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Old 07-01-2013, 11:46 AM   #1
 
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Default Looking for a store brand clarifying poo

I need to start from square one, and just realized that my clarifying poo has polyquats. I don't know if that's the source of any of my issues, but I figure if I'm going to clarify, I might as well see if polyquats are a contributing factor. I plan to do a PT and DT tonight so I need to be able to pick the poo up at the grocery store tonight. Thanks!
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:59 AM   #2
 
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I'm looking for the same thing. I bought the Suave Daily Clarifying shampoo at lunch and I thought I had scanned for polyquats, but all the online listings say it has polyquat 10.
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:05 PM   #3
 
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For a more gentle clarifier, what about Yes to Blueberries?

Water, Sodium Coco Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Xanthan Gum, Vaccinium Angustifolium (Blueberry) Fruit Extract, Stearyl Dihydroxypropyldimonium Oligosaccharides, Lupine Amino Acids, Trifolium Pratense (Clover) Flower Extract, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Extract, Daucus Carota Sativa (Carrot) Seed Oil (Certified Organic Ingredient), Ipomoea Batatas Root Lees Extract, Cetyl Alcohol, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Fragrance (100% Natural Fragrance), Citric Acid, Phenoxyethanol

For harsh clarifiers:

How about the Neutrogena shampoo- anti residue formula?

Neutrogena Shampoo, Anti-Residue Formula | drugstore.com

Water, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Chloride, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Glycerin, PEG 40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Citric Acid, DMDM Hydantoin, Fragrance

OR Prell Classic

Water, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Cocamide DEA, Ammonium Xylenesulfonate, Fragrance, Sodium Phosphate, Disodium Phosphate, EDTA, Benzophenone-2, Sodium Chloride, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, D&C Green No. 8, FD&C Blue No. 1.
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Old 07-01-2013, 01:16 PM   #4
 
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Thanks Chloe! If I understand correctly, you need a sulfate to remove polyquats so the Yes to Blueberries won't do the trick, but the other two will.
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Thanks. Is it EDTA that removes mineral buildup? Or is that something else?
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Thanks. Is it EDTA that removes mineral buildup? Or is that something else?

Yes, EDTA.
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Make sure that whatever shampoo you use says clarifying on it. According to my natural stylist, the clarifying poo is different than a regular poo. If you get a regular poo, it won't clarify your scalp because chemically that's not what a regular poo is designed to do. So yes to blueberries won't work but the suave poo & the Giovanni clarifying poo will get the job done. That's what my stylist recommended to me.
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Make sure that whatever shampoo you use says clarifying on it. According to my natural stylist, the clarifying poo is different than a regular poo. If you get a regular poo, it won't clarify your scalp because chemically that's not what a regular poo is designed to do. So yes to blueberries won't work but the suave poo & the Giovanni clarifying poo will get the job done. That's what my stylist recommended to me.
I can't see any logic in your stylist's claim, we aren't talking about regular shampoos here, since regular shampoos contain ingredients that are intended to be adhere to hair and can build up but Curly Girls avoid those anyway.

There is nothing that will build up in the Yes to Blueberries and the second ingredient is a a sulphate surfactant so I strongly suspect it will clarify just fine. Having said that I'd choose the Giovanni because it's sulphate free and low on anionics.
Giovanni, 50:50 Balanced Hydrating-Clarifying Shampoo, 8.5 fl oz (250 ml) - iHerb.com

Why would a scalp need clarifying? Scalp sheds skin cells all the time anyway so is not likely to suffer product build up as hair can. Scalps can get sebum or skin cell build up if there is a sensitivity or skin disorder, but harsh commercial shampoos are not the solution to that, they are likely to worsen the problem.


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Thanks Chloe! If I understand correctly, you need a sulfate to remove polyquats so the Yes to Blueberries won't do the trick, but the other two will.
The second ingredient in the Yes to Blueberries is a sulphate surfactant.
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Old 07-01-2013, 02:25 PM   #9
 
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A quick Google search revealed that Polyquaternium-10 is easily soluble in water. Some polyquats will build up, but not this one.
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Make sure that whatever shampoo you use says clarifying on it. According to my natural stylist, the clarifying poo is different than a regular poo. If you get a regular poo, it won't clarify your scalp because chemically that's not what a regular poo is designed to do. So yes to blueberries won't work but the suave poo & the Giovanni clarifying poo will get the job done. That's what my stylist recommended to me.
I can't see any logic in your stylist's claim, we aren't talking about regular shampoos here, since regular shampoos contain ingredients that are intended to be adhere to hair and can build up but Curly Girls avoid those anyway.

There is nothing that will build up in the Yes to Blueberries and the second ingredient is a a sulphate surfactant so I strongly suspect it will clarify just fine. Having said that I'd choose the Giovanni because it's sulphate free and low on anionics.
Giovanni, 50:50 Balanced Hydrating-Clarifying Shampoo, 8.5 fl oz (250 ml) - iHerb.com

Why would a scalp need clarifying? Scalp sheds skin cells all the time anyway so is not likely to suffer product build up as hair can. Scalps can get sebum or skin cell build up if there is a sensitivity or skin disorder, but harsh commercial shampoos are not the solution to that, they are likely to worsen the problem.


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Thanks Chloe! If I understand correctly, you need a sulfate to remove polyquats so the Yes to Blueberries won't do the trick, but the other two will.
The second ingredient in the Yes to Blueberries is a sulphate surfactant.
LOL I was going to say, too, how Yes to Blueberries has a surfactant! Then I saw your comment and it reassured me lol.
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Suave Naturals Daily Clarifying does not have a polyquat.
Looking for a store brand clarifying poo-uploadfromtaptalk1372713251528.jpg
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A quick Google search revealed that Polyquaternium-10 is easily soluble in water. Some polyquats will build up, but not this one.
Unfortunately, that hasn't been my experience. I've need to use a stronger surfactant to remove it.
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Thanks everyone. I ended up getting the Giovanni clarifying poo. Tonight I am clarifying then doing a PT and a DT. Tomorrow I am going to try out conditioner only styling since everything else I own has polyquats and/or humectants.
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I used pure and clean garnier
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