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Old 07-15-2013, 10:57 AM   #1
 
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Default Spray leave-in condish?

Pre-CG I used to use a spray leave-in by Biolage that I liked. I looked at the ingredients and there are cones. Any suggestions? I am on the hunt for several new products, including a good RO, not to mention a cowash.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:03 AM   #2
 
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I really like CHS slip spray leave in. Nice and light but also detangles nicely.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:18 AM   #3
 
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A spray is unlikely to be a true conditioner, it won't be rich in emollients because they are creamy and will not make a nice mist. You can use it as well as a proper leave in tho: one option is to make your own spray product up.

I use Komaza Care Matani repair treatment spray most washes - not for slip since I have already detangled but for the ceramides, panthenol and hydrolysed protein. Possibly a waste of money for those who have healthy virgin hair but good for damaged ends or colour treated hair. KC do have a couple of other sprays with nice ingredients (one coconut, one aloe vera IIRC) but I have not tried them.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:36 AM   #4
 
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Once again Firefox is right. I've learned via trial/error that spray leave in conditioners function as a way to refresh your curls. Not as a leave in. So to not waste money on the Jane Cater spray revitalizing conditioner, I spray some on my hair along with the cantu coconut milk spray & coconut/olive oils with a baggy over night. I wake up with soft fluffy hair.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:36 PM   #5
 
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Shescentit has a few spray leave ins. I use them as a first layer when I'm using three layers. They work well with other richer products.
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:20 PM   #6
 
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kathymack....i have not been on in so long and actually looked for you I was hoping to see what your new "favs" were--OKRA GEL---hmmm.....
I have been having major issues with products and am trying to find some new products. Any new ones you are loving?
I have been finding that my aloe fix keeps flaking as soon as i put it in (same with deva gel). I actually just tried coffeecocoa creme (think thats what its called ) with duchess of curls and my hair was OK :0 I have been using renpure conditioner and i seem to like it!!! Any new suggestions (can you also inbox me your site) thank you
ps. in case you don't remember me--i live in levittown
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:55 PM   #7
 
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I also recommend SLIP by Curly Hair Solutions.
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:02 PM   #8
 
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+1 Shescentit

I have the Vanilla Coconut spray... I like it but it's definitely very light.
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A spray is unlikely to be a true conditioner, it won't be rich in emollients because they are creamy and will not make a nice mist. You can use it as well as a proper leave in tho: one option is to make your own spray product up.

I use Komaza Care Matani repair treatment spray most washes - not for slip since I have already detangled but for the ceramides, panthenol and hydrolysed protein. Possibly a waste of money for those who have healthy virgin hair but good for damaged ends or colour treated hair. KC do have a couple of other sprays with nice ingredients (one coconut, one aloe vera IIRC) but I have not tried them.
Yes, I understand but since I am having trouble with the CG routine, major frizz, tangles and dryness I am wondering what the problem is. Although CG is different, there were a few things that I did learn about my hair pre- CG that I think I might want to keep in mind as I move forward in trying to figure out my CG routine. Pre-CG likes were heavy RO followed by a light LI. My hair did not like much, if any product and if I did use anything it was a light gel followed by a little hair spray. My hair also did not appreciate strong PT on a regular basis. I dont know why I thought my hair would be different following CG! I know.the.hair.spray is not CG but I am currently researching new products for a similar CG friendly routine to see how that works for my hair.
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Old 07-17-2013, 05:35 AM   #10
 
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I have the Jane Carter revitalizing spray (leave-in) and also her Natural spray gel. These might be right up your alley. They are inexpensive, smell great. I find the LI doesn't do anything for me, but I use the spray gel occasionally as a hair spray substitute. They are both CG.
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Yes, I understand but since I am having trouble with the CG routine, major frizz, tangles and dryness I am wondering what the problem is. Although CG is different, there were a few things that I did learn about my hair pre- CG that I think I might want to keep in mind as I move forward in trying to figure out my CG routine. Pre-CG likes were heavy RO followed by a light LI. My hair did not like much, if any product and if I did use anything it was a light gel followed by a little hair spray. My hair also did not appreciate strong PT on a regular basis. I dont know why I thought my hair would be different following CG! I know.the.hair.spray is not CG but I am currently researching new products for a similar CG friendly routine to see how that works for my hair.
Try cutting out or down on humectants, especially glycerin, they cause problems in high or low dews especially for porous hair - can cause frizz, dryness or tangles. IMO using anti-humectants is not a way to 'cancel out' humectants' for fine or wavy hair, you just end up greasy or weighed down.

My hair didn't like hardcore drying type protein treatments, i kept getting way too much 'residue' on the surface and straw like hair. Then I learned to balance protein with emollients and/ or oils - as a treatment or minor ingredient not as a leave in - now I can use a fair bit of protein but not with the powerful humectants like propylene glycol or glycerin. Hydrolysed protein can either penetrate or adhere to the surface or both, each has a slightly different effect so some hairs will like one and some the other.

Choose your products based on your hair properties, dew points and the ingredients, not simply whether they are 'light' or 'heavy' (to me not the same as rich). If you had a routine that worked in many ways, review the ingredients of the previous products and replicate that - the effects of silicones can be replaced by lighter natural oils and/ or film formers (hydrolysed protein, flaxseed, okra, to a lesser extent panthenol), not by humectants.
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Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
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I spotted this at Whole Foods and I think Acure is a great brand.

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