Just started the CG method! A question about hair type

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I am about to start out with the CG method, but first a little history about my hair:
Ive always hated my hair because it is so big and frizzy - i have never gone home from a salon happy, hairdressers always straightened my hair and cut it for a straight style since I was 10, and after the first wash I would cry because i couldnt style it at all. Always a big poofy mess. I stopped going to hair salons 8 years ago (23 now), i was just never happy and decided to just cut it myself. I usually just trim it and do a few layers, thats about where my creativity stops
My hair is a frizzy mess no matter what I do - silicones does not help much (but I am a heavy user of them!), no gel, mousse or spray can help my hair. The only thing that helps is straightening it all through with an iron on a high temp setting.
Its been coloured and lightened and had BKT treatments done (always my own work) to it over the past 3-4 years, lots of chemical treatments.

I tried doing the tests on hair strand thickness and porosity, and I think I have medium thickness strands and high porosity (especially when taking all the chemicals into consideration) - or am I conpletely off?
I have no idea about curl type. I think maybe between 2b-3a? Its hard to tell because my hair can really curl up when wet, but it all pulls out when drying. Plopping helps a little bit. My nape layers are pretty much straight, and I have TONS of baby hairs all over sticking out.

I had my last sulphate shampooing, washed with conditioner and used the same one as a leave in (loreal elvital volume collagen). Then used a gel (some wella without silicones or polyquats) and plopped in a microfiber towel for about an hour. My hair looks exactly the same, if not worse than before. It feels like straw pretty much. I am hoping it will be better soon, I am sick of my hair, i always wanted to grow it out longer, but my ends are splitting, breaking off and it looks like hay nomatter what i do. i really count on the CG method to work for me!

This is my hair after the first wash, with co, gel and plopped - as you can see, my hair looks horrible:






Am I completely off with my hair typing? Am I doing it right so far? I dont expevt to see results after a month or two since my hair is so dry and damaged.

Sorry for the long story!

also, i am in Europe, so a lot of the products recommended for CG is nearly impossible for me to get, if anyone has suggestions for products i can get in Germany/Denmark, please let me know
Hi,
I can't help you very much but you could try the alverde conditioner from dm maybe the pink one with aloe vera and hibiskus. I heard lots of good reviews and i'm using it myself. I use it as a leave in and i use the alverde gel. Yeah at the beginning your hair looks worse than before i had the same problem, you have to try for a while.

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Based on what you've said about your hair, and your pictures, in addition to being medium texture with high porosity, it looks thick (density), and is likely to have poor elasticity, considering it breaks easily. Curl type is goodness only knows, considering what it's been through, but the good news is that that doesn't matter one bit. Just keep treating it well, now that you've got a start, and it will be the best that it can be naturally.

I'm sorry that I'm unfamiliar with Danish/German hair products, so I can't recommend any. Your best bet anyway is to learn to read ingredients labels yourself, as products can change without notice or suddenly become unavailable. There's some really good basic information here, on Live Curly, Live Free. I know the ingredients names aren't always the same, but it's a really good place to start. The e-book by the same name would give you much more detailed information about what's good for your hair, based on its properties.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
Welcome!

Is the ombre intentional or are you growing out old damage? If it's just damage IMO trim it off, I know from experience working with some mangeable hair near the roots and some fried hair at the ends is a total nightmare. Splits and breaks absolutely cannot be repaired, they will catch on healthier hair damaging that - trim the splits and breaks in the lengths by 'search and destroy' (cutting one at a time in good light with sharp scissors) or twisting small sections and trimming all the hairs that stick out.

Unfortunately hair is dead so damage cannot be permanently repaired, you should see some improvement within a couple of months but it might not be as much as you hope, depends how bad the damage to the structure is. Beneficial ingredients for damaged hair include coconut oil, hydrolysed protein, ceramides and panthenol. These can penetrate and also patch the surface.

From the photograph it looks like you simply didn't use anywhere near enough leave in conditioner, don't underestimate how much is needed it's loads even for hair that is shorter and thinner than yours. Your hair should feel like slimy seaweed when you are scrunching in your leave in conditioner, like you need to rinse it (but don't). If I have found the right conditioner that L'Oreal conditioner contains cetyl esters which is a wax, that built up so much for me as a leave in and pulled out all my curl.

I have high porosity colour treated hair and am currently loving Schwarzkopf Gliss (Kur) ultimate volume conditioner (protein and panthenol) which really boosts my waves and curls, and is available in Europe. I also do coconut oil soaks on dry hair as a pre-wash which makes a huge difference in reducing porosity, increasing elasticity, calming pouf and aiding definition.

IMO don't plop that long initially, you are only trying to stop your hair being soaking and dripping not getting it to dry, if you dry it too much with any fabric the frizz comes back and the wave is lost. It's not the same as towel turbanning, CG is always working with much wetter hair than you are used to. My hair often looks like barely wavey strings when I am done plopping or scrunching out the excess water, then miraculously bounces up as it air dries.

Clipping can help support the weight of longer hair, you can get Sibel brand roller jaw clamps on UK eBay which are the same as the Curly Hair Solutions ones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYG8_G7e_cI
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect

Last edited by Firefox7275; 08-09-2013 at 06:27 AM.
Hi,

I know just how you feel. Your hair kind of remind me of my own hair when I threw away all my sulfate and silicone products and stopped straightening a year ago. Please hang in there. Over time you’ll see a significant change for the better, a new curl pattern developing and it’s really worth the wait – trust me

Funny enough, I’m also 23 and Danish. The advice Firefox gave you is very good. Personally, I can’t live without weekly coconut oil treatments and lots of conditioner. I find that moisturizing is so important when you’re transitioning. If you look around this site it’s pretty easy to get overwhelmed with information. So I think starting out with focusing on moisturizing and keeping your routine simple is the easiest to do at first.

The first time I co-washed, used gel and plopped it looked even more horrible than yours. The first month was not fun and honestly, I constantly looked like a mess. Give it time and (slowly) definition will come.

When it comes to products on the Danish market I have some suggestions. However, as a student I go for the cheapest brands.

L’oreal elvital volume collagen (that you use) I use as well, but as my co-wash. Another option is Garnier Fructus Nutri-Repair. Tresemmé Naturals conditioner is a favorite of mine and a good choice for a normal conditioner and also a leave in as it is more moisturizing. It might be a co-wash option as well (and it won’t ruin your budget). You can also try Garnier Response Avocado Oil and Shea Butter which is a bit more moisturizing than L’oreal.

When it comes to gels the Danish market is not that great. I find that my hair needs tons of gel and that can be quite expensive. I use ‘Levevis’ (can be bought in Føtex among others) which costs 20 DKR. Also, Irma has one that’s okay.

Go invest in the organic coconut oil from Urtekram which can be bought in Netto or Føtex for 80-100 DKR.

Finally, John Masters is easy to find in DK (especially online) and although a bit more expensive, it’s worth investing in. Their detanglers are very good and also perfect to use as a leave ins. Mixing leave in (or Tresemmé) with desterilized water in a spray bottle to spritz daily can help your hair on the right track.

If you are looking for more Danish sulfate/cone free products check out this thread: Tråden om sulfatfri shampoo og silikonefri balsam/styling

When it comes to German products I have no idea – actually, I’m moving to Berlin next month so if you find any good products, please let me know.

And go celebrate your cone-free hair with a haircut. Length will come and you’ll be glad you did it.
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Welcome!

Is the ombre intentional or are you growing out old damage? If it's just damage IMO trim it off, I know from experience working with some mangeable hair near the roots and some fried hair at the ends is a total nightmare. Splits and breaks absolutely cannot be repaired, they will catch on healthier hair damaging that - trim the splits and breaks in the lengths by 'search and destroy' (cutting one at a time in good light with sharp scissors) or twisting small sections and trimming all the hairs that stick out.

Unfortunately hair is dead so damage cannot be permanently repaired, you should see some improvement within a couple of months but it might not be as much as you hope, depends how bad the damage to the structure is. Beneficial ingredients for damaged hair include coconut oil, hydrolysed protein, ceramides and panthenol. These can penetrate and also patch the surface.

From the photograph it looks like you simply didn't use anywhere near enough leave in conditioner, don't underestimate how much is needed it's loads even for hair that is shorter and thinner than yours. Your hair should feel like slimy seaweed when you are scrunching in your leave in conditioner, like you need to rinse it (but don't). If I have found the right conditioner that L'Oreal conditioner contains cetyl esters which is a wax, that built up so much for me as a leave in and pulled out all my curl.

I have high porosity colour treated hair and am currently loving Schwarzkopf Gliss (Kur) ultimate volume conditioner (protein and panthenol) which really boosts my waves and curls, and is available in Europe. I also do coconut oil soaks on dry hair as a pre-wash which makes a huge difference in reducing porosity, increasing elasticity, calming pouf and aiding definition.

IMO don't plop that long initially, you are only trying to stop your hair being soaking and dripping not getting it to dry, if you dry it too much with any fabric the frizz comes back and the wave is lost. It's not the same as towel turbanning, CG is always working with much wetter hair than you are used to. My hair often looks like barely wavey strings when I am done plopping or scrunching out the excess water, then miraculously bounces up as it air dries.

Clipping can help support the weight of longer hair, you can get Sibel brand roller jaw clamps on UK eBay which are the same as the Curly Hair Solutions ones
Roller Jaw Clamps, Curly Hair Solutions - YouTube
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
The ombre is intentional, but OLD - so most of it has been trimmed off when I do my ends. But it is really damaged too, and I keep trimming off, most often by the search and destroy method you mentioned too, but also just taking about half an inch off all strands once in a while.

I experimented a little with what you said about the leave in - I just use the conditioner I wash with also, and put a lot more in - and it helped A LOT too. I didnt feel like my hair would take any of the gel afterwards though, it was as if it was completely soaked with water and conditioner already and couldnt take anymore haha. I'm not used to working with my hair soaking wet, but I already think it's SO much easier than having to put products in towel-dried hair. I feel like it's easier to distribute, and I'm done with my hair even before stepping out of the shower yay

I bought the conditioner you suggested, and I'm going to try it within a couple of days. I never wash my hair more than 2 times a week, and I still dont have to with the co-washing - so happy about that.

About the coconut oil soak - I have only tried coconut oil on my hair twice, and both times it ended up being way too oily, I couldnt even get all of it out with my regular SLS shampoo back then - will the conditioner take all of it out?

I'm going to plop for a max of 30 mins, I saw somewhere thats the time it should take. we'll see! my curls never bounces up when drying. they are really curly and bouncy when wet, but is pulled out a bit when drying. I guess I'm more wavy than curly. I think I figured out I'm a 2b-2c, my hair is curling up a lot better already and feeling a lot healthier already after only 3 co-washes
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Hi,

I know just how you feel. Your hair kind of remind me of my own hair when I threw away all my sulfate and silicone products and stopped straightening a year ago. Please hang in there. Over time you’ll see a significant change for the better, a new curl pattern developing and it’s really worth the wait – trust me

Funny enough, I’m also 23 and Danish. The advice Firefox gave you is very good. Personally, I can’t live without weekly coconut oil treatments and lots of conditioner. I find that moisturizing is so important when you’re transitioning. If you look around this site it’s pretty easy to get overwhelmed with information. So I think starting out with focusing on moisturizing and keeping your routine simple is the easiest to do at first.

The first time I co-washed, used gel and plopped it looked even more horrible than yours. The first month was not fun and honestly, I constantly looked like a mess. Give it time and (slowly) definition will come.

When it comes to products on the Danish market I have some suggestions. However, as a student I go for the cheapest brands.

L’oreal elvital volume collagen (that you use) I use as well, but as my co-wash. Another option is Garnier Fructus Nutri-Repair. Tresemmé Naturals conditioner is a favorite of mine and a good choice for a normal conditioner and also a leave in as it is more moisturizing. It might be a co-wash option as well (and it won’t ruin your budget). You can also try Garnier Response Avocado Oil and Shea Butter which is a bit more moisturizing than L’oreal.

When it comes to gels the Danish market is not that great. I find that my hair needs tons of gel and that can be quite expensive. I use ‘Levevis’ (can be bought in Føtex among others) which costs 20 DKR. Also, Irma has one that’s okay.

Go invest in the organic coconut oil from Urtekram which can be bought in Netto or Føtex for 80-100 DKR.

Finally, John Masters is easy to find in DK (especially online) and although a bit more expensive, it’s worth investing in. Their detanglers are very good and also perfect to use as a leave ins. Mixing leave in (or Tresemmé) with desterilized water in a spray bottle to spritz daily can help your hair on the right track.

If you are looking for more Danish sulfate/cone free products check out this thread: Tråden om sulfatfri shampoo og silikonefri balsam/styling

When it comes to German products I have no idea – actually, I’m moving to Berlin next month so if you find any good products, please let me know.

And go celebrate your cone-free hair with a haircut. Length will come and you’ll be glad you did it.
Originally Posted by Nanni
That's awesome! What city are you from? I'm guessing Copenhagen or Århus now you mentioned Irma
My curls are getting better already, I'm a little surprised to see so much difference (to the better) so soon.

I am hoping to be able to keep with a simple routine - I have always used 5-6 different products when washing my hair, and I hated it - I want to be able to use a maximum of 3 products, I'm very much of a "keep it simple" kinda girl when it comes to my hair.

I'm going to check out the tresemme naturals and garnier too! I'm looking for some budget friendly products, hence why I'm also seeking german products since I have family near Flensborg, so I can send them out shopping for dirt cheap hair products!
Even though you feel like your hair couldn't soak up anything more, it would still help to use gel. The gel dries and forms a cast on the outside of your hair, which helps those curls you say are disappearing to stay in your hair. Then, when it's dry, just scrunch your hair, or pull it back as if you were going to make a ponytail, and the cast will break and fall off.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
Even though you feel like your hair couldn't soak up anything more, it would still help to use gel. The gel dries and forms a cast on the outside of your hair, which helps those curls you say are disappearing to stay in your hair. Then, when it's dry, just scrunch your hair, or pull it back as if you were going to make a ponytail, and the cast will break and fall off.
Originally Posted by Morgan_Adcock

I'm actually already doing all that, the scrunching out and all - I put lots of gel in it, but it's like it won't stick, my hair is not even getting scrunchy/hard like it would when I used mousse or gel in the past...
Some gels don't give a hard hold.

You need to experiment with different gels to find the hold you want.

Plus most curlies layer products.

In regards to conditioning with coconut oil you may be using too much. I'm sure there are threads on here telling you how to make home made deep conditioners like mayo, avocado, egg etc.
The ombre is intentional, but OLD - so most of it has been trimmed off when I do my ends. But it is really damaged too, and I keep trimming off, most often by the search and destroy method you mentioned too, but also just taking about half an inch off all strands once in a while.

I experimented a little with what you said about the leave in - I just use the conditioner I wash with also, and put a lot more in - and it helped A LOT too. I didnt feel like my hair would take any of the gel afterwards though, it was as if it was completely soaked with water and conditioner already and couldnt take anymore haha. I'm not used to working with my hair soaking wet, but I already think it's SO much easier than having to put products in towel-dried hair. I feel like it's easier to distribute, and I'm done with my hair even before stepping out of the shower yay

I bought the conditioner you suggested, and I'm going to try it within a couple of days. I never wash my hair more than 2 times a week, and I still dont have to with the co-washing - so happy about that.

About the coconut oil soak - I have only tried coconut oil on my hair twice, and both times it ended up being way too oily, I couldnt even get all of it out with my regular SLS shampoo back then - will the conditioner take all of it out?

I'm going to plop for a max of 30 mins, I saw somewhere thats the time it should take. we'll see! my curls never bounces up when drying. they are really curly and bouncy when wet, but is pulled out a bit when drying. I guess I'm more wavy than curly. I think I figured out I'm a 2b-2c, my hair is curling up a lot better already and feeling a lot healthier already after only 3 co-washes
Originally Posted by Fieeh
If you are not ready to try gel next time try EVEN MORE leave in, it is supposed to be squishy/ seaweedy/ slimy and clumped together and feel like you have way too much in, it will dry soft like magic. If you use too much one time you will know to back off. Two years on I am still amazed how much conditioner will dry right into my hair and be invisible except for some shine and lack of frizz.

Conditioner only styling is a legitimate technique that some here rave about, I do it some of the time so that I understand what my leave in conditioner alone is doing to my hair and how much to use. For me that Gliss (Kur) works as a conditioner only styling product, it doesn't always look so great when air drying (sometimes a greasy sheen or tangly) and then dries into bouncey sausagey clumps not stringy or greasy whatsoever. But I do need the balance of oil treatments in my routine, not just protein. YMMV.

Coconut oil comes out really well with conditioner washing, for many of us better than shampoo. This is because a basic lightweight oil free conditioner is packed with emulsifiers (mix oil and water). The surfactants in shampoo are the same ones in dish soap - when you use them to clean greasy roasting pans you always use HOT water, too hot for your head!

Just use loads of conditioner, and I mean LOADS, plenty of massage until you get a lather same as normal, leave to sit on your head for five or ten minutes or however long you are in the shower, rinse with massage and probably repeat. Don't stop until your hair feels 'squeaky' clean again. IMO work in sections if you have a lot of hair, it's easy to miss a spot and that matters when you have oil laden hair - I tend to miss my crown so I focus on that now.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
I use my denman brush to help me distribute my conditioner throughout my hair. It works we because I too miss my crown region. It also detangles my hair beautifully.
The ombre is intentional, but OLD - so most of it has been trimmed off when I do my ends. But it is really damaged too, and I keep trimming off, most often by the search and destroy method you mentioned too, but also just taking about half an inch off all strands once in a while.

I experimented a little with what you said about the leave in - I just use the conditioner I wash with also, and put a lot more in - and it helped A LOT too. I didnt feel like my hair would take any of the gel afterwards though, it was as if it was completely soaked with water and conditioner already and couldnt take anymore haha. I'm not used to working with my hair soaking wet, but I already think it's SO much easier than having to put products in towel-dried hair. I feel like it's easier to distribute, and I'm done with my hair even before stepping out of the shower yay

I bought the conditioner you suggested, and I'm going to try it within a couple of days. I never wash my hair more than 2 times a week, and I still dont have to with the co-washing - so happy about that.

About the coconut oil soak - I have only tried coconut oil on my hair twice, and both times it ended up being way too oily, I couldnt even get all of it out with my regular SLS shampoo back then - will the conditioner take all of it out?

I'm going to plop for a max of 30 mins, I saw somewhere thats the time it should take. we'll see! my curls never bounces up when drying. they are really curly and bouncy when wet, but is pulled out a bit when drying. I guess I'm more wavy than curly. I think I figured out I'm a 2b-2c, my hair is curling up a lot better already and feeling a lot healthier already after only 3 co-washes
Originally Posted by Fieeh
If you are not ready to try gel next time try EVEN MORE leave in, it is supposed to be squishy/ seaweedy/ slimy and clumped together and feel like you have way too much in, it will dry soft like magic. If you use too much one time you will know to back off. Two years on I am still amazed how much conditioner will dry right into my hair and be invisible except for some shine and lack of frizz.

Conditioner only styling is a legitimate technique that some here rave about, I do it some of the time so that I understand what my leave in conditioner alone is doing to my hair and how much to use. For me that Gliss (Kur) works as a conditioner only styling product, it doesn't always look so great when air drying (sometimes a greasy sheen or tangly) and then dries into bouncey sausagey clumps not stringy or greasy whatsoever. But I do need the balance of oil treatments in my routine, not just protein. YMMV.

Coconut oil comes out really well with conditioner washing, for many of us better than shampoo. This is because a basic lightweight oil free conditioner is packed with emulsifiers (mix oil and water). The surfactants in shampoo are the same ones in dish soap - when you use them to clean greasy roasting pans you always use HOT water, too hot for your head!

Just use loads of conditioner, and I mean LOADS, plenty of massage until you get a lather same as normal, leave to sit on your head for five or ten minutes or however long you are in the shower, rinse with massage and probably repeat. Don't stop until your hair feels 'squeaky' clean again. IMO work in sections if you have a lot of hair, it's easy to miss a spot and that matters when you have oil laden hair - I tend to miss my crown so I focus on that now.
Originally Posted by Firefox7275

OK I followed your advice for my wash yesterday - I tried the Schwarzkopf ultimate volume conditioner - I had to use SO much conditioner, I think I used 1/3 of the bottle just to wash, it felt like I couldnt clean my scalp at all. I tried using a lot of it for leave in as well until it felt very slimy and oversaturated - plopped my hair for 20-30mins, then my hair took about 5-6 hours to dry completely, and it now feels very coarse and is extremely frizzy and tangly. I cant run my fingers through my hair at all like I could before this wash I always have trouble with tangling/matting in my nape hairs, but never all over, even near my scalp.
It feels like my hair is not clean at all - I am not sure if this is because of this new conditioner, if I did something wrong, of if it's some kind of build up?

I am going to wait with the coconut oil until I've got the hang of this co-washing first - I dont want to experiment with too many things at once
Fieeh, it sounds like that conditioner was not a good fit for you--maybe like something in it has built up on your hair. I recently had an experience like that when my husband brought home the wrong conditioner.

You have gotten some good advice here, but do remember that everyone's hair is different. Not everyone's hair likes coconut oil, and my experience has been that it does NOT come out of my hair with normal co-washing--whether there's a scientific explanation for that or not.

I would suggest that you use a traditional shampoo on your hair to "start over" and then you get a bunch of different conditioners that you can experiment with co-washing (make sure they are all silicone-free). If it's a good fit for your hair, it really should feel good right away.

Sorry I can't help you with product recommendations !
Jessica
Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Sealer: Olive oil
Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
DT: olive oil and honey
Fieeh, it sounds like that conditioner was not a good fit for you--maybe like something in it has built up on your hair. I recently had an experience like that when my husband brought home the wrong conditioner.

You have gotten some good advice here, but do remember that everyone's hair is different. Not everyone's hair likes coconut oil, and my experience has been that it does NOT come out of my hair with normal co-washing--whether there's a scientific explanation for that or not.

I would suggest that you use a traditional shampoo on your hair to "start over" and then you get a bunch of different conditioners that you can experiment with co-washing (make sure they are all silicone-free). If it's a good fit for your hair, it really should feel good right away.

Sorry I can't help you with product recommendations !
Originally Posted by JessMess

I'm going to try everything I can, I am determined to stop shampooing for good because my hair already feels like its in much better condition so thats promising so far
I'm going to buy the tresemme naturals conditioner, I see a lot of people like it too, and it was recommended earlier in this thread as well - here's hoping it will be better! The only problem is, it's not THAT cheap to buy hair products here as it is in the US and UK, so I dont want to buy a bunch of different products - one at a time for me for now and I want to just focus on the right conditioner that I can use both for washing and as a leave in. What conditioner do you like to use?
I am a Tressemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture girl.

I only recommended shampooing in case you do have build-up from something (which it sounds to me like maybe you do). Shampooing just once will remove the build-up and give you a clean slate. Whatever you decide, good luck!
Jessica
Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Sealer: Olive oil
Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
DT: olive oil and honey
I am a Tressemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture girl.

I only recommended shampooing in case you do have build-up from something (which it sounds to me like maybe you do). Shampooing just once will remove the build-up and give you a clean slate. Whatever you decide, good luck!
Originally Posted by JessMess
I just washed with the Tresseme naturals conditioner I bought yesterday - I'm in love! It works better than any of the other 2 I tried (Schwarzkopf and L'oreal) and it smells heavenly It doesnt feel like I have any buildup now, so I think it was just the Schwarzkopf conditioner that didnt work for me.
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Hooray! So now--check the ingredients in both the Tresemme and the other conditioners and look for the differences. It will start to give you some idea of ingredients that your hair does and doesn't like. Will let you continue to experiment with other products but with somewhat less guesswork.
Jessica
Type 2c: coarse, high-density, low porosity (so it would seem)
Avoiding protein and glycerin; going for soft, non-crunchy, frizz-free waves
CO & RO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Sealer: Olive oil
Leave-in/Styler: Kinky Curly Knot Today
DT: olive oil and honey

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