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Old 06-27-2013, 11:25 AM   #21
 
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I use Nature's Gate. Cheap compared to a lot of other brands. I use it every few days.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:29 AM   #22
 
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I use Nature's Gate. Cheap compared to a lot of other brands. I use it every few days.
Which Nature's Gate do you like? I was looking at those too.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:50 PM   #23
 
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I grabbed the Herbal one. I don't like the scent too much but I definitely want to try the others.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:00 PM   #24
 
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SM Moisture retention, and Cocnut hibiscus; Yes to Cucumbers. I hated their no poo.
Ditto this!!

I've also used Giovanni Smooth as Silk, too. But SM's Curl Retention and Yes to Cucumbers are my favorites!
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Has anyone tried the Palmer's Olive Oil Formula Co-Wash Cleansing Conditioner ?


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Old 07-05-2013, 09:50 AM   #26
 
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Has anyone tried the Palmer's Olive Oil Formula Co-Wash Cleansing Conditioner ?


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Hair One Olive Oil Cleansing Conditioner

It has amodimethicone. Personally I wouldn't cowash with any silicones.
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Has anyone tried the Palmer's Olive Oil Formula Co-Wash Cleansing Conditioner ?


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Hair One Olive Oil Cleansing Conditioner

It has amodimethicone. Personally I wouldn't cowash with any silicones.
Ummm those aren't the same products, unless I missed something in that thread.




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The DermOrganics lowpoo is good too.
Have you checked your local TJ Maxx/ Marshalls for their products? I was there yesterday and they had the liter size with pumps of the poo, condish, and treatment....they were 9.99 each I think.
I was in my local TJ Maxx yesterday and the bottles were $20. Darn. Maybe they'll go on sale.
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Honestly, I wouldn't spend the $20 on the DermOrganic. I used it for a little bit, but I found that it didn't lather very much (or clean,) but it managed to dry my hair out. Personally, I think BR种 shampoos are the best I've ever tried. I am actually halfway through a bottle--and as a PJ, that never happens! haha
The lather is incredible but it actually moisturizes and makes it feel like I've used conditioner after I rinse.
I use this one:
BR种

But the company also has a shampoo for frizzy hair and a volumizing one. If you are protein-sensitive and worried that the protein in the beer in the shampoo would dry your hair out, it didn't dry out mine. In fact, I think it's helped with split ends.

I might put my SM Curl & Shine Shampoo and DermOrganic Shampoo on the trading board.
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:12 AM   #30
 
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Honestly, I wouldn't spend the $20 on the DermOrganic. I used it for a little bit, but I found that it didn't lather very much (or clean,) but it managed to dry my hair out. Personally, I think BR种 shampoos are the best I've ever tried. I am actually halfway through a bottle--and as a PJ, that never happens! haha
The lather is incredible but it actually moisturizes and makes it feel like I've used conditioner after I rinse.
I use this one:
BR种

But the company also has a shampoo for frizzy hair and a volumizing one. If you are protein-sensitive and worried that the protein in the beer in the shampoo would dry your hair out, it didn't dry out mine. In fact, I think it's helped with split ends.

I might put my SM Curl & Shine Shampoo and DermOrganic Shampoo on the trading board.
Wow! I've never heard of this! BEER as the 1st ingredient!!!!???? It appears to have a lot of surfactants, though....do you find it harsh? I may have to buy it for my hubby, although the scent sounds right up my alley! Vanilla, caramel, oh my!
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Honestly, I wouldn't spend the $20 on the DermOrganic. I used it for a little bit, but I found that it didn't lather very much (or clean,) but it managed to dry my hair out. Personally, I think BR种 shampoos are the best I've ever tried. I am actually halfway through a bottle--and as a PJ, that never happens! haha
The lather is incredible but it actually moisturizes and makes it feel like I've used conditioner after I rinse.
I use this one:
BR种

But the company also has a shampoo for frizzy hair and a volumizing one. If you are protein-sensitive and worried that the protein in the beer in the shampoo would dry your hair out, it didn't dry out mine. In fact, I think it's helped with split ends.

I might put my SM Curl & Shine Shampoo and DermOrganic Shampoo on the trading board.
Wow! I've never heard of this! BEER as the 1st ingredient!!!!???? It appears to have a lot of surfactants, though....do you find it harsh? I may have to buy it for my hubby, although the scent sounds right up my alley! Vanilla, caramel, oh my!
The beer makes your hair super healthy! Actually, after researching ingredients when trying to make my own products (hahaha, not very easy to do,) I found that these surfactants, although there are many, are super gentle. In fact, the coco betaine's primary function is to make the other surfactants gentler. The SCI provides tons of lather, but it is also one of the creamiest and most moisturizing surfactants. This is the only shampoo that doesn't strip my hair but still lathers unbelievably and cleans well. I took it to my salon when getting my hair cut, and she loved it too. Also, this brand is local for me, and I love supporting local businesses
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:53 AM   #32
 
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I hated the Dermorganic. It foamed oddly like hydrogen peroxide does and the fragrance was choking to me. I have most of a big bottle left. I should try to swap it.
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My mom told me that when she was younger she and her friends would use beer to condition their hair. So, I've heard of using beer before.

I just bought Everyday Shea Shampoo so we'll see.
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I have used Everyday Shea before It is gentle, but it is alkaline because it has a soap base. You may need to use an ACV rinse occasionally for pH balance.
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SM Moisture Retention is excellent. I just bought the Curl Retention one, but probably won't use it for a while because I don't shampoo very often. Actually I'm getting my hair cut again next Friday, so I'll probably try it out then and compare the two.
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Beer is slightly acidic and contains trace amounts of hydrolysed protein.
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Has anyone tried the Palmer's Olive Oil Formula Co-Wash Cleansing Conditioner ?


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Hair One Olive Oil Cleansing Conditioner

It has amodimethicone. Personally I wouldn't cowash with any silicones.
Ummm those aren't the same products, unless I missed something in that thread.
Yup, you're right! My bad. I can't seem to find the ingredients for the Palmer's cowash anywhere.
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Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

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Personally, I think BR种 shampoos are the best I've ever tried. I am actually halfway through a bottle--and as a PJ, that never happens! haha
The lather is incredible but it actually moisturizes and makes it feel like I've used conditioner after I rinse.
I use this one:
BR种

But the company also has a shampoo for frizzy hair and a volumizing one. If you are protein-sensitive and worried that the protein in the beer in the shampoo would dry your hair out, it didn't dry out mine. In fact, I think it's helped with split ends.
This looks pretty awesome! Good find!
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*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

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RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

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I have used Everyday Shea before It is gentle, but it is alkaline because it has a soap base. You may need to use an ACV rinse occasionally for pH balance.
Yeah, I wondered if the soap base would cause an issue. So much to learn.

There's no way I can use Broo. As a celiac I would never ever put beer on my head.
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I'm looking to change my sulfate free shampoo. I will check these out.
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