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Old 06-28-2013, 12:01 PM   #1
 
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Default Will the mineral oil and petrolatum in this be problematic?

I've heard different things about mineral oil. Some say its good for moisture retention/frizz control (sealing?) and others say it builds up as if you're putting Vaseline in your hair. Thoughts? A curl cream I want to try has it.

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Aqua (Water), Mineral oil, Petrolatum, Cetearyl alcohol, Stearic acid, Cetyl alcohol, Phenoxyethanol, Hippophae rhamnoides (Obliphica) oil, Argania spinosa kernel oil, Polyquaterniu-7, Cetrimonium chloride, Triethanolamine, Fragrance, Panthenol, Sunset yellow
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Both are correct, it is an occlusive and it can build up. I wouldn't use that product because the second and third ingredients can both build up and are both super cheap, for me the formulation has too much of an eye on profit and not enough on good hair. The price is outrageous for the ingredients given it's primarily water, baby oil and generic Vaseline!
Mineral Oil Versus Coconut Oil: Which is better?
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If you want to use good products to seal you hair, try Softee coconut oil or Indian hemp oil. Both are really good. The Indian hemp oil smells really good.
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Wow...that product is like my worst nightmare.

In addition to the mineral oil and petrolatum build up, the argan oil and polyquat would join the party.

Mineral oil also makes my hair frizzy and petrolatum is too heavy and gives me sad limp curls. Almost like crimpy waves.

Of course this is all specific to my hair and to others this product might reduce frizz and lock in moisture.
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And the price is outrageous for the ingredients!
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I just use those oils on my scalp or to seal my ends. No gunky roots cuz I don't use a lot .
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:27 PM   #7
 
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With those ingredients, I'm not sure why it would be of interest to you. I wouldn't use it (or buy it.) Those are really cheap ingredients--and they are charging $24!

Your K-Pak also has mineral oil in it. So, you may want to try something else.
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Ridiculously expensive based on the ingredients, and I think would be much too heavy for your hair anyway.

My hair doesn't like mineral oil on its own, but I've used the K-Pak and it was fine. Supposedly CO will remove mineral oil, or at least I know people who use MO regularly and also CO who say it works for them. I don't find MO to be as good as natural oils (camellia is my favorite, followed by argan), so I don't recommend it, but some swear by it. If you want to find out how your hair does with it, I'd use MO by itself, just a drop or two, and see what you think. That way, you won't have other ingredients to sort out along with the MO.
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Old 06-28-2013, 04:33 PM   #9
 
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Ty all! Ill pass on it
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:22 PM   #10
 
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I agree with everyone else. All these negative products that leave nothing but build-up, yet costs $24. It reminds me of the Miss Jessie's products! Her stuff costs so much money (ranging from $20-$60) and a lot of her stuff is filled with silicones, petrolatum, and mineral oil. I think that is one of the best things about learning ingredients- you not only help your hair, but you save your wallet!
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I agree with everyone else. All these negative products that leave nothing but build-up, yet costs $24. It reminds me of the Miss Jessie's products! Her stuff costs so much money (ranging from $20-$60) and a lot of her stuff is filled with silicones, petrolatum, and mineral oil. I think that is one of the best things about learning ingredients- you not only help your hair, but you save your wallet!

I was just about to say it sounds like Miss Jessie's products! All that money for Dax hair grease! LoL! Some say it works wonders, but I'm not sure if they've ever TRIED just hair grease to see if it works as well..

Anyway, I can't use anything with mineral oil or petrolatum. It just makes my hair hard, dry AND greasy at the same time. Not cute at ALL!! LoL!
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:58 AM   #12
 
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I will pipe in to say this - MO is a mixed bag. For some it's a god-send. For some it's a nightmare.

It seems properties play a big part here. Porous curlies tend to like it more often, and low porous curlies tend to have problems with it more often.

My hair is highly porous, and sealing with some MO has been an amazing solution for me. It's become an HG. I have no issues with build-up, but I do low-poo every now and then, as well. (However during times when I've gone strictly co-wash I never had any issues, either.)

I think a lot of it is in how you use it, and in amounts.

That being said - I would not try that product, either! Lol! Too pricey, and I already put MO in my hair, so I don't use it in products very much. (Though I've used the k-pak with no issues.)

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I agree with everyone else. All these negative products that leave nothing but build-up, yet costs $24. It reminds me of the Miss Jessie's products! Her stuff costs so much money (ranging from $20-$60) and a lot of her stuff is filled with silicones, petrolatum, and mineral oil. I think that is one of the best things about learning ingredients- you not only help your hair, but you save your wallet!

I was just about to say it sounds like Miss Jessie's products! All that money for Dax hair grease! LoL! Some say it works wonders, but I'm not sure if they've ever TRIED just hair grease to see if it works as well..

Anyway, I can't use anything with mineral oil or petrolatum. It just makes my hair hard, dry AND greasy at the same time. Not cute at ALL!! LoL!
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Also, I wanted to add, regarding the Miss Jessie's, I hope I didn't sound like I am bashing the brand. I know some people who love it (I personally didn't). I just wanted to make the point that it's so expensive, yet it has all those ingredients that aren't good nor anything 'special' (I will subtract the mineral oil since it's a love/hate with some people lol). With this product, you don't want to spend all that money and something cheaper could be a better alternative for you. I just wanted to make sure I didn't come off negative or anything.

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Samantha, you don't have to worry about bashing! I feel that way about the Deva line... I've never tried it but looking at the ingredients it really doesn't seem all that special. But it's soooooo much money! You can get similar or better products for so much cheaper! Not bashing the brand either, just sayin.

Yes, it absolutely does save your wallet to research products and ingredients and make purchases based on informed decisions.
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Deva was a disaster in my hair. Never tried Miss Jessie's, but haven't really had a desire to, either.

I usually don't spend more than $10 on a hair product, and if I do, it had better be magic! Lol!
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Deva was a disaster in my hair. Never tried Miss Jessie's, but haven't really had a desire to, either.

I usually don't spend more than $10 on a hair product, and if I do, it had better be magic! Lol!
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Samantha, you don't have to worry about bashing! I feel that way about the Deva line... I've never tried it but looking at the ingredients it really doesn't seem all that special. But it's soooooo much money! You can get similar or better products for so much cheaper! Not bashing the brand either, just sayin.

Yes, it absolutely does save your wallet to research products and ingredients and make purchases based on informed decisions.
Not going to lie, I do love deva, but it's true there is better stuff and it's VERY expensive! And yes Jas, it sure better be magic if it's more than $10, I do agree on that! LOL
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:07 PM   #18
 
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Yay!! Love a fellow frugal curly!!

Some people LOVE Deva. When the stylist used it on me, my hair felt gummy and weighed down. Definitely not touchable!! I rinsed and conditioned immediately when I got home!
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Yay!! Love a fellow frugal curly!!

Some people LOVE Deva. When the stylist used it on me, my hair felt gummy and weighed down. Definitely not touchable!! I rinsed and conditioned immediately when I got home!
YAY! I even feel dumb purchasing the KCKT (great detANgler, but found out the ingredients don't truly correspond as a 'leave in'). But I just went back to TN and LOVE IT and especially for $4! lol

It definitely shows how different products react extremely differently! The funny thing is though, I love the One Condition, but Yes to Carrots (which is 10x cheaper) does the same exact job for detangling. I just would love to find an alternative for the gel.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:42 PM   #20
 
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Shoot! Someone made a gel comparison to that but I can't recall what it was!! I want to say it was a gel found at Sally's, but I can't remember! If I do I'll pass it on!
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RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
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