Should I do a PT or a clarifier to fix this?

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Or both? Woke up with my hair looking quite different than usual, although I felt like something was up yesterday and even the day before. My hair has been acting strangely. This is second day hair. It's much more 2C than 3A (curls are a lot looser) and it feels strangely weighed down even though my hair isn't producty at all. I can tell by the decrease in volume, which is fine, but also kind of suspicious. So does this mean I'm overconditioned? One time I thought I was overconditioned but back then my hair was super tangly and very curly/voluminous and it turned out I just had product buildup. Also I clarified 2 weeks ago already. (I tend to only need to clarify every two months.) And then my hair isn't acting frizzy or flyaway or hovering over my head like a cloud. It's just a lot looser and maybe limper than it used to be. So I'm thinking: A) Maybe my hair needs some protein? or B) Maybe is reacting to this strange turn of humidity we've had going on here the past couple of days? (Dew has been around 60-63, although it doesn't feel that much different and my hair isn't frizzing out.) If that is the case, maybe I don't need to do a PT or clarify. Maybe I need to use less leave in for the next couple of days and if that doesn't work, try a hard hold gel? I usually do mostly conditioner styling with a pinch of gelly these days. Might not be enough for the weather. . .

P.S. I know it's hard to tell what my hair is doing definition wise since it's black and all but I can see it, and just to describe it in a nutshell: Looser curls. Less volume. Feels sort of limp and soft but no softer than usual. If I pull a curl it still bounces back but it seems rather tired. Still looks good though. Totally not complaining. I love my post CG hair in any state really. Just sort of a headscratcher here as my hair is usually very predictable.
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Last edited by dusalocks; 07-11-2013 at 02:29 PM.
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Seeing how your porous trying a bit more protein probably can't hurt.

Also you should probably make sure your sealing your hair properly so your it can resist the humidity and then double check your leave-ins and stylers for humectants.

If you're using all you regular products and you're on your typical schedule, then I'm with you in believing it's not build up.

*PS Your hair still looks 3a and considering that's it's more 3a/b, in my opinion, a little humidity couldn't make it wavy...if that's comforting to you at all.

Last edited by Jessiebanana; 07-11-2013 at 02:49 PM.
To me, limp hair says more protein needed rather than buildup. When I get buildup it feels...well, built up (gee, how helpful). Coated, gunky--know what I mean? It also often feels like buildup when there is a sudden uptick in humidity. If your hair generally does well with protein, I'd go ahead and try a protein treatment and see if that improves things.
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To seal I generally mix some GSO or jojoba with my leave in. Is there a better way for summer humidity? You're probably right about the humectants. I've never troubled myself about them before because my hair was like, "Come one, come all!" Trouble is, all of my go to products have humectacts. SMCES, SMCSM, KCCC, CJPP. . . And here I thought my product junkie days were over. (Sigh.) I think I might have to whip up a batch of humectant free FSG and see if that makes a difference. Maybe I can add a tbsp of coconut oil to it to act as a leave in would and skip the leave in altogether. But I guess I'll be cracking some eggs later tonight for my PT. Been a whileeee since I did a PT. Unless you count mayonnaise.
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Remember, protein needs go up as the dewpoint goes up!
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I don't seal, having low porosity in a very moderate dew point climate, I find it does more harm than good. I rely on the oils in my conditioner and leave-in. I'd point to other more porous curlies for good techniques.
To me, limp hair says more protein needed rather than buildup. When I get buildup it feels...well, built up (gee, how helpful). Coated, gunky--know what I mean? It also often feels like buildup when there is a sudden uptick in humidity. If your hair generally does well with protein, I'd go ahead and try a protein treatment and see if that improves things.
Originally Posted by CurlyInTheFog
Yeah, that's why I'm leaning towards a PT too. My hair isn't coated or gunky which would be a dead giveaway. I'm coarse but I've found while my hair doesn't care for too much protein, my hair can tolerate certain kinds of protein, such as silk (not hydrolyzed), in stylers. And with rinseouts it's all right as well. So long as it's not wheat protein which my hair really dislikes. The last time I did a PT my hair came out starchy and dry although the overnight DT afterwards fixed it and when I styled my hair felt good. I think I'll try that again.
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*PS Your hair still looks 3a and considering that's it's more 3a/b, in my opinion, a little humidity couldn't make it wavy...if that's comforting to you at all.
Originally Posted by Jessiebanana
Aw thanks. Yes, I don't know what it is but I'd swear it came out curlier in the picture than it looks in real life. But my hair is naturally a very loose curl/bordering on wave which is why root curl is probably hit and miss with me. It kind of runs the gambit from 2C-3B. To be clear 2's, I love wavy hair too and am always trying to figure out a way to get that 2B/2C beachwave look without the frizz which is tricky. But I think my hair is acting weird. Less bouncy. I like my bounce! So maybe it's the lack of volume around the crown and ears that's bothering me most. Usually the hair there bounces up and frames the face. I tried to find my afro pick because I figured if I was gonna have wavier hair today, I'd need the volume to balance it out make it look good. But the pick has gone missing. Might have to go to Sally's.
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I think protein is drying to most people's hair. Whether your hair like protein I think has more to do with the effect. PTs have no positive effect on my hair. They don't add bounce and can actually ruin my curl, with continued use. If protein is giving your hair more bounce and spring, even if you have to follow it up with a DT, I would say you hair likes/needs a PT every now and then.
But I guess I'll be cracking some eggs later tonight for my PT. Been a whileeee since I did a PT. Unless you count mayonnaise.
Originally Posted by dusalocks
Try the gelatin PT instead (a better protein)! You can do the quick mild version and see if your condition improves!
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To seal I generally mix some GSO or jojoba with my leave in. Is there a better way for summer humidity? You're probably right about the humectants. I've never troubled myself about them before because my hair was like, "Come one, come all!" Trouble is, all of my go to products have humectacts. SMCES, SMCSM, KCCC, CJPP. . . And here I thought my product junkie days were over. (Sigh.) I think I might have to whip up a batch of humectant free FSG and see if that makes a difference. Maybe I can add a tbsp of coconut oil to it to act as a leave in would and skip the leave in altogether. But I guess I'll be cracking some eggs later tonight for my PT. Been a whileeee since I did a PT. Unless you count mayonnaise.
Originally Posted by dusalocks
Egg protein are too large to penetrate the hair, and likely too large to adhere much either. If eggs do anything they are either cleansing or depositing lipids, they do have a fair bit in common with the hair lipids (saturates, oleic acid, cholesterol).

Commercial mayonnaise definitely wouldn't class as a protein treatment, it's largely vegetable oil with very little egg/ protein. Try hydrolysed protein, if you want something natural use gelatin. I get very different results from protein treatments that dry on hair to those in an emollient base, been experimenting lately with a shower cap to allow the protein to diffuse in instead of dry on and build up on the surface.
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Last edited by Firefox7275; 07-11-2013 at 03:42 PM.
I would say that you need less leave in if any at all in the summer months (or for me anyway). Also I tend to use a "filler" instead of leave ins. For example I would cowash and rinse out all my oyher conditioner. Then I would apply my filler (in this case FSG), then apply my gel. Scrunch, then plop for 30-hour. I would take my hair down, let it air dry, and then scrunch out the crunch or leave it. This should help, I was having a similiar issue and I suspect I was doing more harm then good with my leave ins and deep treatments (I'll save more of my sealing and leave ins for winter).

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I personally would never skip a leave-in, especially since I style with a gel, but I get your point. I've stopped DC'ing. In the summer it's just too much for my hair and my hair gets overly soft and limp.

I can't layer gels, even with my FSG my hair would be super crispy.

Egg protein are too large to penetrate the hair, and likely too large to adhere much either. If eggs do anything they are either cleansing or depositing lipids, they do have a fair bit in common with the hair lipids (saturates, oleic acid, cholesterol).
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
Yeah, I remember you saying this but I gotta say, Firefox, eggs must have penetrated my hair. The last time I did a PT it was just eggs and a bit of oil which I left in for a full hour and my hair reacted as expected for a coarse gal using protein when she probably didn't need it. It was super duper stiff and starchy and for a second I was all, "What have I done?" And then I remembered I was going to follow up with a DT anyways so I let that sit all night and then the next day when I rinsed I was all right. Back to normal. And what of all the fine haired gals who swear by their weekly egg PTs and who report that their curl pattern gets stronger as a result of it? There can't be that many people swearing by eggs if it didn't do anything. I have a friend with super fine straight hair who uses egg DTs often and she reports it gives her stronger hair and a bit more volume. More of a 1C than a 1B flip going on.

But aside from that, thank you and wavydaze for reminding me about gelatin. I have some knox gelatin in my medicine cabinet hidden behind a bottle of Nyquil and I guess since it was out of sight and mind I'd forgotten about it. Gonna try that. First the 15 minute routine and if that doesn't take another 15 minutes maybe the next time I wash.

Sidenote: This weather is freaky. It's so overcast smack in the middle of July and the heat fluctuations the past few weeks, 85* one day and 100* the next! Hello, global warming. You're scaring my curls.
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Last edited by dusalocks; 07-11-2013 at 07:07 PM.
I would say that you need less leave in if any at all in the summer months (or for me anyway). Also I tend to use a "filler" instead of leave ins. For example I would cowash and rinse out all my oyher conditioner. Then I would apply my filler (in this case FSG), then apply my gel. Scrunch, then plop for 30-hour. I would take my hair down, let it air dry, and then scrunch out the crunch or leave it. This should help, I was having a similiar issue and I suspect I was doing more harm then good with my leave ins and deep treatments (I'll save more of my sealing and leave ins for winter).


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Originally Posted by bringingcurliesback?
Okay Jessiebanana and bringingcurliesback, I'm going to try DT-ing less. That might be the problem perhaps. It's funny at first I was needing to DT more this summer because of the sun (it really does a number on my hair) but maybe I'll see how long I can go without DTing. Also, if I skip the leave in, I was expecting to use FSG alone. For me it's just a styler, not a filler. But do you mean to say you couple it with KCCC on top?
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Yeah, I remember you saying this but I gotta say, Firefox, eggs must have penetrated my hair. The last time I did a PT it was just eggs and a bit of oil which I left in for a full hour and my hair reacted as expected for a coarse gal using protein when she probably didn't need it. It was super duper stiff and starchy and for a second I was all, "What have I done?" And then I remembered I was going to follow up with a DT anyways so I let that sit all night and then the next day when I rinsed I was all right. Back to normal. And what of all the fine haired gals who swear by their weekly egg PTs and who report that their curl pattern gets stronger as a result of it? There can't be that many people swearing by eggs if it didn't do anything. I have a friend with super fine straight hair who uses egg DTs often and she reports it gives her stronger hair and a bit more volume. More of a 1C than a 1B flip going on.

But aside from that, thank you and wavydaze for reminding me about gelatin. I have some knox gelatin in my medicine cabinet hidden behind a bottle of Nyquil and I guess since it was out of sight and mind I'd forgotten about it. Gonna try that. First the 15 minute routine and if that doesn't take another 15 minutes maybe the next time I wash.
Originally Posted by dusalocks
I didn't say whole eggs don't do anything, I said egg protein is too large to penetrate and likely too large to bond to hair. If you don't rinse it off thoroughly or it reacts with something already coating your hair many results are possible from acting as 'styling gel' to blocking over conditioning, that is not evidence it has penetrated. An egg white 'face mask' dries tight and hard like a glue, people also use egg whites to create mohawks and other gravity defying hairstyles.

As far as I can see most people who do egg treatments don't use straight up egg protein, they use whole egg including the lipid rich yolk and invariably doctor the mix with at least one other ingredient. Ingredients like honey that can boost curl, or oils that can increase capillary adhesion and clumping and/ or penetrate increasing elasticity or reducing porosity.

What of the people using mayonnaise who swear up and down the miniscule amount of egg containing an even more miniscule amount of protein is a protein treatment? Why isn't everyone who egg washes ending up with stiff overproteined hair?

"Size Matters
Just before moving on, let me just say that even hydrolysed protein has an ideal size for use:

For collagen hydrosylates for example, this is a molecular weight of 2000 (Book reference - Conditioning agents for hair and skin By Randy Schueller, Perry Romanowski).

For wheat hydrosylates this is around 5000-10000 ( Book reference -Principles of Polymer Science and Technology in Cosmetics and Personal Care By Errol Desmond Goddard, James V. Gruber).

The problem is that I have not seen a single protein conditioner actually state the molecular weight. The protein part of eggs (egg white/egg albumin) has a molecular weight of approximately 33000- 40000 (The Journal of Biological Chemistry, pg 189-193, 1939). I can't find a reference for hydrolysed egg albumin size but I would strongly suspect that this molecular weight is too large to be beneficial
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THE NATURAL HAVEN: Size matters : Protein Conditioning (part 1 of 2)

Shape may also be a limiting factor, remember that the only fatty acids that can penetrate hair are linear, polyunsaturated cannot due to their shape.
"Proteins are made of long chains of amino acids. The proteins in an egg white are globular proteins, which means that the long protein molecule is twisted and folded and curled up into a more or less spherical shape. A variety of weak chemical bonds keep the protein curled up tight as it drifts placidly in the water that surrounds it. "
http://www.exploratorium.edu/cooking...ggscience.html

Sorry if the above is blunter than normal, I don't in any way intend to be rude, I am insomniac and it's 6am so my thought processes are more linear and to the point than usual!
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Last edited by Firefox7275; 07-11-2013 at 10:31 PM.
Recently, I have been using CO as a leave in and then KCCC on top. I second the gelatin PT.
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Sorry if the above is blunter than normal, I don't in any way intend to be rude, I am insomniac and it's 6am so my thought processes are more linear and to the point than usual!
Originally Posted by dusalocks
No, it's fine. I know you don't. You're just trying to express your POV which I inquired about in the first place. (I kind of wanted to get a look at your research and reasoning.) Much thanks. But nevertheless, I know what happened to my hair and how it reacted. It's sort how I don't believe coconut oil acts as a protein because it's just an oil. All the protein has been removed. And yet there are curlies who attest that products containing coconut oil are problematic for their hair and act "like a protein". Well, okay. I'm not in their shoes so, how could I know for certain? Hair types are so different. It might be very well it's reacting adversely for some other reason, but so long as it's acting a certain way, those gals know to avoid it.

And as for the curlies whose hair doesn't react to eggs by getting starchy or stiff, might it not be because their hair is fine and likes the protein in the first place? I mean my friend who uses protein in her fine straight hair doesn't even have to use conditioner afterwards. She doesn't use conditioner period. Just shampoo. And the occasional egg, apparently. Rather than getting stiff, she reports her hair simply feels stronger. (Mine just felt stiff.) So I'd say in her case it must be adhering. But that's probably because she has baby fine hair that needs extra protein. And for the PT my hair was already cleansed when I applied it so the only thing it would've been reacting with was the olive oil which, admittedly, might've increased penetration in the first place. Oh and I've also seen an egg mask before and the cast they create. (It's not for me since egg smells so bad, but wow, is it great for the skin! Other ladies who don't mind the smell should look into it because my mother loves them and she does not look her age. She looks a good fifteen years younger.) I'll admit that might be indicative of the stiff feeling I got but it still felt dry and starchy after I'd rinsed and cleansed all the egg out. It wasn't until the following morning when the DC did its job that my hair was supple again.

Oh well. That was a spirited discussion. Sorry if I'm boring you, Firefox. And I definitely didn't mean to poke you with a stick at 6 am. I get insomnia too.

Update: Unfortunately I did not have enough time for the PT yesterday. Okay, I'll admit it, I was lazy. But my hair bounced back a bit today for whatever reason. (Um, probably the dew point.) More volume around the crown and ears so I was happy. Tonight I'm gonna wash and style and try just a dime size of coconut oil under KCCC and see if that makes a difference. If not, I'll be doing my gelatin PT Sunday night for 15 min. I'm also going to whip up some new FSG. Summer recipes, anyone? I just do plain FSG normally with aloe, vitamin, E, chamomile + horsemail tea, marshmallow root and some essential oils. I think I may skip the aloe and add some coconut oil.
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Update #2:

Still haven't done the PT yet because I keep forgetting to buy ACV and I want to do the PT properly so. . . maybe tomorrow. But a few questions. If anybody has ever experienced the sort of thing I've experienced, a sliding scale of volume and definition come summertime, I'd appreciate advice.


As an experiment I skipped the leave in and just styled with KCCC. This time it's like I almost got too much volume if you can believe it. So leave in weighed me down before, but this time I had nothing holding me back. Hair unbridled. It was curly but very fluffy too. I did calm it down with some FSG in second day hair and I guess it looked good because I got a compliment yesterday. But it was still a little too big compared to normal. My ringlets were looser so I guess there may have been a loss of definition there, but there weren't lazy or lank either. Just bigger. So today I washed again and I noticed when I did my hair was soooooo dry. I think it needs leave in. Coarse. High porosity. Type 3. All that jazz. So then I got out of the shower and checked the dew point and saw it was back in the 50's. Huzzah! Back to my regular routine, right? Nope. My hair felt slightly weighed down and flatter than usual with leave in + gelly. Just like a few days ago. Oh, well.

So should I use less leave in? I don't use much and I've got a lot of hair. It seems my hair needs leave in. Especially with the sun. Should I try a harder hold gel to keep it contained/defined if I use less leave in?

Hopefully the PT will adjust it by tomorrow night. Fingers crossed. I really don't want to have to buy any more products. Especially a hard hold gel. The made my hair feel so ick before.
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