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Old 08-16-2013, 06:16 PM   #21
 
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KCCC is a big no from me. I'm glad I finally ran out so I don't feel like I have to keep trying with it lol. It just doesn't have enough hold, maybe those with a stronger curl pattern have better luck? For me it's ok for the first part of the day but by the end of the day it's fluffy and frizzy with no definition. ;( guess I just get to stick with the cheap Volumax mega. Super hard hold but SOTC's wonderful all day hold is huge for me
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KCCC is a big no from me. I'm glad I finally ran out so I don't feel like I have to keep trying with it lol. It just doesn't have enough hold, maybe those with a stronger curl pattern have better luck? For me it's ok for the first part of the day but by the end of the day it's fluffy and frizzy with no definition. ;( guess I just get to stick with the cheap Volumax mega. Super hard hold but SOTC's wonderful all day hold is huge for me
All day hold is big for me, too, because of the wind here. I definitely can't get it with KCCC alone, but I can't get the results I get with KCCC + BRHG with anything else (including BRHG alone or combined with something else). SS CHJ + FHG is a close second, and I'm still experimenting with that, but KCCC/BRHG are easier to get so still #1 on my list. I imagine KCCC has enough hold for some, but I don't think it's really meant to have great hold.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:41 PM   #23
 
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My favorite way to use it is half way through my pixie diffusing. I think it's a pretty common method here- cant remember what it's called (I get a little confused between super soaker, ice queen, pixie diffuse, etc!). But I use Bioterra cream, then Bioterra gel mixed with a bit of hard hold like LALSG or BRHG in soaking hair. Then I plop for 10, then pixie diffuse for about 1 minutes per section, 5 sections. Then I scrunch in a pretty decent amount of KCCC. I pixie for another minute per section, and my waves spring up into curls. There is a ton of shrinkage which I really like! There is literally an inch difference between the sections I've diffused and the ones I haven't once I get the KCCC on. I then let it air dry the rest of the way and SOTC. It holds up beautifully for me and I get second or third day hair 70% of the time.
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:47 PM   #24
 
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I'm waiting now for my iherb order and I'll have kckt and kccc. I'm curious about what the results will be.
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:23 PM   #25
 
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Wavyroo I think it's called the smasters method!
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Old 08-17-2013, 06:33 PM   #26
 
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That's it wavydaze! That was driving me crazy.

So I like the smasters method
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Old 08-17-2013, 10:12 PM   #27
 
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I smasters with it, too (that just looks totally wrong grammatically)--KCCC with just a dab of BRHG. Great shrinkage, which I like.
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Old 08-17-2013, 10:39 PM   #28
 
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(Excuse the short answer, I swear it's validated)

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Old 08-18-2013, 12:41 AM   #29
 
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I don't know if anybody can definitively answer this question for you. For one person, it might be absolutely worth it and a total HG. For another, it's just a waste of money. I'll tell you something though--when I really want to try something I almost need to try it. It's like an itch that can't be scratched. Might be worth it just to spare yourself the fear of "the one that got away".
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:24 AM   #30
 
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I love KCKT. It's a HG leave-in for me and I have repurchased it every time I've run out since first trying it years ago. For thin/fine hair, it's lightweight, excellent detangler, and doesn't weigh my hair down. I alternate it with another LI that I like, depending on whether i am co-washing that day or not.

KCCC was good, but hard to figure out the right amount/mix for my hair. Also, seemed like it made my slow-drying hair take even longer to dry.
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:29 AM   #31
 
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I don't know if anybody can definitively answer this question for you. For one person, it might be absolutely worth it and a total HG. For another, it's just a waste of money. I'll tell you something though--when I really want to try something I almost need to try it. It's like an itch that can't be scratched. Might be worth it just to spare yourself the fear of "the one that got away".
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:28 AM   #32
 
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My favorite way to use it is half way through my pixie diffusing. I think it's a pretty common method here- cant remember what it's called (I get a little confused between super soaker, ice queen, pixie diffuse, etc!). But I use Bioterra cream, then Bioterra gel mixed with a bit of hard hold like LALSG or BRHG in soaking hair. Then I plop for 10, then pixie diffuse for about 1 minutes per section, 5 sections. Then I scrunch in a pretty decent amount of KCCC. I pixie for another minute per section, and my waves spring up into curls. There is a ton of shrinkage which I really like! There is literally an inch difference between the sections I've diffused and the ones I haven't once I get the KCCC on. I then let it air dry the rest of the way and SOTC. It holds up beautifully for me and I get second or third day hair 70% of the time.
I am definitely going to try your KCCC smasters method, WavyRoo! I usually use KCCC after RO/LI

I like KCCC and use it almost every time; now that I've been using it consistently, it will be interesting to see how quickly I go through a tub. I also have it in a pump jar and if I like your method, I'll be using a lot more. It is expensive, but IMHO, well worth it since it does good stuff for my hair
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:37 AM   #33
 
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Haven't tried the smasters method (will have to put that on my list of experiments!), but I really enjoy the KCCC. With every product, it can be a miss for some people, but with the large amount of people who DO enjoy it, it couldn't hurt to try it out! You can get the 8 oz size from Target which isn't as big a commitment as the larger 16 oz size, and if it doesn't work out, you can easily swap it since so many people like/use it.
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Old 08-18-2013, 02:32 PM   #34
 
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Before I bought Kinky Curly Curling Custard, I tried something I'd read about here on naturallycurly.com, which was to mix a few drops of jojoba oil with aloe vera gel in your hands, then scrunch that into your freshly washed hair. I really liked the results in my hair, so I decided to try the KCCC, which I like even better. I sometimes use the AVG+jojoba oil in my dry hair at bedtime when my hair turned out particularly well that day, and I want to make sure I have great hair the next day. I also tried the Kinky Curly Knot Today, and was so totally underwhelmed by it that I finally threw away the rest of the bottle after having it for at least three years.

Another "substitute," which I really love, is Kiss My Face Upper Management. It's a lot cheaper than KCCC. It has a fresher, lighter aroma. However, I don't know if Kiss My Face is available in Canada. I usually get mine from VitaCost.com, and I see that LuckyVitamin also carries it.

But, hey, you lucked out on having Curly Hair Solutions, the makers of Curl Keeper, Tweak, SLIP, and other great products in Canada! You've also got A|G, the makers of re:coil (curl activator)!
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Old 08-18-2013, 03:46 PM   #35
 
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Thanks for mentioning the KMF Upper Management Gel. I keep meaning to try this! Added it to my vitacost list.
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Old 08-18-2013, 04:26 PM   #36
 
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I also really like KMF gel, but it has very light hold- not nearly enough on its own, IMO. I like to put it over a mousse.
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Old 08-18-2013, 04:36 PM   #37
 
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Will be interesting when I try it then, since I like firmer hold gels. But for the price, I will buy it in my next order and experiment.
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So weird, I was just browsing products in Target after recently trying out (and not really liking) Shea Moisture curl gel/souffle, and saw this product. I was so tempted to try it, since it's mostly all natural (which I can't seem to find in any product), but the price tag made me put it back...
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:35 PM   #39
 
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My kckt and kccc arrived today and I tried them out. I have these awesome controlled curls that are soft and cooperative. I'll have to see how it holds up in the long run. I have to say though, I can't decide how I feel about the smell. Between the custard smell and the fruity kckt, my hair kind of smells like I fell in a dessert buffet. Hurray for more curls and less frizz though.
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after using vo5 he last few days, I found out its just like kckt. It detangles so well just like knot today.

soooo not buying anymore of knot today
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