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Old 07-21-2013, 04:08 PM   #1
 
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Default Low poo recs?

Looking for a good low poo for occasional use--I'm okay spending a bit more on it since I won't use it very often, but there are so many options!
I'm high porosity, med/high density, medium width, 2C...
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:13 PM   #2
 
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I really like DevaCare low poo. Our props are pretty much the same. I'm currently rotating with the CJ gentle poo, but don't like it as well. What I'm smitten with, though, is the CJ Daily fix cleansing conditioner! It works like a low poo bc it has coco betaine, but also conditions. Since I've started using this, I predominantly cowash now.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:24 PM   #3
 
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Ooh, good question. I'm very interested in recommendations, too! If I'm going to use occasional silicones, I need a good low poo.
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Ooh, good question. I'm very interested in recommendations, too! If I'm going to use occasional silicones, I need a good low poo.
Cleansers that can remove cones (attempting to list in order from what I found most gentle to what I found strongest, not all inclusive, only products I've tried):
CJ Daily Fix (cleansing conditioner)
DevaCare No-Poo (DevaCurl No-Poo does also have coco betaine, but it's much lower in the ingredient list)
Deva Low-Poo
CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo
Renpure Argan shampoo
Renpure Keratin shampoo
Giovanni 50:50 shampoo
Giovanni Tea Tree shampoo
AG Curl Activating Shampoo
MoroccanOil Volumizing Shampoo
Kinky Curly Come Clean (I know some people like this product, but it was one of very few products that my hair absolutely hated. I found CHS Treatment Shampoo to be much more gentle, despite containing ammonium laureth sulfate).
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CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo is the best low poo I've tried. I've also had it for months, I purchased it in late April/early May, and I'm not even 1/4 of the way through the bottle. I cleanse my hair a couple times a week.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:33 AM   #6
 
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CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo - I use this one
Renpure Argan shampoo - my daughter uses this one
Kinky Curly Come Clean - I would use this more as a clarifier than a low-poo
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I don't consider KCCC a low poo.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:59 AM   #8
 
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I really like the Giovani poos... they're not harsh or stripping at all on my hair/scalp (you have to be careful though, I think there are several formulations around). I have the GTTTT but I think I'm going to switch to the 50/50 when my bottle runs out. SM Coconut/Hibiscus poo is very gentle, but you have to be able to stand oils/butters in your poo (so not necessarily for everyone). I am currently alternating between the GTTTT and SM one. Free and Clear may be a good option as well.

Low-poos I didn't like:

KMF Everyday (a bit drying)
CJ Gentle Cleansing (made my scalp itch)
Body Shop Rainforest Moisture (too drying)
Nature's Gate Orange Patchouli (too drying or frizz-inducing or something)
SM Moisture Retention (this one was alright but too many butters)
Renew Everyday Purifying (made my scalp itch, too drying)
Sukin (same as Renew)
Burt's Bees Raspberry & Pomegranate (these were good for my hair but ultimately my scalp would get itchy after a while) Think they're now discontinued

I also want to try YTCukes & DermOrganic (drugstore) and have my eye on these low-poos:

Broo Hydrating Porter Shampoo
BRÖÖ

Gourmet Body Treats Raw Coffee Shampoos
Raw Coffee Shampoo


Ultimately though I have a feeling that I'm going to foray into making my own low-poo. I'm not sure there is something out there that meets my needs: a clear low-poo w/ very a gentle surfactant (like decyl glucoside) and without many oils or butters, and without many botanicals or other possible irritants. I suppose my scalp is picky in terms of preservatives as well, so I would need to experiment here. My scalp does likes aloe, so an aloe-rich low-poo would be great. If anyone has any suggestions for a store-bought version of my dream low-poo please let me know!
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Broo Hydrating Porter Shampoo is excellent, but I find that I like Broo Frizzy to Sleek Shampoo even more! Those too are probably the best shampoos I have ever used. I just purchased Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle and will give feedback on that one. For higher end, AG Fast Food Sulfate Free is a pretty good lowpoo.

Honestly, when it comes to making your own shampoos, I have found that it's not worth it. It's not worth buying all of the ingredients, paying for shipping, measuring, testing pH, buying packaging, and then trial and error. But that's just my experience; maybe you would be more lucky than me haha. I have found, though, that it saves money to buy an awesome lowpoo and conditioner rather than trying to making my own.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:17 AM   #10
 
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Honestly, when it comes to making your own shampoos, I have found that it's not worth it. It's not worth buying all of the ingredients, paying for shipping, measuring, testing pH, buying packaging, and then trial and error. But that's just my experience; maybe you would be more lucky than me haha. I have found, though, that it saves money to buy an awesome lowpoo and conditioner rather than trying to making my own.
Thanks for your thoughts! I'm curious, what ingredients did you buy?

I'm thinking of doing something really simple along the lines of : aloe vera gel, decyl glucoside, citric acid. What do you think? Would I need a preservative or can I keep it in the fridge?

Ideally I would like to find a low-poo that I can buy as well I just don't know I'll ever find one that fits my all my needs. :/
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*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

New climate! Current favorites:
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: JC Confident Coils, JC Rockin Ringlets, CJ CIAB, gelatin gel

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Old 07-22-2013, 12:51 PM   #11
 
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Looks like Giovanni is the way to go for me, especially since I can get it at Whole foods.

Now I do have a low pow that I've been using for a while that's for my overly shedding, thinning hair called Pura D'or. I like the smell and it makes my hair feel OK, but Firefox pointed out to me that with my hard water and the minerals in this shampoo, I'd need to chelate occasionally. What are your thoughts on that? Here are the ingredients:

Purified water, sodium cocoyl isethionate (derived from coconut), cocamidopropyl betaine (derived from coconut), tea tree oil, argan oil, black seed (kanoji) oil, amla oil, nettle extract, biotin, saw palmetto, cedar wood oil, rosemary oil, sage extract, he shou wu (fo-ti), hibiscus oil, pygeum extract, pumpkin seed oil, green tea extract, zinc, soy isoflavones, beta sitosterols, aloe vera, niacin, vitamin E, B-vitamin complex, phenoxyethanol (mild preservative), grapefruit seed extract (natural preservative), lactic acid (naturally occurring in yogurt), Dead Sea salt.

Alright my ingredient pros - have at it!
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:16 PM   #12
 
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Also- how do you guys like Yes to Cucumbers?
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Yes To Cucumbers has hair products? O-O
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:43 AM   #14
 
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WavyRoo, if you have a Target or Wal-Mart, I think both places carry Giovanni products for much cheaper!
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If you haven't already seen it this link is very useful: What Makes a Cleansing Ingredient More Harsh or More Gentle?

The low-poo that you have seems fine (it even breaks down cones) and of course if none of the oils, botanicals, the preservative etc. are irritating to you then you probably don't need to purchase a new low-poo.

If you go with Giovanni, just be careful your bottle doesn't have any olefin sulfonates in it... I read somewhere that some formulations had it. It's hard to know whether it was found in older, newer or middle formulations. I've actually seen 3 different formulations of Smooth as Silk low-poo on the ground!!! it's very annoying. Anyway none of the G low-poos I've tried had olefin sulfonate, but just double check before purchasing.
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*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

New climate! Current favorites:
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: JC Confident Coils, JC Rockin Ringlets, CJ CIAB, gelatin gel

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Also- how do you guys like Yes to Cucumbers?
I've never tried it but I think it's generally well liked.
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*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

New climate! Current favorites:
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: JC Confident Coils, JC Rockin Ringlets, CJ CIAB, gelatin gel

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VERY helpful article- thanks wavydaze!
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DT: GVP Conditioning Balm w/ coconut oil
LI: a touch of JCTS
Products: my HG is Tresemme Bouncy Curls Defining Gel mixed with a touch of BRHG over a little flax seed gel, SM Souflee/Milk for 2nd day hair, occasionally Bioterra Curling Creme and Gel
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Honestly, when it comes to making your own shampoos, I have found that it's not worth it. It's not worth buying all of the ingredients, paying for shipping, measuring, testing pH, buying packaging, and then trial and error. But that's just my experience; maybe you would be more lucky than me haha. I have found, though, that it saves money to buy an awesome lowpoo and conditioner rather than trying to making my own.
Thanks for your thoughts! I'm curious, what ingredients did you buy?

I'm thinking of doing something really simple along the lines of : aloe vera gel, decyl glucoside, citric acid. What do you think? Would I need a preservative or can I keep it in the fridge?

Ideally I would like to find a low-poo that I can buy as well I just don't know I'll ever find one that fits my all my needs. :/
That might work! I would also buy coco betaine, to increase lather and make it more gentle. Actually, I might recommend against decyl glucoside because the pH is around 9. Of course, the citric acid would balance that out, but nonetheless, I bought some ACI, which is just a liquid version of SCI, which is super gentle and easy to use I got it at the Herbarie
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If you go with Giovanni, just be careful your bottle doesn't have any olefin sulfonates in it...
Is this generally not considered a sulfate then? Because I just bought 2 bottles of Organix poo. They were on sale. This ingredient is in them but the bottle says in big writing "Sulfate Free"

I even checked reviews on this forum for Organix to make sure that the poos are sulfate free.

I'm annoyed. I'm getting tired of this ingredient game. I have enough headaches deciphering the ingredients of every single food item to make sure it's gluten and nut free. Now, I have to be an ingredient detective for my darn shampoo?! Seriously, I'm annoyed.

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If you go with Giovanni, just be careful your bottle doesn't have any olefin sulfonates in it...
Is this generally not considered a sulfate then? Because I just bought 2 bottles of Organix poo. They were on sale. This ingredient is in them but the bottle says in big writing "Sulfate Free"

I even checked reviews on this forum for Organix to make sure that the poos are sulfate free.

I'm annoyed. I'm getting tired of this ingredient game. I have enough headaches deciphering the ingredients of every single food item to make sure it's gluten and nut free. Now, I have to be an ingredient detective for my darn shampoo?! Seriously, I'm annoyed.
The shampoo companies have adopted the rule that as long as there is no SLS or SAS in the product, it is sulphate free. However, there are many other surfactants that are just as "harsh", including olefin sulfonate.

You could try some of the Organix and see how your hair feels after. If it feels stripped, you could always return it or keep a bottle as a clarifier.

See the link that wavy daze provided above, it's very helpful.
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