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stefflg79 07-19-2013 10:27 AM

What does PT's do?
 
I am fine/thin haired, normal porosity normal elasticity. I have tried a few PT's and they don't seem to have much of an effect on my hair. If anything, my curl loosens a tad. Although my hair gets amazing shine. I have tried gelatin, Ion Effective Care and GVP Joico K pack, always following with a DT. My question is, what are typical results if using a PT? Does it cause hair to curl more or just make hair healthier? My hair does not dry out with PT's but does frizz when I use Epsom salt spray or NPF as a spray.

Having said all that, last weekend I tried a PT of Ion (no DT that time), nothing much happened. Loose curls though, so I did a DT of GVP CB the next day, and got amazing curls! I didn't know if the PT the day before caused the results or just the DT.

Samanthascurlz 07-19-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stefflg79 (Post 2192561)
I am fine/thin haired, normal porosity normal elasticity. I have tried a few PT's and they don't seem to have much of an effect on my hair. If anything, my curl loosens a tad. Although my hair gets amazing shine. I have tried gelatin, Ion Effective Care and GVP Joico K pack, always following with a DT. My question is, what are typical results if using a PT? Does it cause hair to curl more or just make hair healthier? My hair does not dry out with PT's but does frizz when I use Epsom salt spray or NPF as a spray.

Having said all that, last weekend I tried a PT of Ion (no DT that time), nothing much happened. Loose curls though, so I did a DT of GVP CB the next day, and got amazing curls! I didn't know if the PT the day before caused the results or just the DT.

You state you are normal porosity, so I do know that the amount of PT's do not need to be as much compared to someone with high porosity. I have tried the GVP Joico K-Pac and the fact that MO is the second ingredient, I didn't find it to be as strong for protein compared to the Gelatine PT. Have you tried just doing a PT and not following with a DT?

Also, with the bolded quote, I am not sure about the relationship between salt spray and PT? Could you elaborate more?

The results of a PT usually give hair more elasticity to it. Also, when hair is wet, the hair isn't 'mushy' (usually a sign of OC'ing) or breaks easily when you pull a curl.

stefflg79 07-19-2013 03:06 PM

Sorry that was unclear, what I meant in the bolded part is I was thinking of Epsom salt and NPF as a protein, even though I didn't use it as a PT. I saw that some people seem to dry out and get straw like when they have a problem with protein, but I never get straw like hair. Just loose curls & frizz.

I did try Ion Effective Care last week without a deep treatment and ended up with really loose curl, although no frizz and my hair was shiny. Since my curl was so limp I did a DT of GVP CB the next day & had amazing results, tons of curl & very little frizz. But I can't figure out if the curls came because I did the PT the day before, or if my hair just seems to prefer moisture & not need PT's.

wavydaze 07-19-2013 06:35 PM

I'm fine, normal, normal like you but I have medium density.

Ion effective care does not have enough protein to suffice as a PT, IMO. You can try doing the gelatin PT and not following with a DT (just use an RO) see what that does/how you like it. In high dews, I've been doing a weekly gelatin PT (not followed by a DT, only RO) and most of my products have protein.

Samanthascurlz 07-19-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stefflg79 (Post 2192665)
Sorry that was unclear, what I meant in the bolded part is I was thinking of Epsom salt and NPF as a protein, even though I didn't use it as a PT. I saw that some people seem to dry out and get straw like when they have a problem with protein, but I never get straw like hair. Just loose curls & frizz.

I did try Ion Effective Care last week without a deep treatment and ended up with really loose curl, although no frizz and my hair was shiny. Since my curl was so limp I did a DT of GVP CB the next day & had amazing results, tons of curl & very little frizz. But I can't figure out if the curls came because I did the PT the day before, or if my hair just seems to prefer moisture & not need PT's.

Some people can get 'straw-like' hair when using protein, but that usually means that they either have enough or used too much.


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