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curlyhead77 08-17-2013 06:44 PM

More than one porosity
 
Is it possible to have more than one porosity type? I did the water test on two strands. One had been highlighted with about two inches of growth. Yes, I need to do something about that but thankfully curly hair covers roots well. The other hair was from around my neck and wasn't colored. The colored part of the first strand sank and the root section floated. The one from my neck is still floating. Does coloring hair change porosity and how do you maintain and care for hair with two diff porosities? Help!

chloe92us 08-17-2013 07:19 PM

The hair float test is notoriously unreliable. But, yes, coloring does affect porosity, and it is possible to have more than one type of hair on your head. New growth, for example, is different from damaged old growth.

curlytwirlykate 08-17-2013 09:18 PM

The question is, how does one successfully work with more than one porosity? My roots are virgin, LOW porosity. They dry within ten minutes after a shower! There's about three inches of that, and then BAM! High porosity! 3+ hours of drying time in my super fine hair! Styling products that work great for the roots don't work well on the length. Products that are great on the length just sit on my roots!

:banghead:

curlyhead77 08-17-2013 10:35 PM

EXACTLY CTK!!! It's hard to condition and style!

kathymack 08-18-2013 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by curlytwirlykate (Post 2200653)
The question is, how does one successfully work with more than one porosity? My roots are virgin, LOW porosity. They dry within ten minutes after a shower! There's about three inches of that, and then BAM! High porosity! 3+ hours of drying time in my super fine hair! Styling products that work great for the roots don't work well on the length. Products that are great on the length just sit on my roots!

:banghead:

Actually, you have the porosity thing reversed. Low porosity hair takes a LONG time to dry because the cuticle is "tight." Highly porous hair "gives up" moisture easily. So, your length should dry faster if it's porous and your roots slowly because they are low porosity.

The attributes of absorbing product are correct--your porous length absorbs quickly and it sits on your roots for a long time.

curlytwirlykate 08-18-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kathymack (Post 2200714)
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Originally Posted by curlytwirlykate (Post 2200653)
The question is, how does one successfully work with more than one porosity? My roots are virgin, LOW porosity. They dry within ten minutes after a shower! There's about three inches of that, and then BAM! High porosity! 3+ hours of drying time in my super fine hair! Styling products that work great for the roots don't work well on the length. Products that are great on the length just sit on my roots!

:banghead:

Actually, you have the porosity thing reversed. Low porosity hair takes a LONG time to dry because the cuticle is "tight." Highly porous hair "gives up" moisture easily. So, your length should dry faster if it's porous and your roots slowly because they are low porosity.

The attributes of absorbing product are correct--your porous length absorbs quickly and it sits on your roots for a long time.

Oops!

So... why would my overly-processed lengths (which really do seem to be highly porous) take forever to dry? And why do my virgin roots dry in a flash? I clearly don't have this porous thing down ;)

Regardless, I still don't know how to work with both effectively. Always learning, I guess!

chloe92us 08-18-2013 10:14 AM

Kate,it's probably more likely that the ends take longer to dry because they have more product on them, and your roots have less....

curlytwirlykate 08-18-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chloe92us (Post 2200771)
Kate,it's probably more likely that the ends take longer to dry because they have more product on them, and your roots have less....

That was my original thought, too... so then I clarified and went a few days without product (because I need to know, right? ;)).

Same thing! What I think is happening, though, is that my roots aren't taking much water in to begin with. I've noticed that even in the shower, they tend to feel dry. My showers are usually under three minutes (really utilitarian), but today I decided to sit under the showerhead until my roots really felt soaked. Took much longer than that.

chloe92us 08-18-2013 12:46 PM

Lol, "hard to get wet" is another sign of low porosity! ;)

curlytwirlykate 08-18-2013 02:08 PM

Ah! So I DO have low porosity roots! Thanks for helping me figure that one out, ladies.

And curlyhead77 -- very sorry for derailing your thread!!

JessMess 08-18-2013 02:21 PM

I am sure that it is possible to have multiple porosity types on your head--hair is supposed to increase in porosity when it is damaged.

For myself, I certainly notice that my somewhat fried canopy dries a lot faster than the underlayer (though to some degree that's true of everybody--the canopy is exposed to air, after all); however, even it seems to retain low-porosity characteristics: still pretty slow to dry, tough to get it to absorb products. It sounds to me like your hair may be lo-po through and through, but it behaves differently based on whether it's "virgin" lo-po or "damaged" lo-po.

Slow-drying ends would make sense. Your hair is holding onto all that water instead of releasing it into the air--it's just gravity that a disproportionate amount of that water ends up in the tips. My roots are always dry way, way, way before my ends.

Re. your roots, are you a co-washer? Working on your technique may help get them saturated in the shower. You're supposed to vigorously massage your scalp/roots with the pads of your fingers. With the right co-wash, that should lift the cuticle to get both water and moisture in.

curlytwirlykate 08-18-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JessMess (Post 2200851)
It sounds to me like your hair may be lo-po through and through, but it behaves differently based on whether it's "virgin" lo-po or "damaged" lo-po.

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Re. your roots, are you a co-washer? Working on your technique may help get them saturated in the shower. You're supposed to vigorously massage your scalp/roots with the pads of your fingers. With the right co-wash, that should lift the cuticle to get both water and moisture in.

Thanks for the feedback, Jess! According to the analysis I just had done (just had the phone interview yesterday!), my roots ARE low-po, and my length/tips are high-po. So... there we go.

And yes, I am a cowasher. I co-wash pretty much daily, and will spend much of my 3-minute shower massaging with my finger pads. It works great, but the hair doesn't really absorb much (water, condish, product... whatever!). But the virgin hair doesn't really have an issue, either. It feels great and moisturized always, regardless of if I've co-washed or not, or if I've saturated the hair or not! It's a good problem to have... I expect that my hair will be rather low-maintenance when it's all virgin.

What I'd love is for the lighter products which work great on my roots to work well throughout! But after experimenting for a few days, I think I finally found it! I tried a homemade FSG -- which hasn't worked well for me in the past, but I made it really thin and added gelatine. It's AMAZING so far!

Thanks for the help, all!

curlyhead77 08-18-2013 06:52 PM

No problem at all! We are all here to help E/O and sometimes I get lots of it from reading other convos. ;). My roots take forever to dry as does the underneath layers. Sometime the more I try to figure out, the more I end up confused.


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