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Old 06-15-2013, 11:50 AM   #1
 
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Default In search of: gentler shampoo that will cut the 'cones

My daughter is going to college in the fall and doesn't want to go CG, but would like a more gentle/less drying shampoo. She's using Nexxus Humectress conditioner and doesn't want to change, but it's rather coney (I bolded what I think are the cones):

Water (Aqua) , Cetearyl Alcohol , Stearyl Alcohol , Cyclopentasiloxane , Dimethicone , Bis PG AmodimethiconeC13-15 Alkoxy , Stearalkonium Chloride , Fragrance (Parfum) , Aminopropyl Dimethicone , Cetrimonium Chloride , Isostearamidopropyl Dimethylamine , DMDM Hydantoin , Dimethiconol , C14 15 Alcohols , Limonene , Disodium EDTA , Citric Acid , Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate , Citronellol , Coumarin , Geraniol , Hexylcinnamal , Sodium Chloride , Hydrolyzed Keratin , Panthenol , Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) OilCoconut , Yellow 5 Lake (CI 19140) , Propylene Glycol , Red 4 (CI 14700) , Red 33 (CI 17200) , Polyglyceryl 3 Diisostearate , Blue 1 Lake (CI 42090) , Polysorbate 60 , Stearic Acid , Palmitic Acid , Myristic Acid , Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride , Honey Extract (Mel) , Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Flour LipidsWheat , Persea Gratissima Oil (Avocado) , Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate (Vitamin C) , Glycine Soja Sterol (Soybean) , Alpha Glucan Oligosaccharide , Ceramide 3 , Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate , Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane , Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E)


She's currently using a standard Tresemme shampoo. I need to find her something not terribly expensive that's readily available and doesn't come in tiny bottles. She's going to be in a very challenging program and doesn't want to think about it - she just wants to do the same thing every day.

Any ideas?

Thanks!!!
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Style: FSG, BRHG
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Would she be willing to try a cleansing conditioner? I use cones and I clarify once a week with a sulphate to get rid of them. My clarifying shampoo is from Great Clips and it rocks. It's 9 bucks, but I have had it for 6 months and it's not even halfway gone.
I hear anything with coco betatine will take them out. I believe that the Yes To products work for this.
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Old 06-15-2013, 12:33 PM   #3
 
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She's willing to try anything that will cut the cones. We're going to Great Clips tomorrow! What is the name of the product?
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Style: FSG, BRHG
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Old 06-15-2013, 12:34 PM   #4
 
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If you clarify once a week what do you do the other days?
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Old 06-15-2013, 12:36 PM   #5
 
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Cocomidapropyl betaine will remove cones, you can search by ingredient on the product reviews page.
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Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
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Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
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Old 06-15-2013, 12:42 PM   #6
 
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Cationic Surfactants in Curly Hair Care Products

What's the Scoop on Silicones?

The Giovanni poos have silicone-breaking surfactants in them and are rather gentle. I like them! I've tried the 50/50 and TTTT.
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LI: sometimes TN Radiant Care
Styler: FSG with CNPF, CJ Pattern Pusha, Volumax Mega, Ouidad Climate Control*, Ogx BKT serum*
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Old 06-15-2013, 12:45 PM   #7
 
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What are her hair properties and what will be the humidity/ dew points she will be dealing with? CURLS is a widely available brand now being stocked in Walmart and Target and they do a low-poo. They also have massive bottles of their regular line on the CURLS website.
CURLS curly hair products in your local Target store
curls curly haircare products in walmart
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Old 06-15-2013, 12:55 PM   #8
 
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She's medium, pretty dense. No idea on porosity. She gets frizz. The weather is high dews in the summer and low in the winter.

I'll look at the Curls, thanks!
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Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
Style: FSG, BRHG
Pre-poo/DT: Conditioner with honey & coconut oil

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Old 06-15-2013, 12:57 PM   #9
 
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DevaCare Low poo and Yes to Cucumbers Color Care shampoo both have coco betaine and will remove cones.
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:52 PM   #10
 
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Thanks!

I saw the L'Oréal Ever Curl line too.
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Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
Style: FSG, BRHG
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Old 06-15-2013, 03:08 PM   #11
 
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Thanks!

I saw the L'Oréal Ever Curl line too.
I think the shampoo has cones, but the cleansing conditioner doesn't.
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Old 06-15-2013, 03:12 PM   #12
 
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Desert Essence coconut shampoo should be good for getting rid of the cones but is still gentle.

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Old 06-15-2013, 03:20 PM   #13
 
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Thanks!
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Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
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If you clarify once a week what do you do the other days?
I use a cleansing conditioner from the evercurl line. It'd awesome. I use cones in my leave in so I am buying Gud by Burt's Bees. It's the grapefruit one and it smells delicious. I think it's sulphate free and has the CB in it.
My clariffy shampoo is mainly to remove hard water build up so it's strong. I want to use it less often so I'm trying the Gud shampoo
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She's willing to try anything that will cut the cones. We're going to Great Clips tomorrow! What is the name of the product?
It's the grey bottle with the light pink text. It's just called clarifying shampoo I think. This stuff has been a godsend for my dandruff / build up!
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Old 06-15-2013, 05:15 PM   #16
 
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The ones I've used and liked:

Giovanni SaS, and Renpure Organics (keratin or Argan oil.)

The Giovanni is the "strongest" of those, but I didn't find it stripping. (Definitely not a daily poo for me, though!)

Yes to Cucumbers is another gentle low poo that should cut the cones. I have not tried it yet, but just bought it a couple days ago bc I've heard good things! (And am a PJ. Lol!)
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Old 06-15-2013, 05:39 PM   #17
 
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Thanks! I'll look at the ingredients /prices /availability of all of these.
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Current favorites:
Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
Style: FSG, BRHG
Pre-poo/DT: Conditioner with honey & coconut oil

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Old 06-15-2013, 07:24 PM   #18
 
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Try organix products.
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:24 AM   #19
 
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I'll look in the supermarket today and then in the discount place (Harmon) near my office tomorrow. Harmon has a great selection.
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Current favorites:
Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
Style: FSG, BRHG
Pre-poo/DT: Conditioner with honey & coconut oil

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Old 06-16-2013, 08:28 AM   #20
 
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Also, Amazon counts as readily available, especially if I can get it Prime. I'm a big Amazon fan.
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Salt & pepper wavy mix 2B/2C
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Current favorites:
Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
Style: FSG, BRHG
Pre-poo/DT: Conditioner with honey & coconut oil

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