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Lauraimes 09-13-2013 06:56 AM

FSG let me down today
 
Oh, how I love my FSG! It's just 400 ml water to 4 tbsp flaxseeds and 1/2 tsp honey added and generally speaking this works miracles for my hair. I still have not come to making big batches, so I planned ahead and made a fresh batch just last Wednesday evening since I needed a good hair day today for a cremation. I think it's very respectful to look neat on such an occasion.

So this morning I went through my more elaborate routine, wetting my hair in the shower, using a conditioner and all. But when the time came to apply FSG and I put a glob on my hand, I noticed the smell. I noticed the flecks. It had gone bad whereas they were brand new flaxseeds and it came right out of the fridge where it has been since I made it last Wednesday. This has never occurred before; my FSG normally lasts well over a week, and even two weeks are no problem if properly refrigerated.

I'm disappointed and while I will continue making and using FSG, I really do want to have another styling product at hand when something like this happens again, even if I do freeze the bigger batches in the future.

I've stumbled upon the Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Gel thread, and it sounds very promising. I suspect this product will be available in the Netherlands at a reasonable price so I'm curious to hear whether it meets my expectations of a styling product and if not, what else I should definitely consider.

A styling product should:
- Provide some definition
- And a little hold
- Frizz is not an issue for me
- Polyquats and cones are
- It should be light (my hair gets weighed down easily)
- It should not need layering

Any thoughts on the GF gel or other recommendations are welcome!

kathymack 09-13-2013 08:06 AM

I'd invest in a preservative! If your FSG got to the point that it smelled off and had flecks, there were probably things growing in it long before that. I know that my first batch, with no preservatives, smelled off after 3 days at about 62 degrees.

Firefox7275 09-13-2013 01:55 PM

Use a preservative, mucilage plus honey plus water is serious food for microbes.

Lauraimes 09-13-2013 02:19 PM

Do you have any suggestions as to what preservatives I should use?

curlytwirlykate 09-14-2013 07:18 PM

Wow, Laura! Same story here (except for the cremation part... I'm very sorry for your loss!).

I'm REALLY interested in preservatives, also. My FSG is my holy grail, but it's been so hot around here and the gel is going bad much too quickly for my liking. Any suggestions, wonderful community?!

anonymous_133347 09-14-2013 09:51 PM

Laura, do you refrigerate your FSG? I'm surprised it went bad so quickly. Maybe the seeds had spoiled? I put mine in the fridge but I add lavender, vitamin e oil and AVG as natural preservatives. It's good for 2-3 weeks.

chupie 09-14-2013 11:35 PM

Look at these recipes. http://science-yhairblog.blogspot.co...-projects.html

Lauraimes 09-15-2013 05:15 AM

@Kate: Thank you. And it's frustrating, isn't it? I could last for a week with one batch, easily! Now I have to make two batches a week and quite honestly, I don't really have time to do that, even though it's not an arduously long task.

@Dusa: Yes, I refrigerate the moment my FSG has cooled down quite a bit.

@chupie: Thanks for the link! That's actually the website I got the recipe from (though I never went beyond the basic recipe...).

Firefox7275 09-16-2013 07:00 AM

Maybe it's a 'dirty' batch of seeds, you might soak them briefly in a drying alcohol before boiling them up in a clean pan with clean water.

IAgirl 09-16-2013 05:38 PM

This may help you with preservatives: Science-y Hair Blog: Preserving Your Homemade Hair Gels

There are some bacteria and fungi that won't be killed by boiling (that's why we pressure-can non-acid foods - to get a temperature above boiling), but it's more likely it was contaminated after preparation. Here's more about that: Science-y Hair Blog: When Good Bottles Go Bad

Also be sure you wipe down surfaces with bleach solution or isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol to be as sterile as possible. At first it seems like a hassle, but it becomes second-nature quickly. I keep a cleaned-out dish soap bottle with pre-mixed bleach solution on the kitchen counter to make things easier.

wavydaze 09-17-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by IAgirl (Post 2209365)
Also be sure you wipe down surfaces with bleach solution or isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol to be as sterile as possible. At first it seems like a hassle, but it becomes second-nature quickly. I keep a cleaned-out dish soap bottle with pre-mixed bleach solution on the kitchen counter to make things easier.

This is a stupid question, but after you wipe down your surfaces/containers with bleach or alcohol, do you rinse them off or just dry them?

Firefox7275 09-17-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wavydaze (Post 2209512)
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Originally Posted by IAgirl (Post 2209365)
Also be sure you wipe down surfaces with bleach solution or isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol to be as sterile as possible. At first it seems like a hassle, but it becomes second-nature quickly. I keep a cleaned-out dish soap bottle with pre-mixed bleach solution on the kitchen counter to make things easier.

This is a stupid question, but after you wipe down your surfaces/containers with bleach or alcohol, do you rinse them off or just dry them?

Wipe dry (fresh disposable paper) or air dry, if you wet or use a reusable cloth you have contaminated the equipment again.

wavydaze 09-17-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefox7275 (Post 2209517)
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Originally Posted by wavydaze (Post 2209512)
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Originally Posted by IAgirl (Post 2209365)
Also be sure you wipe down surfaces with bleach solution or isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol to be as sterile as possible. At first it seems like a hassle, but it becomes second-nature quickly. I keep a cleaned-out dish soap bottle with pre-mixed bleach solution on the kitchen counter to make things easier.

This is a stupid question, but after you wipe down your surfaces/containers with bleach or alcohol, do you rinse them off or just dry them?

Wipe dry (fresh disposable paper) or air dry, if you wet or use a reusable cloth you have contaminated the equipment again.

Ok, but then wouldn't there be traces of the bleach/alcohol in your FSG, or would the amounts be negligible?

chupie 09-17-2013 12:42 PM

I think alcohol evaporates really fast.

Firefox7275 09-17-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wavydaze (Post 2209526)
Ok, but then wouldn't there be traces of the bleach/alcohol in your FSG, or would the amounts be negligible?

Alcohol evaporates completely as Chupie says, the amount of bleach left if you wipe over would be negligible as you say.

Lauraimes 09-17-2013 11:09 PM

Thanks for all the input! The links are definitely useful, but I'm surprised about the ingredients... I have no clue where to get them!

Curlini 09-18-2013 08:13 AM

I've ordered from Premium ingredients at less than premium prices... Lotioncrafter

IAgirl 09-21-2013 01:57 PM

Late to the party here - sorry. Surfaces can air-dry. I wipe down my utensils and containers for mixing with alcohol and put them on a dry paper towel as a "clean" surface.
When you clean out a bottle with bleach solution or rubbing alcohol, follow up with a rinse with either distilled water or water you have brought to a boil (to kill bacteria) and then let cool enough so it won't melt your bottle. Then turn it upside-down to let the water drip out. I usually have to rinse 2-3 times to get all the bleach etc. out.

CurlyGrey3 09-21-2013 02:53 PM

Is that just for bottles you can't wipe? I use glass Mason jars and I just wipe with an alcohol soaked cotton ball and let air dry. Do I need to rinse that?

IAgirl 09-22-2013 03:50 PM

An open-mouth jar sterilized with alcohol doesn't need rinsing. You inspired me to try Mason jars for FSG - and I like them!
The alcohol evaporates. But any narrow-mouth plastic bottle that you can't get all the alcohol out of (or if you used bleach) needs rinsing. I like bleach better for plastics.


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