Hot or Cold Water?

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The other day, a curly girl (not on here) wrote about how heat is damaging. True. Then she said that anything heat related is bad- including hot water. So since I am low porosity, I had done my research that hot water is good for DT's, etc because the heat helps open the hair cuticle. But then her advice made me wonder, is hot water just as bad as using heat related products (blow dryer, flat iron, etc.)? I use hot water, for the info I have acquired said it is better for low-po's to get the conditioner in the hair. In reality, am I ruining my hair? Should I use cold water? What do you guys think?
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Somewhat different effects, high temperatures applied directly don't damage hair in quite the same way as hygral fatigue tho there is overlap. Most ingredients in conditioners don't penetrate the hair anyway, so it's pointless trying to raise the cuticle unless you are using the few that do.

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THE NATURAL HAVEN: Straightening Facts :How hot is too hot?
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Unless you're some sort of mutant/superhero, I don't think you're are capable of showering in water that reaches the same temperature as a flat iron or blow dryer.

It's why diffusing or sitting under a bonnet can be positive. When you sit under a bonnet heat isn't being directly applied and it more warm air opening your cuticle and not high heat destroying your hair.

For most people cooler water is less drying and leaves you with smoother hair. Personally I'm lazy, so I don't change the water temperature to rinse out my conditioner, but I think my low porosity hair can handle it.
I agree, there is no way your shower water is as hot as things like a flat iron.... and I like a HOT shower! When I am not freezing I do try to do a final cooler (I say cooler because I can't stand the cold water on my back which is unavoidable for someone who rinses upright) rinse to help close down the cuticle and tame frizz. I wouldn't say it's always super noticeable if I do or don't, but I like to think it does help a little.
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I actually arch my back rinsing my hair with cold water so that it drips straight down and not on my back! I don't recommend everyone try this, it's pretty awkward. The cold rinses help though. To the OP, if you're worried about some damage just use warm water to wash and cold for the final rinse.
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I take hot showers but I do my final conditioner rinse upside down with cool water.
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Cool water helps clump curls and reduces frizz IMO
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Do you only do a cold water rinse on the hair itself? On the scalp as well i asume? Or is this not necessary?

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Somewhat different effects, high temperatures applied directly don't damage hair in quite the same way as hygral fatigue tho there is overlap. Most ingredients in conditioners don't penetrate the hair anyway, so it's pointless trying to raise the cuticle unless you are using the few that do.

Heat Styling Damage
THE NATURAL HAVEN: Straightening Facts :How hot is too hot?
http://www.hairfree.bz/Article.pdf
P&G Beauty & Grooming | Bubble Hair

Hygral Fatigue
THE NATURAL HAVEN: Deep Conditioning: Effect of Time and Temperature/Heat
THE NATURAL HAVEN: Does your hair have hygral fatigue?
Mineral Oil Versus Coconut Oil: Which is better?
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
Thanks for the articles. I read the Natural Haven: DC article. Looks like it has to have either a surfactants, hydrolysed protein, silicone (don't use), or polyquat (at least this is what the person listed). After 30 minutes, it shows the hair won't absorb anymore after. So like you said, it depends on the ingredients. And after a certain time, it is deemd more pointless. It didn't say much on a certain heat damaging hair which further reinforces my idea that hot water isn't bad.
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Last edited by Samanthascurlz; 06-08-2013 at 12:48 PM.
Unless you're some sort of mutant/superhero, I don't think you're are capable of showering in water that reaches the same temperature as a flat iron or blow dryer.

It's why diffusing or sitting under a bonnet can be positive. When you sit under a bonnet heat isn't being directly applied and it more warm air opening your cuticle and not high heat destroying your hair.

For most people cooler water is less drying and leaves you with smoother hair. Personally I'm lazy, so I don't change the water temperature to rinse out my conditioner, but I think my low porosity hair can handle it.
Originally Posted by Jessiebanana
That is what I figured. I kind of refuted (in a non-confrontational way) that warm water isn't that bad, but I the person didn't agree. It's true, the hot water isn't insanely hot like a flat iron.
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Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
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I agree, there is no way your shower water is as hot as things like a flat iron.... and I like a HOT shower! When I am not freezing I do try to do a final cooler (I say cooler because I can't stand the cold water on my back which is unavoidable for someone who rinses upright) rinse to help close down the cuticle and tame frizz. I wouldn't say it's always super noticeable if I do or don't, but I like to think it does help a little.
Originally Posted by awelcome
I enjoy hot showers too! I never really saw a difference personally between hot vs. cold water. I try to lower the temp. of water for my final rinse-out but that's it.
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
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Curls
Do you only do a cold water rinse on the hair itself? On the scalp as well i asume? Or is this not necessary?

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Originally Posted by Karima
I don't believe it matters, unless you want to leave more conditioner near the scalp, rather than the ends.
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I started to rinse Jessicurl Too shea with cold water when I got it but my hair was just too... Moisturised? And, oh wel,l my curls started to go all over the (wrong) place. I find my hair is better when I rinse off the conditioner with Warm/Hot water and then after my shower, at the very end, I just poor cold water on my scalp and my hair just to make it curls better. (I can't really tell if it maked a huge difference but at least it feels good on the scalp)
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