lot like mind, only I'm high porosity. I am a huge fan of RR personally, and the only reason I'm not using it right now is because my ends are quite damaged and gel of any sort makes them look much worse. Hold and definition depend on how much you use, in my experience. I actually don't like a ton of hold and super defined waves, so I use just maybe 2 quarter sized dollops. If you use more, you can definitely get more hold and definition. I like it precisely because I can play around with the amount of hold and definition I get. The hold never gets up to biosilk or LALSG level, but I wouldn't want that anyway. It's also pretty curl enhancing, and after I SOTC my hair is soft and silky, and does not feel loaded with product. KCCC is a bit thicker and stronger hold. It also goes very crunchy on me and weighs my hair down. As for CC, I've never really understood what it's supposed to do, it's never really done anything for me. I didn't notice any extra hold, maybe just a little more clumping.
Just starting CG! 5-13

2A, fine, dense, high porosity, highlighted

low-poo: Leonor Greyl bain vitalisant b*
co-wash: CJ smoothing*
RO: ^, SS Caitlin's*
DT: CJ rehab
LI: CJ rehab
stylers: CJ CCCC*
oils: coconut


*experimenting
HG

loves: aloe, oils, esp. coconut
hates: acv, baking soda
on the fence about polyquats

Last edited by mermaidwaves; 05-26-2013 at 10:21 AM.
Chupie, thanks for the advice! Jessicurl is pretty easy to get hold of in the Netherlands. However, Curlmart doesn't ship to the Netherlands and I'm not sure about the availability of Spiral Solutions, so I'll definitely check that! What do you prefer, Jessicurl or Spiral Solutions? And why, of course

Mermaidwaves, if I understand your reply correctly, you like Rockin' Ringlets and prefer it over KCCC. Confident Coils didn't work for you. Although I love quite some hold, and BRHG worked great for me, it gave my dry ends (I applied it mostly to my ends) so it's a "no" for me. I rather have a product with less hold but natural and healthy looking hair, because my curls will look much better that way than with the extra hold. Thanks for you elaborate reply, it's very useful
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F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Looking for a new one
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC
Experimenting with: Inecto Pure Coconut Conditioner

Beauty Is Not a Number
I like them both pretty well. The SS is more moisturizing and better in the high dew points. So it's mostly a weather difference. But SS seems to work really well in all weather. Sorry about Curlmart though that's a shame because the SS is a small operation and her site ****s down while she restocks. So Curlmart is kind of the only viable solution part if the time.
I'd say CC is for clumping and defining.
I never used the RR, but I did use the lighter version Gelebration spray and had it was love/hate for me. Couldn't use it with dewpoints 50℉
Then it took my hair forever to dry and it made my hair look wet.
The GS made my hair spiral (like plain FSG does as well) very beautifully. But now I know how to let my hair curl better with more volume I prefer that.
Together with the CC it worked best when I used the CC first or not at all together.

The CC worked better on my hair and I use a little blob on wet hair just out of the shower to seal and get the curls going. Definition. But the CC is best with lower and higher dewpoints! (when you need to seal)

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2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl

Last edited by rapunzel4ever; 05-27-2013 at 11:24 PM.
Thanks rapunzel! Even though you prefer better methods now, would you recommend them?
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Looking for a new one
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC
Experimenting with: Inecto Pure Coconut Conditioner

Beauty Is Not a Number
The CC definitely and the GS and RR only if you like FSG and/or products with mag.sulfate on your hair.

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2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl
I definitely like FSG. I saw that GS/RR are based on FSG, so that's why I consider them. I have no idea whether my hair likes mag. sulfate because I've never used it before.

Do you have a preference for GS or RR? I know they have the same ingredients, but there seems to be a difference when it comes to application.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Looking for a new one
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC
Experimenting with: Inecto Pure Coconut Conditioner

Beauty Is Not a Number
I definitely like FSG. I saw that GS/RR are based on FSG, so that's why I consider them. I have no idea whether my hair likes mag. sulfate because I've never used it before.

Do you have a preference for GS or RR? I know they have the same ingredients, but there seems to be a difference when it comes to application.
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
I haven't tried RR, only GS. You have thicker hair than me (more of it, I think), so you could check out what others say about their preference at the product reviews on NC.
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2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl
I checked, but most topics are really out-dated. So far sprays have never worked for me, so I'm leaning more towards RR than GS.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Looking for a new one
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC
Experimenting with: Inecto Pure Coconut Conditioner

Beauty Is Not a Number
I'm bumping my own thread because I'm still not entirely sure what to do. I'm especially in doubt again after Myrna's thread.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Looking for a new one
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC
Experimenting with: Inecto Pure Coconut Conditioner

Beauty Is Not a Number
Why don't you just buy the 2 oz samples and try it. I don't know any other way you can feel sure.
The 2 oz samples are not available in the Netherlands and if I'm going to buy from Amazon, I'd better make it a slightly bigger order (thinking about getting JCRR and JCCC + CJ Repair Me). I'll probably have to get it there anyway because it's all sold out here AND I discovered it's even cheaper. How weird is that, ordering internationally but having to pay less?
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Looking for a new one
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC
Experimenting with: Inecto Pure Coconut Conditioner

Beauty Is Not a Number
The 2 oz samples are not available in the Netherlands and if I'm going to buy from Amazon, I'd better make it a slightly bigger order (thinking about getting JCRR and JCCC + CJ Repair Me). I'll probably have to get it there anyway because it's all sold out here AND I discovered it's even cheaper. How weird is that, ordering internationally but having to pay less?
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
Doesn't aveyou.com ship internationally? They carry both the brands you mentioned and they always have a discount code.
3a (normal-porosity/elasticity/density)
Cleanse: CHS TS+oil, poo bars, Sevi pumpkin poo, Co-wash
LI/RO:MD RCLI, GDLI-GVPCB, DB pumpkin, Tresemmé Naturals
Stylers: LALSG, Volumax styling, CHS CK, BRHG, KCCC, Gel-les'C, JC Spiralicious, AOMM, FSG, SSCEJ

$5 off 1st order under $40, $10 off over $40...at iherb use code KEY066
The 2 oz samples are not available in the Netherlands and if I'm going to buy from Amazon, I'd better make it a slightly bigger order (thinking about getting JCRR and JCCC + CJ Repair Me). I'll probably have to get it there anyway because it's all sold out here AND I discovered it's even cheaper. How weird is that, ordering internationally but having to pay less?
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
Doesn't aveyou.com ship internationally? They carry both the brands you mentioned and they always have a discount code.
Originally Posted by Curlsnswirls
I just checked and they do, but shipping rates are $35. I think Amazon is the cheapest option with just $6.99 per shipment. I'm just a bit confused because they also have a "per item" rate. Do you happen to know more about this? I've only ordered books on Amazon before so I have no idea about hair products.

If I'd order these items in the Netherlands, I'd have to pay €72 (including shipping) which is $93.50, whereas Amazon would cost me $65.89 (including shipping), so €50. What a difference!
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Looking for a new one
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC
Experimenting with: Inecto Pure Coconut Conditioner

Beauty Is Not a Number
The 2 oz samples are not available in the Netherlands and if I'm going to buy from Amazon, I'd better make it a slightly bigger order (thinking about getting JCRR and JCCC + CJ Repair Me). I'll probably have to get it there anyway because it's all sold out here AND I discovered it's even cheaper. How weird is that, ordering internationally but having to pay less?
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
Doesn't aveyou.com ship internationally? They carry both the brands you mentioned and they always have a discount code.
Originally Posted by Curlsnswirls
I just checked and they do, but shipping rates are $35. I think Amazon is the cheapest option with just $6.99 per shipment. I'm just a bit confused because they also have a "per item" rate. Do you happen to know more about this? I've only ordered books on Amazon before so I have no idea about hair products.

If I'd order these items in the Netherlands, I'd have to pay €72 (including shipping) which is $93.50, whereas Amazon would cost me $65.89 (including shipping), so €50. What a difference!
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
Wow, that's expensive! I'm not too familiar with amazon (only ordered from there once or twice). Hopefully you can find a good deal. I'm sorry I couldn't help you moe.
3a (normal-porosity/elasticity/density)
Cleanse: CHS TS+oil, poo bars, Sevi pumpkin poo, Co-wash
LI/RO:MD RCLI, GDLI-GVPCB, DB pumpkin, Tresemmé Naturals
Stylers: LALSG, Volumax styling, CHS CK, BRHG, KCCC, Gel-les'C, JC Spiralicious, AOMM, FSG, SSCEJ

$5 off 1st order under $40, $10 off over $40...at iherb use code KEY066
No problem Curlsnswirls! I still appreciate your suggestion, even though it didn't work out. Luckily there's no rush now that I make my own FSG and can do PTs with gelatine, so plenty of time to figure out what the best option will be
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Looking for a new one
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC
Experimenting with: Inecto Pure Coconut Conditioner

Beauty Is Not a Number
No problem Curlsnswirls! I still appreciate your suggestion, even though it didn't work out. Luckily there's no rush now that I make my own FSG and can do PTs with gelatine, so plenty of time to figure out what the best option will be
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
There have to be products in Europe that are like ours....why don't you focus on what's readily available to you? What about Boots? Is that available there? Or I think there's a UK curly forum which will have more info on what products are available on your side of the globe. Experimenting with US products sounds like a ridiculously expensive proposition!
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip

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