Thought she was perfect, then not quite.

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I thought I found the perfect stylist! She was kind, funny, knew what she was doing and was really flexible about her prices! Then she suggested that I blowfry my hair straight, got my hair characteristics wrong(I've got fine, not course hair) and the worst ever-dun dun dun!!!-used a razor to thin my hair! I wasn't paying attention and then all of a sudden I hear that dreaded noise! She razored my hair! I just let her do it, but I like her so much that ill just work on my communication skills with her!
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It's annoying isn't it? When I started seeing my current stylist we had a conversation about fringes and both agreed that too short fringes weren't a good look on anyone over the age of about six and she has cut my fringe well up until the last cut - it was 3 1/2 weeks ago and I'm only now starting to feel slightly comfortable with it. She was also still busy with another client the last time I went so another staff member came and asked if I wanted my hair washed - me - no thanks
her - well I'll just wet it down
me - she cuts it dry and just sprays a bit of water on it
her - it's easier to cut wet
At which point I let her wet it down. Result was a not too good cut as my hair is a lot curlier at the back than the front and has to be cut to accommodate the difference - you can't see the difference when it's wet. And the aforementioned hideously short fringe.
Just when I thought I'd found someone just right for me and my hair. Sigh. I'll give her another go, but only if she does it dry and remembers the conversation we had about fringes.
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Sometimes it's worth it to walk away, even if you like a stylist personally. You're not there for friendship; you're there to get a great cut for your wonderful hair.
Originally Posted by claudine191
I agree, but it's so hard to find a stylist in this tiny town that I live in, so everyone deserves a second chance! Plus she did a really great cut up until she brought out the razor!
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The closest 'big' towns are an hour away at best and my mom won't let me drive that far! Lol, the joys of being a teenager! But my old stylist went to another town that's not too far away but started charging an arm and a leg for cutting so I just can't do that. But I can't judge her too much, I haven't fixed my hair curly yet, so I don't know how bad the damage is, if there is any!
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Sweetie, you are not there to find a best friend, I am sure you have those. YOu are paying a supposed professional for services. You dont have to like her - its a bonus that you do. What I hear is that you dont like what she did to your hair. So what difference does it make how much you liked her? I fell into that trap myself for a long time and suffered for it. Then I realized I was really unhappy with my hair and the services. It s the services you are paying for, not the personality of the stylist. See if you can find another one, and talk with your mom.
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Sweetie, you are not there to find a best friend, I am sure you have those. YOu are paying a supposed professional for services. You dont have to like her - its a bonus that you do. What I hear is that you dont like what she did to your hair. So what difference does it make how much you liked her? I fell into that trap myself for a long time and suffered for it. Then I realized I was really unhappy with my hair and the services. It s the services you are paying for, not the personality of the stylist. See if you can find another one, and talk with your mom.
Originally Posted by Myrna
I do believe in second chances and I didn't tell her not to use a razor, so next time I get my hair cut I will tell her to not use a razor and if she does use a razor then I will be on the search for yet another stylist.
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I just let her do it, but I like her so much that ill just work on my communication skills with her!
Originally Posted by someonestakara
You know, you are an incredible woman.

VERY few people -- and even fewer teenagers, in my experience as a high school teacher -- have the insight to recognize opportunities for improvement in ones' own personal communication and the dedication to follow through with it.

Good for you, someonestakara! I hope that you're able to work with this stylist and come to a lifelong relationship that really works for you.

I also hope that the razor damage is something you can live with. I've had those stylists, and have definitely moved on. The result is that I'm never happy with a stylist. Perhaps I should try your approach, instead!
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I had a similar experience. I found a stylist who was on Deva's list as being a trained Deva stylist and I was SUPER excited. He even had good reviews online from curly clients! I went in and he was really nice and very interesting to talk to - in fact I was there for two hours and he spent more time chatting about philosophy than cutting. But he was giving me a dry cut and washed me with deva low poo so I was happy. Until he brought be back from the sink and started to style me. Oh my, it was bad. He took little strands oh my hair and slathered them with deva defining gel while pulling out all my curl. Then he 'diffused' by holding pieces out 90 degrees from my head and moving the dryer back and forth along them. My hair has never looked worse, but I'm not good at confrontation so I thanked him and paid. I of course immediately went home after being there all afternoon and rewashed and styled. I hated the cut. I had pieces that were too short, pieces that were too long, and he hadn't even trimmed my ends to take off the damage. I spent a lot of money on the cut and was devastated. I finally convinced myself that I needed to call him and ask if he could fix it. That was very difficult for me, but I did and he was very gracious. I even practiced what I would tell him ahead of time. But after I went back in, he listened to me much more closely since I was an unhappy customer and was much more interested in giving me exactly what I wanted- for free. It came out BEAUTIFUL. It's by far the best cut I've ever had and now that he knows me and what I need (and has proven he can deliver), I doubt I'll ever go anywhere else. I even taught him a few things about proteins and humectants lol.

It's so very important to give people second chances, but also to self advocate. He was willing to really listen and accept that he didn't do it right the first time. With that attitude, I'm willing to give him as many chances as he needs!
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I just let her do it, but I like her so much that ill just work on my communication skills with her!
Originally Posted by someonestakara
You know, you are an incredible woman.

VERY few people -- and even fewer teenagers, in my experience as a high school teacher -- have the insight to recognize opportunities for improvement in ones' own personal communication and the dedication to follow through with it.

Good for you, someonestakara! I hope that you're able to work with this stylist and come to a lifelong relationship that really works for you.

I also hope that the razor damage is something you can live with. I've had those stylists, and have definitely moved on. The result is that I'm never happy with a stylist. Perhaps I should try your approach, instead!
Originally Posted by curlytwirlykate
Thanks sooo much for saying that! I know people can't read my mind so I should say what I need to get the best bang for my buck I guess you would say! I try to be like this with everyone! I hope everything works well with you!
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I had a similar experience. I found a stylist who was on Deva's list as being a trained Deva stylist and I was SUPER excited. He even had good reviews online from curly clients! I went in and he was really nice and very interesting to talk to - in fact I was there for two hours and he spent more time chatting about philosophy than cutting. But he was giving me a dry cut and washed me with deva low poo so I was happy. Until he brought be back from the sink and started to style me. Oh my, it was bad. He took little strands oh my hair and slathered them with deva defining gel while pulling out all my curl. Then he 'diffused' by holding pieces out 90 degrees from my head and moving the dryer back and forth along them. My hair has never looked worse, but I'm not good at confrontation so I thanked him and paid. I of course immediately went home after being there all afternoon and rewashed and styled. I hated the cut. I had pieces that were too short, pieces that were too long, and he hadn't even trimmed my ends to take off the damage. I spent a lot of money on the cut and was devastated. I finally convinced myself that I needed to call him and ask if he could fix it. That was very difficult for me, but I did and he was very gracious. I even practiced what I would tell him ahead of time. But after I went back in, he listened to me much more closely since I was an unhappy customer and was much more interested in giving me exactly what I wanted- for free. It came out BEAUTIFUL. It's by far the best cut I've ever had and now that he knows me and what I need (and has proven he can deliver), I doubt I'll ever go anywhere else. I even taught him a few things about proteins and humectants lol.

It's so very important to give people second chances, but also to self advocate. He was willing to really listen and accept that he didn't do it right the first time. With that attitude, I'm willing to give him as many chances as he needs!
Originally Posted by WavyRoo
That's why I decided to give her a second chance! She was really eager to keep me as a client! I'm gonna tell her that I love what she did with my hair but I would really appreciate it if you didn't use a razor on my hair anymore, I find that it roughs up my cuticle.
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Thought she was perfect, then not quite.-imageuploadedbycurltalk1375066392.567764.jpg here's what my hair ended up looking like! Sorry if its a bad picture, I'm not used to taking pictures of the back of my head lol!
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Attachment 37617 here's what my hair ended up looking like! Sorry if its a bad picture, I'm not used to taking pictures of the back of my head lol!
Originally Posted by someonestakara
Cute!!! You've got some fantastic curl definition going on there, lady!
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I am so terrified of getting haircuts. Im practically hyperventilating when I walk into the salon... planning in my head everything I need to make known before they bring those blades near my head. I tell them absolutely no razors and no sliding the blade of the scissors down my hair to "blend" the layers.

I just tell them to wet it down, cut it straight across the back, long layers and just get the ends of the layers. And nip the shorter pieces in the front to keep them healthy.


I still have some funky short layers from the last time the girl started scraping down my hair with the scissors, without asking me... but I used to get it blown out straight in the salon as well, now I just leave with it wet.
I had a similar experience. I found a stylist who was on Deva's list as being a trained Deva stylist and I was SUPER excited. He even had good reviews online from curly clients! I went in and he was really nice and very interesting to talk to - in fact I was there for two hours and he spent more time chatting about philosophy than cutting. But he was giving me a dry cut and washed me with deva low poo so I was happy. Until he brought be back from the sink and started to style me. Oh my, it was bad. He took little strands oh my hair and slathered them with deva defining gel while pulling out all my curl. Then he 'diffused' by holding pieces out 90 degrees from my head and moving the dryer back and forth along them. My hair has never looked worse, but I'm not good at confrontation so I thanked him and paid. I of course immediately went home after being there all afternoon and rewashed and styled. I hated the cut. I had pieces that were too short, pieces that were too long, and he hadn't even trimmed my ends to take off the damage. I spent a lot of money on the cut and was devastated. I finally convinced myself that I needed to call him and ask if he could fix it. That was very difficult for me, but I did and he was very gracious. I even practiced what I would tell him ahead of time. But after I went back in, he listened to me much more closely since I was an unhappy customer and was much more interested in giving me exactly what I wanted- for free. It came out BEAUTIFUL. It's by far the best cut I've ever had and now that he knows me and what I need (and has proven he can deliver), I doubt I'll ever go anywhere else. I even taught him a few things about proteins and humectants lol.

It's so very important to give people second chances, but also to self advocate. He was willing to really listen and accept that he didn't do it right the first time. With that attitude, I'm willing to give him as many chances as he needs!
Originally Posted by WavyRoo
In this particular case I can't figure out how he was so far off the first time.
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He was just too busy talking...he wasn't listening to me or paying attention to what he was doing, really. But once I complained, he was all ears! Weird, right?
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You gals are all "nice". Now, I am not so nice any more. Maybe it comes with age. I figure I am paying for a service. If I dont like it, I will be unhappy, like I spent good money for a bad meal. Theoretically I believe in giving people second chances - but, I have learned - especially in the world of men and dating - that if I had a bad experience once, and I gave him a second chance, well, he just proved me right twice in my unhappiness. Now, maybe a stylist is a different animal - but I work hard for my $$, and have spent a lot on bad styling. So, if I am not happy - I am not going back. The money I save I can spend on good products. I have also learned that there are just as many good, moderately priced stylists, as there are bad, high priced ones.

Ladies, I am not speaking against being "nice" or practicing communication. But - do we think that men would react t his way? My husband is right here next to me on his computer and he says that if he got a really bad haircut, he would not pay.

And his haircuts are a lot cheaper - $20 in Toronto.
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IMO it's not about giving someone a second chance. It's about a professional being incompetent. She should have known better than to take a razor to your hair. If I wanted to "work" with someone, I'd get a discounted cut at a beauty school.

Communication skills are great and you definitely should learn to vocalize what you do and don't want, but I don't think this was the issue here.
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Last edited by Jessiebanana; 07-30-2013 at 11:36 PM.
Yep, I agree with Jessie. Communication skills are great - practice with your friends and family. SHE is the professional; it was up to her to communicate with YOU.

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