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Old 06-27-2013, 05:53 AM   #21
 
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I am really confused. On days that I don't wash my hair with shampoo or conditioner, I just don't do anything with my hair. I just leave it without letting it touch the water. Is this wrong? Am I supposed to Atleast rinse my hair? Would appreciate some advice. :/ Should I rinse with water on days when I don't shampoo or condition?
^^^ what Kathy said. Just condition on the days you do get it wet.
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Alsl – No wonder my hair looks red in certain lightings even though it’s not red. I didn’t think about the fact that it could have red undertones. Is there a way to get rid of it besides color? Thanks for the suggestion to try the Curly Girl method. Is this something that can be used even though I plan on wearing it straight?
There is no way to change your natural color without some sort of chemical process, however there are more natural and less damaging methods that you can use. Honey has low amounts of peroxide in it and when used correctly can mildly lighten hair color, and it is also a humectant which means that it helps to draw moisture into the hair. Some women also say it gives them great shine. However, I don't know how it would react with red undertones. I would suspect that it would pull the red and result in a brassy blonde. Its also just going to continue to lighten your already processed hair. Henna is another option, but I do not have any knowledge of it.

As for curly girl, you certainly could follow it even if you plan to wear your hair straight. The problem is you will continue to damage your hair with heat unless you use heat protective styling products - which typically contain silicones. To be perfectly honest, I think your natural hair is quite beautiful. I don't know the specific qualities of your hair that you disliked, but its possible that those things could be improved by following curly girl.
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I am really confused. On days that I don't wash my hair with shampoo or conditioner, I just don't do anything with my hair. I just leave it without letting it touch the water. Is this wrong? Am I supposed to Atleast rinse my hair? Would appreciate some advice. :/ Should I rinse with water on days when I don't shampoo or condition?
Don't wet if you don't need to, every time you wet you risk hygral fatigue (water damage). Read up on the Curly Girl method in the stickies, check out Waterlily716 on YouTube.
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This girl has naturally curly hair and straightens it frequently, her hair is VERY healthy. The flat iron she’s using is the one I plan on using once I get my hair healthy. I realize that most people on this site embrace their curly hair but I don’t. But my natural hair is still curly and needs to be treated gently so I came here for advice with getting it healthy again.

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It's really hard to tell how truly "healthy" her hair really is. If she's using products with silicones (sorry didn't watch the whole video but most likely she is as they are often found in heat-protectant products) the sillicones are just masking any hair damage, making it look healthier than it really is. I can guarantee you that her hair would be healthier if she cut the heat though.

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I’m not that familiar with conditioning washing. Do you use just any conditioner? Wouldn’t the hair be greasy and dirty from no shampooing? I only shampoo twice a week right now but I never condition at all. I just use all these silicone products that I thought were helping. Should I condition every day and stick with shampooing twice a week and see how that works?
I do sleep on a satin pillowcase and the hat I bought says “block out the sun” on it so I would think it works. Is it bad to use a comb when the hair is wet? That’s what I do when I get out of the shower. I comb it out and use detangler. I only thought it was bad to use a brush.
The idea behind cowashing is using a very light conditioner (without silicones!) to cleanse your hair and scalp. Tresemme Naturals, Suave Naturals, V05 are popular light conditioners that are used for co-washing. You can also use a cleansing conditioner such as Curl Junkie Daily Fix. You massage the light conditioner or cleansing conditioner on your scalp very thoroughly and the light conditioner plus agitation basically emulsifies the sebum from your scalp and lifts away dirt, sweat, debris etc. Rinse clean.

Then you can add your rinse-out conditioner (RO). Leave for a few minutes to soak into your hair (I'll wash my body, shave my legs in the meantime etc.) Your RO can be the same one as your co-washing conditioner. Others prefer a thicker conditioner for their RO.

I'm wondering, if cowashing would be the best thing for you. There was some recent threads about it making blondes a little darker (probably because of the extra moisture in the hair). If you don't want to co-wash you can use a gentle, sulfate-free, silicone-free shampoo or low-poo. Some popular ones are the SheaMoisture ones (Moisture Retention, Coconut and Hibiscus), DermOrganics, Curl Junkie Gentle Cleansing poo, Yes to Cucumbers, Renpure, Giovanni. There were a few recent threads on favorite low-poos. You can also use the "Products" tab of this website to look for products and reviews.

Remember that most low-poos do not have surfactants strong enough to remove silicones, so you'll have to cut silicones out of your hair's diet. Some low-poos can remove silicones, look for cocamidopropyl betaine or coco betaine in the ingredients list.

You should always use a conditioner (RO) after you low-poo. Many also use a leave-in conditioner (LI) as well. This can be the same as your RO or a different one depending on your hair's needs.

How often you wet and cleanse your hair is up to you, whether shampooing or cowashing. I hate getting my hair wet every day, and will low-poo 2-4 times a week. Some curlies cleanse (whether by cowashing or low-pooing) every day, some do once a week. Some mix it up between cowashing and low-pooing. If you've only been washing your 2x a week I think that should continue working for you. Experiment and adjust if needed.

You should never comb your hair while dry. Always comb (with a wide-tooth comb only) or finger-detangle (even better) in the shower while your hair is soaked with conditioner. The conditioner should have good slip. An awesome detangler is Kinky Curly Knot Today.

I bolded some words because they are terms that are commonly used on these boards.



I can't tell you how to wear you how to wear your hair, whether curly or straight. However I can say that I think your curls deserve a chance!!!! Get educated and treat your hair well and you'll see your curls really come into their own. I think you have nice hair anyway and once you figure out what your hair needs it's only up from here. And who knows, in the end, you may even like your curls!
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I feel you, girl. I tried to fight my curls (I do have red hair--it's not bad for years. Really wreaked havoc on my hair with heat damage. I chopped off around 4 inches, which was hard for me because I wanted to grow it out SO BAD, but now it looks SO MUCH healthier. You might consider cutting off a few inches to get a fresh start. Do not use Herbal Essences. It smells good but has damaging sulfates. My hair is dry and I don't tend to flake or get greasy, so depending on how active I am, I can go up to 6 days comfortably before I wash my hair. I never use shampoo unless I swam or used a hair mask, and in that case, I'll only use a little bit. Give co-washing a trial run. You probably don't need to shampoo every 3 days, truth be told. Do not use any sort of heat on your hair. If you want it straighter, try wet-wrapping or sleep in big curlers. Use oil (Biosilk or coconut are my favorites) on your hair after the shower to seal in moisture and help with the dryness and frizz.
If your virgin hair is growing in dry, make an appointment with your doctor to see if you have any thyroid or other health issues going on. If that turns up nothing, make sure that you're eating a balanced diet and you can also take a multivitamin. I take Andrew Lessman's Healthy Hair, Skin, and Nails along with my multivitamin every night. It's sped up the growth rate of my hair and made it feel softer and healthier. The only downside is that my nails grow outrageously quickly!
You're not happy with your hair color? Unfortunately, you'll need to make a decision: either continue to color/damage it in its delicate state, or live with it and learn to love it. You said you wanted to have long, straight brown hair--your hair looks pretty brown to me, but unfortunately, you will likely never have naturally straight brown hair. Some people have very strong, healthy, non-damaged hair that they can afford to highlight and color. You, my dear, by your description, do not. I would advise that you do not color/highlight your hair until your hair grows out healthy and strong.
If your hairdresser is not listening to you and getting angry with you--it's time for a new hairdresser!!! Look around this forum, often you can find recommendations for hairdressers that are good with curly hair in your area. I have had three hairdressers in the last two decades, and I would trust any of them with my life! It's so important to find someone and stick with them, especially if you have curly hair, so that you develop a relationship and they know what works and what doesn't.
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My education continues! I was reading another post and saw someone link to Live Curly Live Free and thoroughly agree with this statement:

"Over 65% of the world’s population has curly hair, yet many girls with curls straighten and damage their hair with blow-dryers and flat irons rather than wear their natural curls....
....Curly hair in and of itself really isn’t the problem, however. The vast majority of curly hair problems are due to improper haircuts, bad styling products and ineffective styling techniques..." (emphasis added)

Like what has been said in earlier posts, a good starting point is ditching sulphate shampoos AND silicones in conditioners as well as styling products.

A great hair cut will allow your curls to behave, esp when they are properly hydrated. Some curlies find long layers to be a great solution, as it will give enough length to keep the curls somewhat down, but remove some of the weight to avoid the 'triangle' head (I've worn that style, I can admit it - flat on top, ringlets on the bottom - all in a triangle shape)

I've gotten the sense from reading many posts that flat ironing seems to cause more damage than dyeing? (depending on whether you are lightening, etc). Sounds like we end up having a choice - either to flat iron or dye but not both (and preferable not flat iron ha!).

My eldest has to have her hair pin straight for cheer competitions. Talk about highlighting the sun damage!! I was shocked! I got a programmable flat iron, was careful with it. She does not use any products, nor dyes on her hair (she is 8 years old). Next time, I tried a heat protector and her hair felt like doll's hair the next day, and it took me forever to get that stuff fully out of her hair (resorted to buying a small bottle of regular shampoo).

Of course, she loved the look as she looked older, her hair looked longer. Couldn't stop looking at herself. I grumbled useless advice.

Then, after the fourth competition, I said, feel the ends of your hair.....she said, it feels rough like doll's hair! And I said, that's what flat ironing does to your hair.....and it is permanent damage (again, this was on the sun damage parts).....she never asked me to do straighten it again, outside of competitions. The pleasure that she gets from having silky, shiny hair outweighs the pin straight (granted, she's a wavy head, not a curly).

Since going modified CG with her, she's loved her hair for the first time (in her relatively short, but drama filled, life). I really do think that so much can be done by treating our hair nicely, getting flattering cuts. I can't believe the shine that I now have (okay, my hair is so dark these days), or that my girls have (they are light blondes).
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Since going modified CG with her, she's loved her hair for the first time (in her relatively short, but drama filled, life).
This made me LOL! It's actually amazing how we have the tools and knowledge nowadays to help our girls have nice waves and curls from an early age. Oh the triangle head I had in my first license picture!!!! My hair was just a big frizzball. I went to HS in Florida and almost every single girl straightened her hair. It was the only way everyone knew how to combat frizz. Except for me. I wasn't really up on make-up and hair stuff so I just had a triangle, LOL.
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This made me LOL! It's actually amazing how we have the tools and knowledge nowadays to help our girls have nice waves and curls from an early age. Oh the triangle head I had in my first license picture!!!! My hair was just a big frizzball. I went to HS in Florida and almost every single girl straightened her hair. It was the only way everyone knew how to combat frizz. Except for me. I wasn't really up on make-up and hair stuff so I just had a triangle, LOL. [/QUOTE]

Lately, since I have been growing out my hair from a pixie cut, I have been sporting an INVERTED triangle shape in the morning (is there a way to display photos in our profile or signature? I posted the AWFUL morning photo of myself on another thread - growing out a pixie - and it has made many laugh aloud when they see it - makes me giggle too).

I like to thinking that the triangle is the curly head's alternative to a hat....the triangle calms and contains (and weighs down) curly hair. I'd wear a hat on bad hair days....if the darn thing would fit! My lovely sunhat that I wore for my pixie years is SUDDENLY too tight! My curls are too springy!!! I can barely think when I wear it, as it is so tight.
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Thanks for all the tips/advice, I really appreciate it!

I am concerned about going CG and co-washing because I've seen a lot of posts on here of people co-washing and their hair thinning/falling out because of too much moisture. Has anyone experienced this? Is there a way to avoid it? I wonder if I should co-wash but use shampoo a couple times a month so it doesn't get too moisturized.

Today I used Herbal Essences like I normally do, only I just used the shampoo on my scalp instead of my entire hair and I conditioned and WOW. The top of my head (where there's no color damage) feels SO SOFT. I guess it was the fact that I wasn't conditioning and my hair really is growing in healthy. But the color damaged part is VERY DRY.

So if I'm understanding correctly, since hair is dead keratin, nothing can repair it. Silicones and stuff like that will disguise the damage and co-washing will prevent it from getting worse but nothing can actually repair it. Once it's damaged, it's damaged. Even eating a healthy diet will just make new hair growth healthy, but not existing hair. Is this right?

Since I only shampoo twice a week, would I be okay shampooing as long as I use conditioner or would it still be a good idea to try co-washing? I'm really nervous now though. My hair is dry enough, I don't need it falling out

Oh and I got the blood test done. I'm waiting to hear results. It's possible I'm not getting enough vitamins or protein to make my hair strong and healthy. Also, I just ordered my flat iron, super excited

Thanks again for all the advice here, I'm learning so much!
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I was one of those people that thought cowashing was thinning my hair (I edited my OP but I think I should comment on it so it comes up again on the boards) but it turns out it was telogen effluvium. I think the cowashing was just making me shed more of the telogen hairs that were bound to come out, but it wasn't the root cause. (Now this is what happened in my case, I can't say what happened for the other posters.)

OKAY. If you're unsure of cowashing at first you can still be CG if you low-poo and use CG-friendly products. That may be an easier introduction. Then you can start cowashing like half the time (so alternate cowashing and lowpooing) and see how it goes and take it from there.

If the hair is badly damaged, yes you'll have to grow it out. There's nothing that can really fix it. If let's say it's very porous from bleaching etc, you can help it by doing protein treatments, using good conditioners, treating it gently, no heat etc.
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Thinning isn't all that common with CO, and there can be a variety of reasons for it (not being overly moisturized, but sensitivities, overzealous scrubbing, etc.). Most people experience less shedding, though. I think at least trying it out is a very good idea, because once you start flat ironing your hair is going to need the extra moisture.

Damage can't be repaired, although protein and moisture treatments will help to improve the appearance and feel of your hair. Since you want to start flat ironing frequently, I would have your hair trimmed to the shortest length you're willing to have, and then keep up with regular trims after that--the heat damage is going to be greatest where your hair is oldest, so trimming will help to keep your ends fresh and avoid some breakage. You don't want straight hair with thin ends! Then do protein and moisture treatments as needed, and make sure to use the lowest effective temperature and heat protectant when you do flat iron (but keep in mind that heat protectant won't prevent damage entirely). You won't be able to flat iron and maintain hair that's as healthy as virgin hair, but if you're careful, and baby it as much as possible, you can have the straight hair you want and still have it be in reasonable condition.
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Thanks for all the tips/advice, I really appreciate it!

I am concerned about going CG and co-washing because I've seen a lot of posts on here of people co-washing and their hair thinning/falling out because of too much moisture. Has anyone experienced this? Is there a way to avoid it? I wonder if I should co-wash but use shampoo a couple times a month so it doesn't get too moisturized.

Today I used Herbal Essences like I normally do, only I just used the shampoo on my scalp instead of my entire hair and I conditioned and WOW. The top of my head (where there's no color damage) feels SO SOFT. I guess it was the fact that I wasn't conditioning and my hair really is growing in healthy. But the color damaged part is VERY DRY.

So if I'm understanding correctly, since hair is dead keratin, nothing can repair it. Silicones and stuff like that will disguise the damage and co-washing will prevent it from getting worse but nothing can actually repair it. Once it's damaged, it's damaged. Even eating a healthy diet will just make new hair growth healthy, but not existing hair. Is this right?

Since I only shampoo twice a week, would I be okay shampooing as long as I use conditioner or would it still be a good idea to try co-washing? I'm really nervous now though. My hair is dry enough, I don't need it falling out

Oh and I got the blood test done. I'm waiting to hear results. It's possible I'm not getting enough vitamins or protein to make my hair strong and healthy. Also, I just ordered my flat iron, super excited

Thanks again for all the advice here, I'm learning so much!
Sounds like you are moving forwards apace!

Sulphate shampoos are proven to cause or contribute to hair loss in susceptible individuals, this is believed to be irritation/ inflammation at the cellular level. Shedding may also occur in some who conditioner only wash but the cause(s) have not been identified, AFAIK there is no evidence it is due to 'too much moisture', it could be too much massage/ rough handling, poor cleansing, ingredients causing irritation or allergies, worsening of underlying scalp issues. Our faces and bodies don't end up balding because we use cleansing lotion to take our make up off, conditioner to shave our legs or moisturiser twice a day.

Exactly right: nothing can permanently repair dead hair, what was lost was bonded to your hair in a way that cannot be replicated. Certain ingredients can patch repair the surface - in other words temporary - and a couple can penetrate 'plugging' the holes in the structure, increasing elasticity or reducing porosity. Some ingredients can closely replicate the natural chemicals that were lost, be they proteins or lipids (fats).

Some 'patch repairs' last one wash, some last several washes, some seal water in some seal water out, which is best depends on the type of damage you have, your hair properties, your local climate. Somewhat damaged hair can be 'patch repaired' so that is looks and feels attractive, badly damaged hair cannot it will split, break or feel dry and rough regardless.

By all means use a sulphate free shampoo if you feel more comfortable - just choose a product that is pH 4.5 to 5.5, ideally no anionic surfactants. If you continue to use silicones be sure to use a product containing cocoamidopropyl betaine. Shampoo does not need to foam to cleanse, massage shifts sebum and skin cells from the scalp and roots.
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how the original poster is doing on her curly journey?
I'm doing okay, struggling to get my hair perfectly straight without frizz though. I have an appt made at the end of September with my hair stylist so he can help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I just wish I could get in sooner, he's booked solid. I have started using a sulfate free shampoo, L'oreal EverCreme Intense Nourishing Shampoo. My hair feels so much softer. It still has tangles but less. This may be due to the fact that I'm still using Herbal Essences conditioner, I might want to switch to the matching L'oreal conditioner. Only I'm having a problem with buildup (from my straightening products) and really need to clarify and the L'oreal isn't getting all the buildup out. It has coco betaine but that's not strong enough for some cones, like cyclopentasiloxane, which is in my products. I want to stay sulfate free but I don't see how.
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