Question about ice queen method and upside down styling

Anytime I try rinsing or applying products upside down my under layers and ends do this weird thing... They kind of get bent up and stuck near my scalp. Idk how else to explain. It happens regardless of whether I comb, plop, etc and I have to pull those waves to untangle them from the rest. I've tried letting it dry to see if they fall naturally but they don't... They dry like that.

IK the ice queen method and applying products upside down is popular here... Has anyone else had this problem? If I apply right side up I obviously don't have this issue but I have no root lift (even if I plop).
2A/B. Mix of fine, medium, and coarse (mostly medium). Dense. Mix of normal and high porosity.
Dry climate.


I have that problem. Id suspect it has something to do with fine and or thin hair being easily malleable - like how I get ponytail dents easily. So I don't rinse upside down. I flip my head over after rinsing, shake out my hair, rake products in upside down then flip back up & rake thru the bottom layers, do it side to side, then scrunch in the same manner. Upside down, right side up, side to side. Then I plop & tie the back loosely & don't leave it in too long. Then I diffuse the same way. All directions.

I can't ice queen or super soak either. It's not just you.
fine, thin, normal/(low?) porosity. Mod-CG. Usually I can't co-wash more than 1x a week, & sometimes I have to use T-Gel in rotation due to scalp issues.

Co-wash: VO5 Volumizing
Poo: Giovanni 50:50
RO:TN, Nexxus Youth Renewal, Alba Coconut
LI: KCKT
PT: gelatin PT, ION EC
Stylers: Giovanni mousse, TIGI Curls Rock amplifier (a-cone), Curls Rock Strong Hold Mousse
Gels: SCC spray gel

After I plop, I manually pull down my bangs and back pieces. It helps if I grab them like a clump and place the bangs, and then I just rake the back straight down and then scrunch a little to help them re clump in the opposite direction.
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
I get that, leaving more water in helps even adding a bit extra, I guess the fine hair dries out too fast. Also not plopping but scrunch out the water with a flour sack towel instead.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
I can't do anything upside down, I have the same issues as you. I have to manipulate it so much to get it sitting right that I lose the whole point of having done things upside down in the first place!
3b in South Australia.

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