Will Target trigger the death of the 'ethnic hair' aisle?

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In conclusion, Target should just have a CG section.
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I LOVE target - but rarely check out the cosmetic section of the store - so I am missing out on a lot of products i totally forgot they have! doh!
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I find it frustrating that the ethnic and natural hair care are often in completely different aisles in stores. It is like that at my Target and Walgreens. There's the huge hair care aisle, but the natural stuff is over by the skin care stuff (?). In target, the ethnic hair stuff is in a different aisle, with the curling irons and blow dryers, and the natural stuff is in the skin care aisle.

It would be nice if it were all together, especially for people who are there looking for new products...that aren't necessarily educated about the difference..if they don't know where to look, they're missing out on finding the more natural products as an option.

I am very snooty when it comes to product packaging. The SM line, mixed chicks, mop-c, gud, etc, tend to have more boutique-looking packaging and would stand out well in the main hare care aisle and really gain momentum.

I hate to say it, but this packaging snootiness is why I don't shop at Sally's very often. I have to put the GVP products in my own containers just so they don't look...so generic. I love pretty bottles!
Originally Posted by chloe92us
This is how it is at my Target, so if you're looking for something new, you have to check two different places to see if they carry it. But you know, I was thinking about it, and in a way hair care is kind of a marketing nightmare. Group products for straighties together? Well, is that real straighties, curlies who think they're straight, or curlies who wish they were straight? Same for curly products. Natural products? Do they have to be really natural, or just say so on the label? All the people who don't really know what hair type they are, or want to be something else... See what I mean? I suppose the best way would be to just group by manufacturer and let the shopper figure it out for themselves. Heck, people here know way more about hair than most, and look at all the trouble we have, lol. Wouldn't it be nice if stores carried a list of ingredients that we could look up?
Originally Posted by CurlyInTheFog
Very good point!
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When I look at Target online a lot of the natural stuff says not sold in stores and in my area (San Diego,CA) they haven't been restocking the stuff they do carry . They actually put a lot of Shea Moisture stuff on clearance not too long ago.
all i care is, hey if they get more natural products or more in general like walmart has, im happy.
My Target seems to sell out of SM products pretty quickly, too, and they don't carry the whole line anyway. I live six miles outside town, and the Target is another six or seven miles in the other direction, so I can't go running down there every day to see if they have what I want in stock. If I go on a regular shopping trip and they don't have what I need, I end up ordering it online (usually from Walgreens, lol). It seems silly to order things that are supposedly easily available (Tresemme Naturals), but I don't want to drive all over looking for stuff. I spend enough time in the car as it is.
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I was in Target earlier today looking at the Kinky Curly hair products, and this girl came over to the same section I was in (they were both Caucasian). She was look at this deep conditioner, and she whispered to her friend, "This product doesn't belong here with all the black stuff". I was appalled at what she said, especially with other people around. I think that all of these products should be integrated with all of the other hair products because of people like them who are completely IGNORANT. Hair products don't just pertain to one nationality/culture. It's about your HAIR, not your background.
all i care is, hey if they get more natural products or more in general like walmart has, im happy.
Originally Posted by hambo02
Really? Most Targets have more natural stuff, compared to Wal-Mart


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I was in Target earlier today looking at the Kinky Curly hair products, and this girl came over to the same section I was in (they were both Caucasian). She was look at this deep conditioner, and she whispered to her friend, "This product doesn't belong here with all the black stuff". I was appalled at what she said, especially with other people around. I think that all of these products should be integrated with all of the other hair products because of people like them who are completely IGNORANT. Hair products don't just pertain to one nationality/culture. It's about your HAIR, not your background.
Originally Posted by anissafersure
It's unfortunate that some people associate hair and nationality. Umm no, there isn't a significant correlation!
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When I first went CG in November of 2012, all of the natural haircare brands at Target were in a very skinny section at the end of the aisle. I can't remembered if it was called the "Ethnic" section, per say, but it was quite obvious-with the Dark and Lovely products being clustered right there--who the section was intended for. Just a few short months afterwards, however, I noticed that Target was spotlighting stuff like Miss Jessie's and Shea Moisture towards the front of a separate aisle under the heading "Natural Beauty Products" and the ethnic section's title was actually "Natural and Textured Hair". They also recently started carrying a brand called Tio Nacho so it seems they're reaching out to the Hispanic communities as well. (I have to say though, Uncle Nacho is full of 'cones. ) I also think it's a little disorganized the way they go about it and agree that all of the natural haircare Products should be in one aisle. The "CG" asile. And they should move the Yes To and Giovanni haircare products over there as well. Honestly, WTH are they doing in the skincare aisle? Anyways, I'm really happy Target is spotlighting natural hair care products for the masses though. Before I went CG I didn't shop in the "Ethnic" section because I didn't know any better. With segregation the way that it was, I had no idea that products for tightly textured kinky-curlies would work so well for a loosely-textured wavy-curly like me.
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When I look at Target online a lot of the natural stuff says not sold in stores and in my area (San Diego,CA) they haven't been restocking the stuff they do carry . They actually put a lot of Shea Moisture stuff on clearance not too long ago.
Originally Posted by SpiralSpunk
Yeah, I'm a little worried about that. I just checked the website. Maybe Target is going to stop carrying Shea Moisture. First they were all, buy 5 get a $5 giftcard. I was there earlier and it was buy one item at $9.99, get a $5 giftcard. They seem anxious to get rid of my beloved SM which makes me sad because it's my HG brand. I suppose I'll have to start shopping at Walgreens more often.
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I'm going to check this out! That's not right! Target should be ashamed of themselves.
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I was in Target earlier today looking at the Kinky Curly hair products, and this girl came over to the same section I was in (they were both Caucasian). She was look at this deep conditioner, and she whispered to her friend, "This product doesn't belong here with all the black stuff". I was appalled at what she said, especially with other people around. I think that all of these products should be integrated with all of the other hair products because of people like them who are completely IGNORANT. Hair products don't just pertain to one nationality/culture. It's about your HAIR, not your background.
Originally Posted by anissafersure
Big mouth me would have said, "Curly hair is curly hair. It all needs hydration. It's perfectly placed."
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I was in Target earlier today looking at the Kinky Curly hair products, and this girl came over to the same section I was in (they were both Caucasian). She was look at this deep conditioner, and she whispered to her friend, "This product doesn't belong here with all the black stuff". I was appalled at what she said, especially with other people around. I think that all of these products should be integrated with all of the other hair products because of people like them who are completely IGNORANT. Hair products don't just pertain to one nationality/culture. It's about your HAIR, not your background.
Originally Posted by anissafersure
It's unfortunate that some people associate hair and nationality. Umm no, there isn't a significant correlation!
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
There is a correlation. It why if you move to certain countries it's easier or harder to find curly hair products. Stores cater to their demographic. You even see the difference between neighborhoods in the US.
I was in Target earlier today looking at the Kinky Curly hair products, and this girl came over to the same section I was in (they were both Caucasian). She was look at this deep conditioner, and she whispered to her friend, "This product doesn't belong here with all the black stuff". I was appalled at what she said, especially with other people around. I think that all of these products should be integrated with all of the other hair products because of people like them who are completely IGNORANT. Hair products don't just pertain to one nationality/culture. It's about your HAIR, not your background.
Originally Posted by anissafersure
It's unfortunate that some people associate hair and nationality. Umm no, there isn't a significant correlation!
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
There is a correlation. It why if you move to certain countries it's easier or harder to find curly hair products. Stores cater to their demographic. You even see the difference between neighborhoods in the US.
Originally Posted by Jessiebanana
You are right, demographics can determine many things- but you can't assume that when someone is a specific race that they will have 'a' or 'b' type of hair. There is this thing called outliers which should be taken into effect as well. I live in a predominately 'white town' but I am half black, so that means that my hair is a certain way bc of demographics? I am half portuguese, many of them have very 'straight' hair; however, I have seen some with type 2 hair as well- this is based off experience. I don't know everyone in Portugal, so I am not going to assume there aren't any curlies. See what I am saying? it varies by people. I don't like generalizing because the generalizing comes from personal experience not facts. Demographics generalize.

Also, I wanted to add that @anissafersure was explaining those women's words on a certian hair product bc it was placed in the 'ethnic' area. Their thought process was ignorant bc they assumed that a product wouldn't work bc it was placed in the ethnic section. ALSO, if you notice the Kinky Curly proucts are used by so many curlies that don't have 'kinky' hair. Thus, re-reading what I wrote I am going to re-phrase what I said: there isn't a significant correlation between certain hair products that are for specific nationatlies and hair types. I am half black, but I don't use dark and lovely, does that mean I should though?
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Last edited by Samanthascurlz; 06-30-2013 at 11:07 AM.
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There is a significant correlation. Significance means one that is statistically more than chance/random.

Significance doesn't mean 100%.

What you said just illustrates my point.
At my Target, there is an ethnic hair care section which houses all these products and it is behind the two aisles filled with "Caucasian hair products". It is actually situated beside the brushes, combs, and scrunchies.
There is a significant correlation. Significance means one that is statistically more than chance/random.

Significance doesn't mean 100%.

What you said just illustrates my point.
Originally Posted by Jessiebanana
I edited what I posted. Please don't try to push away what this entire thread is about. It is about how people assume that certain products placed in a certain area are for certain people. When I say significance, jessiebanana, I am speaking more on the fact that there can be a correlation, but it isn't absolutely certain. Thank you
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At my Target, there is an ethnic hair care section which houses all these products and it is behind the two aisles filled with "Caucasian hair products". It is actually situated beside the brushes, combs, and scrunchies.
Originally Posted by teewalk21
But apparently, according to Jessiebanana, since there is a correlation between hair type and nationality, these 'ethnic' products should be there. All caucasion people should use ONLY Caucasian products.
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At my Target, there is an ethnic hair care section which houses all these products and it is behind the two aisles filled with "Caucasian hair products". It is actually situated beside the brushes, combs, and scrunchies.
Originally Posted by teewalk21
But apparently, according to Jessiebanana, since there is a correlation between hair type and nationality, these 'ethnic' products should be there. All caucasion people should use ONLY Caucasian products.
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
LOL...no that isn't what I said, but if you wish to interpret it that way knock yourself out.
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