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Old 06-24-2013, 04:27 PM   #1
 
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Pre-CG I only washed my hair 3x per week for a variety of reasons one of which was to reduce fading of my color treated hair. Obviously my poo was full of sulfates and cones. I mostly now cowash with my devacare one condish and once a week I do low poo with the devacare low poo. The problem is that I find myself washing most every day now and wonder if it is more fading than my previous routine?
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:33 PM   #2
 
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There is no straightfoward answer to that, it depends on your colour and the specifics of your washing routine. My hair holds onto semi permanent pink-red incredibly well, but I conditioner-wash in cool water and mostly use leave in conditioner only. Some products are associated with more colour loss than others, I think proteins are worse.

pH is highly relevant, the more acidic products will keep the cuticle flat throughout, the closer to neutral the more likely the cuticle will raise possibly allowing colour molecules out. I think the pH of some of the Deva products are on the Natural Haven website.
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:59 PM   #3
 
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I dont know about cowashing, but depending on the type of color you have, and the ingredients in your products, glycerin may be a problem.

A quote from Tonya McKay on glycerin and color:

One of the biggest concerns I have seen expressed about glycerin is that it might remove or strip color from the hair. Many people with chemically dyed hair avoid it almost unilaterally. The truth of the matter is that glycerin is a reasonably good solvent for many types of molecules. It can dissolve and grab unbound dye molecules that are easily accessible near the exterior of the hair.

This is relevant in a few different cases. Users of permanent chemical dyes should exercise some caution in the initial days following processing. Hair that has been freshly colored with a permanent chemical dye is susceptible to loss of some colorant molecules because the cuticle may not have completely re-sealed. However, it is not cause for concern after the first washing because the colorant molecules have penetrated into the cortex of the hair shaft, the cuticle is sealed, and any excess on the surface is washed away.

Users of semi-permanent dyes or colors notorious for being short-lived (such as shades of red) may be wise to be extremely cautious regarding the use of glycerin in their hair. This is because these types of dye molecules are too large to penetrate the hair and reside predominantly on the exterior of the hair shaft. Glycerin can easily dissolve and remove these colors and accelerate the inevitable fading process.

Full article:

Is Glycerin Good for Your Hair?
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:43 AM   #4
 
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Wow, great information. Thanks! Unfortunately I have a brand new 32 oz jug of devacare condish that I need to use up and an appointment for hair color this Saturday. Bummer.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:23 AM   #5
 
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Wow, great information. Thanks! Unfortunately I have a brand new 32 oz jug of devacare condish that I need to use up and an appointment for hair color this Saturday. Bummer.
Do you have permanent or semi permanent done? What color? It sounds like the glycerin is an issue only on semi permanent and reds.
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:10 AM   #6
 
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I have been getting permanent, but had been considering going semi-permanent. Maybe this appointment isn't the time to make that change. I also have been getting partial dark blonde highlights but was considering going a bit darker this time since my natural hair has gotten much darker in the last couple of years. The difference in color wasn't real obvious when I did regular blow outs, but when I wear my hair curly its really a dramatic difference since the under part of my hair is much more visible. I need to talk over options with my stylist. I don't really want to color more of my hair than I have been.
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