Herbal Essences newold line, and drama clean

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Silicone free conditioner, have you seen their new sulfate free silicone free products (I used HE before going curly girl and miss their yummy smells) the new products bottle looks kinda old. I also saw a HE conditioner called DramaClean today, I've used the shampoo and now just seeing the conditioner i saw no silicones and and ready to purchase it

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Weekly Poo/Low Poo: some Shea M Poo.
Weekly Deep Treat-Dermorganic Intensive Hair Masque
Bi-Weekly RO:Tresseme Naturals - V.Smooth/N.Moisture
Daily Leave in:Shea Moisture Extra Moisture Detangler
Daily Oil: Olive Oil & Conut Oil Mix
Daily Styler: Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk
If you're talking about their Smooth collection and Shine collection shampoos /conditioners, several of us were initially excited about them since they were billed as silicone /sulfate free versions of their older products that smelled fantastic. When I checked ingredients at my local store, I found the shampoos were silicone free but contained sulfates, Sodium Laureth Sulfate and Sodium Lauryl Sulfate. The conditioners were sulfate free but contained silicones. The 'cones were Cyclopentasiloxane and Dimethicone, which has to be removed with a low poo. According to the Curl Chemist, the Cyclopentasiloxane is not water soluble but evaporates during the drying process and can be cowashed out. Maybe the ingredients in your local store are different, but these two lines were a total fail for me.

I haven't checked the Drama Clean ingredients in a while, but if I recall correctly, it had Bis Aminopropyl Dimethicone, which needs a low poo to remove. It does repel further layers once it's deposited onto the hair shaft though (like amodimethicone does), so it shouldn't build up.

If you're strict CG (don't low poo), I'd pass on both of these lines. If you do occasionally low poo, you might try the Drama Clean condish, and if you experience adverse results, you can simply low poo it out.
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2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

Autumn Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 KLS, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, L'Oreal Studio Clean gel, Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's as needed
Aww yes, that's what I was talking about.Thanks for the Info
If you're talking about their Smooth collection and Shine collection shampoos /conditioners, several of us were initially excited about them since they were billed as silicone /sulfate free versions of their older products that smelled fantastic. When I checked ingredients at my local store, I found the shampoos were silicone free but contained sulfates, Sodium Laureth Sulfate and Sodium Lauryl Sulfate. The conditioners were sulfate free but contained silicones. The 'cones were Cyclopentasiloxane and Dimethicone, which has to be removed with a low poo. According to the Curl Chemist, the Cyclopentasiloxane is not water soluble but evaporates during the drying process and can be cowashed out. Maybe the ingredients in your local store are different, but these two lines were a total fail for me.

I haven't checked the Drama Clean ingredients in a while, but if I recall correctly, it had Bis Aminopropyl Dimethicone, which needs a low poo to remove. It does repel further layers once it's deposited onto the hair shaft though (like amodimethicone does), so it shouldn't build up.

If you're strict CG (don't low poo), I'd pass on both of these lines. If you do occasionally low poo, you might try the Drama Clean condish, and if you experience adverse results, you can simply low poo it out.
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CG/LOC Method's 3b/3c hair SL-Curly/ Goal-MBL Curly
Weekly Poo/Low Poo: some Shea M Poo.
Weekly Deep Treat-Dermorganic Intensive Hair Masque
Bi-Weekly RO:Tresseme Naturals - V.Smooth/N.Moisture
Daily Leave in:Shea Moisture Extra Moisture Detangler
Daily Oil: Olive Oil & Conut Oil Mix
Daily Styler: Shea Moisture Curl & Style Milk
I always found it odd how it makes you think its changed- but the same old cones and sulfates are still there.
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
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