For those of you who use Soap or Shampoo Bars!

I have some questions! I've tried to go full CG, but that's just not an option for me, so I've opted to switch to Poo bars since daily to ever other day cleansing is a must for me. I've been using some samples I had from CCrafters on Etsy but have some samples on the way from BoBeam that I am SO excited to try out. Anyway... My questions:

First. Do most of you use conditioner with the bars? I did at first but now my hair seems to feel pretty moisturized just after the bar! I don't think I can not condition out of habit though. Haha!

ACV... I tried it a couple of times and like how it worked with my hair. But... the smell. I'm not fond of it, and my husband is appalled by it. And I know the smell is supposed to disappear, but not for me. I can smell it when I start to sweat. Its like it seeps out of my pores and thats ALL I can smell. Not pleasant. Could it be because I am *not* using an organic one? I have a large cheap gallon that I was trying to use up before and going to get some Bragg's but I don't know if I can deal with the smell.

Are there any other alternatives to ACV?? Some type of rinse is a must for me.. I believe I have hard well water. Or is it okay to mix a little conditioner/ACV rinse and do it that way, maybe the smell wont be as strong as a straight (diluted) vinegar rinse?

Styling products... Now, I mostly straighten my hair because of work. I have to pull it back because I sweat alot and theres no point in having perfect curls when they're just going to get nasty, frizzy, and hairy (I work at a dog wash!). I would like something smoothing and protecting that is easily removed with a soap bar, with the occasional clarifying treatment.

I'm sure I have other questions that I can't think of right now.. so I may ask more later. :P
I've had many failed attempts with shampoo bars, but that's probably because I have very hard water. I can't speak for that... but...

The alternative to ACV rinse (I found that the bugs were flocking to my head.. eww. I use ACV for a fruit fly trap, what was I thinking!?) is a citric acid rinse. Although, this will burn your skin if you rinse straight up in the shower - at least it did mine. So you would have to be super careful with this.

I personally needed conditioner, just because the buildup was so gunky and drying to my hair. Just be aware that saponified oils are a form of salt (however if superfatted correctly, they will deposit some beneficial oils onto your hair). They might not be the most beneficial to your hair.. but if you have soft water it may not be too much of a problem.
Funny I never had that acv problem. Some people rinse it out and others don't, also might wanna try a spray bottle. You could try bs washes followed by acv. Also experiment with other things like tea rinses, eggs etc. There endless possibilities and ways. Citric acid may not be the way to go in my opinion if it gives you that kind of reaction

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Sometimes I get carried away and manipulate him too much. He tells me he's fine on his own but I never listen. I wash him less now and all in all we're happy.
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You could also use essential oils in the acv to help with the smell and infusing your acv is a good option too. Are you diluting it?

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Sometimes I get carried away and manipulate him too much. He tells me he's fine on his own but I never listen. I wash him less now and all in all we're happy.
Beast's Favorite Things:
Shea Moisture
Kinky Curly
Curl Junkie
Natural Stuff
BC #2: 10/2/13
2c/3a/3b w/ loose botticellis, whirls and curls,
Coarse, High Porosity;CG since 2007
Lime juice worked really well for me as an ACV substitute. Eventually, though, I found a poo bar that worked for me with just conditioner and no need for a rinse.
2c, fine/medium, low porosity, normal elasticity, protein-sensitive

Modified CG
Low-Poo:Chagrin Valley Cafe Moreno shampoo bar
RO: VO5 Blackberry Sage Tea
LI: Goth Rosary Daily Use Hair Conditioner/Humectant
Styling: L'Oreal Melting Gel, Nightblooming Triple Moon Hair Anointing Oil
I have some questions! I've tried to go full CG, but that's just not an option for me, so I've opted to switch to Poo bars since daily to ever other day cleansing is a must for me. I've been using some samples I had from CCrafters on Etsy but have some samples on the way from BoBeam that I am SO excited to try out. Anyway... My questions:

First. Do most of you use conditioner with the bars? I did at first but now my hair seems to feel pretty moisturized just after the bar! I don't think I can not condition out of habit though. Haha!

ACV... I tried it a couple of times and like how it worked with my hair. But... the smell. I'm not fond of it, and my husband is appalled by it. And I know the smell is supposed to disappear, but not for me. I can smell it when I start to sweat. Its like it seeps out of my pores and thats ALL I can smell. Not pleasant. Could it be because I am *not* using an organic one? I have a large cheap gallon that I was trying to use up before and going to get some Bragg's but I don't know if I can deal with the smell.

Are there any other alternatives to ACV?? Some type of rinse is a must for me.. I believe I have hard well water. Or is it okay to mix a little conditioner/ACV rinse and do it that way, maybe the smell wont be as strong as a straight (diluted) vinegar rinse?

Styling products... Now, I mostly straighten my hair because of work. I have to pull it back because I sweat alot and theres no point in having perfect curls when they're just going to get nasty, frizzy, and hairy (I work at a dog wash!). I would like something smoothing and protecting that is easily removed with a soap bar, with the occasional clarifying treatment.

I'm sure I have other questions that I can't think of right now.. so I may ask more later. :P
Originally Posted by coconutty
Soap is alkaline (pH 8++) so damaging to skin (pH~5.5) and hair (pH ~4.5). Soap does not moisturise hair, might leave an oily film or you are feeling the results of the vinegar flattening the cuticle on the hair.
Porosity and Curly Hair

You might try white vinegar or a citric acid rinse instead of ACV. You need the acidity not just for mineral deposits from well water but to prevent soap scum and reset the pH of your hair after the alkaline soap.

If you straighten you will need heat protectant - most are silicone based so need sulphate surfactants or cocoamidopropyl betaine shampoo to shift. Other ingredients that help protect from heat damage include hydrolysed protein, some polyquats, glycerin and propylene glycol.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect

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