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Old 07-11-2013, 10:09 AM   #1
 
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Default Is Gud (from Burt's Bees) CG approved?

I've never tried these, but they're paraben-free and phthalate-free, as well as they don't contain any petrochemicals. Given the scents I'm interested in, here are the ingredients for both the shampoo and conditioner:

Vanilla Flame Natural Nourishing Shampoo
Water, sodium coco-sulfate, sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, oryza sativa (rice) extract, fragrance, sodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, glycerin, betaine, hibiscus sabdariffa flower*, mentha piperita (peppermint) leaf extract*, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) leaf extract*, urtica dioica (nettle) leaf extract*, origanum vulgare leaf oil*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil*, sodium lauroyl lactylate, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, polyglyceryl-4 caprate, sodium chloride, disodium cocoyl glutamate, potassium sorbate, lactic acid, xanthan gum, sodium polyaspartate, sodium cocoyl, glutamate, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, arginine, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, ascorbic acid, citric acid, alcohol denat. *Organic.

Vanilla Flame Natural Softening Conditioner
Water, cetearyl alcohol, fragrance, ceteareth-20, glycerin, phenoxyethanol, helianthus annuus (sunflower) seed oil, hibiscus sabdariffa flower*, mentha piperita (peppermint) leaf extract*, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) leaf extract*, urtica dioica (nettle) leaf extract*, glycerin, behentrimonium methosulfate, stearalkonium chloride, potassium sorbate, citric acid, alcohol denat. *Organic.

Pearanormal Activity Natural Nourishing Shampoo
Water, sodium coco-sulfate, sodium bis- hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, oryza sativa (rice) extract, fragrance, sodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, glycerin, betaine, hibiscus sabdariffa flower*, mentha piperita (peppermint) leaf extract*, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) leaf extract*, urtica dioica (nettle) leaf extract*, origanum vulgare leaf oil*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil*, sodium lauroyl lactylate, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, polyglyceryl-4 caprate, sodium chloride, disodium cocoyl glutamate, potassium sorbate, lactic acid, xanthan gum, sodium polyaspartate, sodium cocoyl glutamate, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, arginine, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, ascorbic acid, citric acid, alcohol denat. *Organic.

Pearanormal Activity Natural Softening Conditioner
Water, cetearyl alcohol, fragrance, ceteareth-20, glycerin, phenoxyethanol, helianthus annuus (sunflower) seed oil, hibiscus sabdariffa flower*, mentha piperita (peppermint) leaf extract*, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) leaf extract*, urtica dioica (nettle) leaf extract*, glycerin, behentrimonium methosulfate, stearalkonium chloride, potassium sorbate, citric acid, alcohol denat. *Organic.
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I've never tried these, but they're paraben-free and phthalate-free, as well as they don't contain any petrochemicals. Given the scents I'm interested in, here are the ingredients for both the shampoo and conditioner:

Vanilla Flame Natural Nourishing Shampoo
Water, sodium coco-sulfate, sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, oryza sativa (rice) extract, fragrance, sodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, glycerin, betaine, hibiscus sabdariffa flower*, mentha piperita (peppermint) leaf extract*, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) leaf extract*, urtica dioica (nettle) leaf extract*, origanum vulgare leaf oil*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil*, sodium lauroyl lactylate, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, polyglyceryl-4 caprate, sodium chloride, disodium cocoyl glutamate, potassium sorbate, lactic acid, xanthan gum, sodium polyaspartate, sodium cocoyl, glutamate, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, arginine, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, ascorbic acid, citric acid, alcohol denat. *Organic.

Vanilla Flame Natural Softening Conditioner
Water, cetearyl alcohol, fragrance, ceteareth-20, glycerin, phenoxyethanol, helianthus annuus (sunflower) seed oil, hibiscus sabdariffa flower*, mentha piperita (peppermint) leaf extract*, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) leaf extract*, urtica dioica (nettle) leaf extract*, glycerin, behentrimonium methosulfate, stearalkonium chloride, potassium sorbate, citric acid, alcohol denat. *Organic.

Pearanormal Activity Natural Nourishing Shampoo
Water, sodium coco-sulfate, sodium bis- hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, oryza sativa (rice) extract, fragrance, sodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, glycerin, betaine, hibiscus sabdariffa flower*, mentha piperita (peppermint) leaf extract*, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) leaf extract*, urtica dioica (nettle) leaf extract*, origanum vulgare leaf oil*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil*, sodium lauroyl lactylate, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, polyglyceryl-4 caprate, sodium chloride, disodium cocoyl glutamate, potassium sorbate, lactic acid, xanthan gum, sodium polyaspartate, sodium cocoyl glutamate, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, arginine, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, ascorbic acid, citric acid, alcohol denat. *Organic.

Pearanormal Activity Natural Softening Conditioner
Water, cetearyl alcohol, fragrance, ceteareth-20, glycerin, phenoxyethanol, helianthus annuus (sunflower) seed oil, hibiscus sabdariffa flower*, mentha piperita (peppermint) leaf extract*, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract*, thymus vulgaris (thyme) leaf extract*, urtica dioica (nettle) leaf extract*, glycerin, behentrimonium methosulfate, stearalkonium chloride, potassium sorbate, citric acid, alcohol denat. *Organic.
Sulphate surfactants: not so bothered about the drying alcohol, it's probably just a carrier for fragrance or a plant extract. Awful lot of unnecessary and potentially irritating plant extracts.
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Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
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Sulphate surfactants: not so bothered about the drying alcohol, it's probably just a carrier for fragrance or a plant extract. Awful lot of unnecessary and potentially irritating plant extracts.
Thanks! Looks like Organix or Renpure are my best budget bets for low-poo shampoos that are readily available!
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Which ones? There are silicones in some of the products from both lines, also oils/ butters that are likely to be rich in oleic acid tho may not be enough to cause a problem if they are right at the bottom of the ingredients lists. It's a minefield out there.
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CO-wash: Inecto coconut
Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:58 PM   #5
 
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RIP Burt's Bees... my first CG brand.

Actually I'm being dramatic, the ^conditioners look fine. I'm just sad that they would have a line w/ sodium coco-sulfate. Boo!

Ehhhh companies get bigger, they change. Luckily many of their other products are still good.
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Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni 2chic BK&AO
RO: TN Radiant Care, Giovanni SaS, Ogx BKT*, Sukin Nourishing, SS Caitlin's, various
LI: sometimes TN Radiant Care
Styler: FSG with CNPF, CJ Pattern Pusha, Volumax Mega, Ouidad Climate Control*, Ogx BKT serum*
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

*have cones
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RIP Burt's Bees... my first CG brand.

Actually I'm being dramatic, the ^conditioners look fine. I'm just sad that they would have a line w/ sodium coco-sulfate. Boo!

Ehhhh companies get bigger, they change. Luckily many of their other products are still good.
Not entirely true, this is their Gud line. It seems like it's targeted towards people who want more traditional behaving/smelling shampoos and conditioners, but less processed ingredients. They still have their normal line, which they have actually reformulated to be more gentle.

Fore example: More Moisture Baobab Shampoo

aqua (water, eau), sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, sodium cocoyl alaninate, glycerin, disodium cocoyl glutamate, sodium lauroyl lactylate, oryza sativa (rice) extract, adansonia digitata oil, theobroma grandiflorum seed butter, origanum vulgare leaf oil, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, arginine, sodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, sodium polyaspartate, parfum (fragrance), xanthan gum, sodium cocoyl glutamate, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, sodium chloride, lactic acid, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, ascorbic acid, citric acid, potassium sorbate.
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RIP Burt's Bees... my first CG brand.

Actually I'm being dramatic, the ^conditioners look fine. I'm just sad that they would have a line w/ sodium coco-sulfate. Boo!

Ehhhh companies get bigger, they change. Luckily many of their other products are still good.
Not entirely true, this is their Gud line. It seems like it's targeted towards people who want more traditional behaving/smelling shampoos and conditioners, but less processed ingredients. They still have their normal line, which they have actually reformulated to be more gentle.

Fore example: More Moisture Baobab Shampoo

aqua (water, eau), sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, sodium cocoyl alaninate, glycerin, disodium cocoyl glutamate, sodium lauroyl lactylate, oryza sativa (rice) extract, adansonia digitata oil, theobroma grandiflorum seed butter, origanum vulgare leaf oil, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, arginine, sodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, sodium polyaspartate, parfum (fragrance), xanthan gum, sodium cocoyl glutamate, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, sodium chloride, lactic acid, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, ascorbic acid, citric acid, potassium sorbate.

Their Baobab shampoo smells awful! The older More Moisture poo was Raspberry, which I used for a long time, until it was discontinued. Oh well. I've found better low-poos since anyway.

I hear you, but the fact that they do have a Gud line means that they are trying to go more commercial using cheaper sulphate surfactants. I don't understand why the Gud shampoos can't also be sulphate-free? Cocamidopropyl betaine can get rid of cones, oil buildup etc. but is still gentler on the scalp than sulphates hence a superior ingredient all around IMHO.
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fine - low porosity - medium density - normal elasticity. Very high dews. Soft water.

Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni 2chic BK&AO
RO: TN Radiant Care, Giovanni SaS, Ogx BKT*, Sukin Nourishing, SS Caitlin's, various
LI: sometimes TN Radiant Care
Styler: FSG with CNPF, CJ Pattern Pusha, Volumax Mega, Ouidad Climate Control*, Ogx BKT serum*
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

*have cones
underline = I love these!

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RIP Burt's Bees... my first CG brand.

Actually I'm being dramatic, the ^conditioners look fine. I'm just sad that they would have a line w/ sodium coco-sulfate. Boo!

Ehhhh companies get bigger, they change. Luckily many of their other products are still good.
Not entirely true, this is their Gud line. It seems like it's targeted towards people who want more traditional behaving/smelling shampoos and conditioners, but less processed ingredients. They still have their normal line, which they have actually reformulated to be more gentle.

Fore example: More Moisture Baobab Shampoo

aqua (water, eau), sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, sodium cocoyl alaninate, glycerin, disodium cocoyl glutamate, sodium lauroyl lactylate, oryza sativa (rice) extract, adansonia digitata oil, theobroma grandiflorum seed butter, origanum vulgare leaf oil, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, arginine, sodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, sodium polyaspartate, parfum (fragrance), xanthan gum, sodium cocoyl glutamate, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, sodium chloride, lactic acid, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, ascorbic acid, citric acid, potassium sorbate.

Their Baobab shampoo smells awful! The older More Moisture poo was Raspberry, which I used for a long time, until it was discontinued. Oh well. I've found better low-poos since anyway.

I hear you, but the fact that they do have a Gud line means that they are trying to go more commercial using cheaper sulphate surfactants. I don't understand why the Gud shampoos can't also be sulphate-free? Cocamidopropyl betaine can get rid of cones, oil buildup etc. but is still gentler on the scalp than sulphates hence a superior ingredient all around IMHO.
If you have to ask that questions you should check out the reviews. Some people will never be happy without a sulfate foam fest and that squeaky clean feeling. We all know clean hair doesn't need sulfates, but the general pop doesn't feel that way. Not even the tree hugging variety.

I've never smelled it, but that's generally what happens when you try to apply fragrance to certain botanical ingredients. It's why I hate scented sunscreens. Chemical sunscreen will always smell like sunscreen. Attempting to cover it up just makes it worse. I'm a big girl, I can handle it.
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If you have to ask that questions you should check out the reviews. Some people will never be happy without a sulfate foam fest and that squeaky clean feeling. We all know clean hair doesn't need sulfates, but the general pop doesn't feel that way. Not even the tree hugging variety.
LMAO sulfate foam fest!

::sigh::
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Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni 2chic BK&AO
RO: TN Radiant Care, Giovanni SaS, Ogx BKT*, Sukin Nourishing, SS Caitlin's, various
LI: sometimes TN Radiant Care
Styler: FSG with CNPF, CJ Pattern Pusha, Volumax Mega, Ouidad Climate Control*, Ogx BKT serum*
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

*have cones
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