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Old 06-12-2013, 01:49 PM   #1
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Anyone uses just paste wax or mud type products for styling? I am a 2a/b and am tired of gel which will give me ringlets that tend to fall through out the day. I don't want a harder hold gel seeing how I like my hair soft. I was thinking maybe a paste just to clump and scrunch and quit trying to make it curlier.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:59 PM   #2
 
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not necessarily CG approved:

LayRite pomade wax
TIGI manipulator
Deva Set Up and Above
TIGI flexible molding wax (in a silver ball)
Curly Hair Solutions Tweek (more of a cream, and I am not sure I like this one)
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:08 PM   #3
 
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By mudd do you mean okra gel?? You may be able to develop and use an okra gel or FSG that will give you most of what you want.

My hair prefers the more natural products. I use jelly type products instead of gels, stay away from polyquats, etc. My hair always feels soft and unproducty.

It's all about getting the protein/moisture balance right. My fine/low porosity hair loves protein--I do at least one PT a week and use a lot of protein. Protein tightens my curl, adds volume and reduces frizz.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:27 PM   #4
 
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Have you tried conditioner-only styling?

My Hair Loves Conditioner-Only Styling

I've had good luck with with KCKT, Alba Botanica Leave-in, and right now I'm drying my hair after using SheaMoisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl & style milk (I think I'm going to like it!)

The waves are looser but there's no producty feel and it's low-maintenance.

I also second home-made gels like flaxseed or okra.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:07 PM   #5
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I think I was remembering the Sebastian Mudd then I named the topic which is a paste.

I am not CG so that's not a problem, thanks for the recs PerriP.

Flax has been hit or miss for me. Drying crunchy then SOTC loosens up the curl too much.

I have been thinking of doing the conditioner only route but thought that wouldn't be enough. Plus my hair isn't really dry so it gets over conditioned easily.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:03 AM   #6
 
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I have been thinking of doing the conditioner only route but thought that wouldn't be enough. Plus my hair isn't really dry so it gets over conditioned easily.
You can always use very light leave-ins like kckt or giovanni direct leave-in. The latter did nothing for my hair but it gets good reviews so maybe for someone looking for something super-light it would be work.

From what you're saying it sounds like fsg would be a really good fit for you. You won't get overconditioned from using it and you can just scrunch and go. You may have to play around with consistency or different add-ins.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:05 AM   #7
 
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OH and I think we might be hair twins! Close enough! Always thought I was high porosity but I think I'm actually normal-low.
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Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni 2chic BK&AO
RO: TN Radiant Care, Giovanni SaS, Ogx BKT*, Sukin Nourishing, SS Caitlin's, various
LI: sometimes TN Radiant Care
Styler: FSG with CNPF, CJ Pattern Pusha, Volumax Mega, Ouidad Climate Control*, Ogx BKT serum*
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:07 AM   #8
 
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Also, I notice that you henna, is that for color or as a treatment? How does that affect the properties of your hair?
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Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni 2chic BK&AO
RO: TN Radiant Care, Giovanni SaS, Ogx BKT*, Sukin Nourishing, SS Caitlin's, various
LI: sometimes TN Radiant Care
Styler: FSG with CNPF, CJ Pattern Pusha, Volumax Mega, Ouidad Climate Control*, Ogx BKT serum*
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

*have cones
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:56 AM   #9
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I do the henna for color. I like it because my hair texture was not compromised - it is just as soft as it was before henna which wouldn't have been the case if I used conventional dye.

I do believe it makes me more sensitive to protein though. I can't deal with large doses of protein or my hair will feel dry and lose curl.
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