Product help for fine hair!

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  • 1 Post By CurlyInTheFog

Hey All!

I need some product help. I recently received my hair analysis and although I figured i had fine hair, I was super shocked to find out my hair was normal porosity with normal elasticity as I had thought my hair was pretty fried from several bad hair colorings over the year.

Anyhoo! Can any of you give me your routines with the products that you use if you have the same hair type as I do? I've done the CG for a while, but never had great results, but now knowing my hair type, I think i was using the wrong products and using too much of the right products as well.

I'm really hoping to get this right and have my hair looking better than the dry mess it currently looks like!

Thank you!
Natalie
I have your hair properties. A typical hair day with me is:

Shower. Shampoo with Dr. Bronners Tea Tree Soap. Condition with Yes to Carrots, detangling starting at the bottom and moving my way up. I put my conditioner all the way into the top of the my hair. I put it in a bun in the shower, then leave that on for the rest of the shower. Rinse it out upside down.

Right after the shower with my hair still upside down, I rake in Yes to Carrots as a leave in (half dollar size). Then, I scoop out some Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie (quarter size), then emulsify it and rake it through my hair. I concentrate it on the ends and length of my hair.

To dry it, I first scrunch some of the water out of my dripping wet hair with my hands. Then I scrunch my hair with the sides of my plopping t shirt, and I plop into the middle of the t shirt. All of these steps (product application and plopping) were done with my head turned upside down.

I leave that on my head for long enough to dry my body, put on my clothes, and put on deodorant. So, like 3-5 minutes. Then, I take my hair down. I stand rightside up, and divide my hair over my shoulder on each side. I scrunch in Suave Captivating Curl Mousse, a good handful on each side. I don't think it's CG, but you could use LA Looks Sports Gel (a quarter size on each side for me) which is pretty much just as good. Then, I'll use a terrycloth towel to scrunch my hair to make it a bit dryer. If I use a regular towel after product application, and only scrunch a bit, it doesn't cause frizz. Then I let it airdry the rest of the way.

Some fine haired people would get weighed down with this kind of routine. My hair is BSL and really thick. Also, I liked a little weight on my hair so it goes more downward instead of outward.
Fine Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity. Dyed to brown a few months ago.
Lowpoo:
Trader Joe's TTT Shampoo
Rinse Out:
Yes to Carrots, AOHR, Aubrey Organics Rosemary Peppermint
LI: Yes to Carrots
Stylers: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, LA Looks Sports, Suave Professionals Captivating Curls Whipped Mousse

Last edited by rainboe; 07-22-2013 at 10:59 AM.
You didn't say what your density is, so that may affect what you use and how much. My hair is quite thick, but I try to keep the number of products to a minimum.

My routine right now:
Wash with Trader Joe's TTT (I always dilute my wash conditioner so I can get it through my hair without having to use the whole bottle) and detangle

Use TN as a RO, and usually leave a bit in, or use a little KCKT as LI; I do everything from this stage on upside down (rinsing, scrunching, etc.)

Scrunch with a flour sack towel

Rake/smooth in KCCC + BRHG and scrunch again with a flour sack towel. I use two pumps of KCCC and one of BRHG for half my hair, so about a quarter's worth twice

Plop for about 10 minutes, then pixiecurl diffuse. When my hair is about halfway dry, I do Smaster's technique and scrunch in a little more of the KCCC + BRHG combo and then diffuse a little longer, and air dry the rest of the way. My hair is really crunchy by the time it dries, but scrunches out nicely.
3a/b, F, normal porosity

Wash with either Suave Tropical Coconut, As I Am, or CJ Daily Fix
Condition with STC or Yes to Blueberries and detangle with Denman, rinse very lightly (baptismal rinse)
Add LAL gel, either Sport or Wet Look, scrunch with flour sack towel, and plop
Diffuse 5 minutes, then air dry
Thank you both for your replies! I wish I had seen them before I did my hair today.

I did a sulfate wash today (realized that my hairspray for my bangs had silicones in it), no poo, RI, LI, Garnier Pure Clean Gel.

I tried the plopping thing, but I'm not sure then how to keep my part in the middle. When I took it out it seemed like a big mess.

I then tried this pixiecurl drying method and bigger hot mess! I found there were no consistency in my waves, they were sticking together, it was just a mess.

I think one thing I did find (as I re-wet my hair after all that) was that I need to scrunch before I start drying. Otherwise it doesn't wave as well or as consistent.

One thing I did notice is that Rainboe, you said that you didn't put your mousse in your hair until after you plopped, so maybe i'll try that too.

Also CurlyInTheFog, you mentioned that you only pixie curl till about halfway, so I'll try that too. I saw a few people mention this SMaster thing, so I have to find a tutorial on that.

If you (or anyone else) has any more tips, i would love to hear them!!
This video might help you: How To: Deva Curl 3 Step - YouTube. I don't actually do this routine now, but it gave me a jumping-off point, and then I kind of figured out what worked and what didn't from there.

One thing that I found I need to do is scrunch very deliberately--by that I mean don't do that snatch and grab stuff you see on some of the youtube videos. It just breaks up my curl too much. I use a flour sack towel, bring it up under a section of hair, then use the towel to lift the curls to my scalp, squeeze deliberately and firmly for a few seconds, and then use the towel to gently bring them down again before going to the next section. This helps to form the curl and keeps them intact, while removing excess water. And then I plop as well.

Pixiecurling takes some practice. Believe me, the first few times I did it the results weren't so great. I didn't really know how to use a diffuser--didn't really know how to use a dryer very well, either. So give it some time. And don't be afraid to use more gel than you think you need. If you get a lot of crunch, it'll scrunch out. Sometimes you have to use a lot of gel to minimize frizz and get good curl formation. You can always back off on the amount once you have an idea of what your curls can look like.
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3a/b, F, normal porosity

Wash with either Suave Tropical Coconut, As I Am, or CJ Daily Fix
Condition with STC or Yes to Blueberries and detangle with Denman, rinse very lightly (baptismal rinse)
Add LAL gel, either Sport or Wet Look, scrunch with flour sack towel, and plop
Diffuse 5 minutes, then air dry
This video might help you: How To: Deva Curl 3 Step - YouTube. I don't actually do this routine now, but it gave me a jumping-off point, and then I kind of figured out what worked and what didn't from there.

One thing that I found I need to do is scrunch very deliberately--by that I mean don't do that snatch and grab stuff you see on some of the youtube videos. It just breaks up my curl too much. I use a flour sack towel, bring it up under a section of hair, then use the towel to lift the curls to my scalp, squeeze deliberately and firmly for a few seconds, and then use the towel to gently bring them down again before going to the next section. This helps to form the curl and keeps them intact, while removing excess water. And then I plop as well.

Pixiecurling takes some practice. Believe me, the first few times I did it the results weren't so great. I didn't really know how to use a diffuser--didn't really know how to use a dryer very well, either. So give it some time. And don't be afraid to use more gel than you think you need. If you get a lot of crunch, it'll scrunch out. Sometimes you have to use a lot of gel to minimize frizz and get good curl formation. You can always back off on the amount once you have an idea of what your curls can look like.
Originally Posted by CurlyInTheFog
ok, well i'm glad i'm not the only one who has trouble figuring this out. That video was really helpful, thank you! I'll definitely try that out and see if it works for my hair.
Don't despair if it doesn't work out perfectly. Just look for improvement so you can figure out what you may need to tweak. As you can see, I changed quite a few things, but the video really helped me to get an understanding of the process.

Another thing that helped me was to do one thing on half my hair, and something else on the other half--use different gels, rake vs. smooth, etc. That way I could compare the two sides and really see which was working better. Sometimes the difference is pretty subtle, and you can't tell if you do things on different days.
3a/b, F, normal porosity

Wash with either Suave Tropical Coconut, As I Am, or CJ Daily Fix
Condition with STC or Yes to Blueberries and detangle with Denman, rinse very lightly (baptismal rinse)
Add LAL gel, either Sport or Wet Look, scrunch with flour sack towel, and plop
Diffuse 5 minutes, then air dry

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