Uh...not so sure about this gel thing

Admittedly, I don't know what the heck I'm doing yet. And it's hot and humid out so the world is against me.

But I started my new CO regiment today, and my hair felt nice and slippery (but not bulky! which was nice) with a little of the CO conditioner applied as a leave in. But then I applied gel (LA Looks NutraCurl) and that nice soft slipperiness turned into strange squeaky weirdness. I'm 50% dry (air dry) now and the sides and ends look OK but the crown is fuzzy and not so pleasant to the touch. I don't know what I'm doing...but it really does seem like maybe my hair not loving the gel? What do you think? Should I try mousse (pretty hesitant because my hair is super-thick and coarse)? Or can I try just leave-in and nothing else?
Jessica
Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Sealer: Olive oil
Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
DT: olive oil and honey
It sounds like you didn't get enough gel on your crown, which is why it may be frizzing a little bit. It takes a bit of practice to cover all areas evenly.
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
Is it normal for the gel to feel so unpleasant when you apply it?
Jessica
Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Sealer: Olive oil
Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
DT: olive oil and honey
JessMess i think our hair is quite alike though i am low porosity rather than high...are you sure you are high porosity? Gels feel weird in my hair too, i think its cuz i'm 1.just sensitive to feeling any product besides a conditioner/LI in my hair and 2.i'm low porosity so lots of things tend to "sit" on my hair....

i don't like mousse either. i'm on the hunt for a good LI that will keep the frizz away..i've found a decent lowpoo&cond.i think

i also find with really thick hair u have to use a lot more product than you think you will.make sure to spread a thin layer over your canopy too
Yes it's normal for the texture to change with many gels, that is due to the ingredients and/ or the pH. Use way more leave in next time - definitely more than 'a little' - and ensure you get both products spread evenly. I find I do best with so much leave in that I am convinced I have used way too much.

Don't draw any conclusions about what your hair likes or dislikes from one or a couple of uses, it takes time to get used to the technique and amount your hair needs. And don't judge your hair by the drying process, hair that looks tangled and frizzy can transform into soft ringlets when fully dry and the crunch scrunched out. DO NOT TOUCH your crown when your hair is still damp!

Are you using the same conditioner for all three steps: washing, wash out conditioning and leave in conditioning? You can but that is unusual, especially for high porosity hair which tends to need richer conditioning conditioners IYSWIM.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
The crunchiness of the gel is unfamiliar, too. Totally dry now and it feels better after running my fingers through it from underneath. The crown is still a problem, but that could indeed be my fault from application. Work in progress.

I am NOT sure my hair is porous. I don't know what the heck I'm doing.
Jessica
Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Sealer: Olive oil
Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
DT: olive oil and honey
The crunchiness of the gel is unfamiliar, too. Totally dry now and it feels better after running my fingers through it from underneath. The crown is still a problem, but that could indeed be my fault from application. Work in progress.

I am NOT sure my hair is porous. I don't know what the heck I'm doing.
Originally Posted by JessMess
'Scrunch out the crunch' rather than run your fingers through it. Have you read up on the Curly Girl method? There are plenty of CG videos on YouTube too, Waterlily716 is good.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
I combine the Shea moisture curl smoothie & milk with Softee conditioning gel. Doing this, I don't get crunchy hair.
Thanks again ladies. I am not unhappy with what I ended up with today--totally presentable--but I think there's room for improvement. Tomorrow I'm going to try "scrunch-n-pump" and "scrunch out the crunch" with the gel. I may try skipping the gel at some point and see what that does.

Are you using the same conditioner for all three steps: washing, wash out conditioning and leave in conditioning?
Right now, yes--I am using Tresemme Naturals Moisture. I think I want to see how my hair likes it before I add something else in; that way if there's a problem I will know which product to blame!
Jessica
Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Sealer: Olive oil
Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
DT: olive oil and honey
My first few attempts with gel turned out pretty crappy. I still end up with some frizz by the end of the day, but between wind and my activities, I don't expect perfection. Pixiecurl diffusing really helps me get my hair dry with minimal frizz. After scrunching, plopping, or however you prep for drying, gather a section of curls into your diffuser and bring it up close to your head (kind of scrunching with the diffuser), and then turn the dryer on. Dry the section for 30 seconds to 2 minutes on low-med. heat. I usually do 15 sections on medium and then switch to low for another 45 sections. Too much heat makes me nervous, lol. Then go to another section, and repeat.

It does take time to learn technique. I'm not very good at gel application yet, but it's better every time. I'm playing around with a few different gels, so to save time I'm doing half my head with one gel and the other half with a different gel. I'm actually getting quite different results, too. In a way it's working out really well because when you can look in the mirror and see the difference it's much more obvious than if you try one gel one day and another one the next.
3a/b, F, normal porosity

Wash with either Suave Tropical Coconut, As I Am, or CJ Daily Fix
Condition with STC or Yes to Blueberries and detangle with Denman, rinse very lightly (baptismal rinse)
Add LAL gel, either Sport or Wet Look, scrunch with flour sack towel, and plop
Diffuse 5 minutes, then air dry
Gel just doesn't work for me

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CG/LOC Method's 3b/3c hair SL-Curly/ Goal-MBL Curly
Weekly Poo/Low Poo: some Shea M Poo.
Weekly Deep Treat-Dermorganic Intensive Hair Masque
Bi-Weekly RO:Tresseme Naturals - V.Smooth/N.Moisture
Daily Leave in:Shea Moisture Extra Moisture Detangler
Daily Oil: Olive Oil & Conut Oil Mix
Daily Styler: Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk
you say "I don't know what the heck I am doing that" and I have to admit that I had that same feeling until 2-3 weeks ago (now it's getting better).

What did that feeling go away a bit?
1) Hair analysis (cheap one with LCLF which I did or a far more thorough one but also more expensive with Komaza) to determine hair properties
2) reading: I purchased the LCLF ebook and I find it much clearer and more sciency (but clear science, not like you need to study sciences to get it) than the CG handbook...

Just read and learn to know your hair and you will not have that feeling anymore
2c: fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity, normal-high density
CG since March 8th 2013
Low Poo: Rainforest Radiance shampoo
Conditioner: Yes to Cucumbers
Styler: BRHG, Garnier Fructis Gel
PT: Gliss Kur Repair & Volume


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