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Old 09-15-2013, 02:02 PM   #1
 
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I have been sulfate free and silicone free for a year and a half. I have switched between co washing and sulfate free shampoos the whole time. My hair seems to be ok but maybe I'll start a different topic on that aspects another time.
My hair is very fine and I think 2b. It also gets oily quickly because of it being fine I think. I can shampoo every other day but on the second/third day I have to wash because it is so oily. I use a sulfate free shampoo such as shea moisutre and it looks clean. However if I co wash with something such as aubrey organics or natures gate conditioner it is very oily by the next day. I want to use a natural cleaner for my hair and I like the low pooing but I want more natural and to be able to go a few days without cleaning. I'm just confused if I'm doing something wrong or if my hair is just going to be this was since it's fine. I don't think it's a transitioning period problem since I've been low pooing for so long already. Any suggestions?
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Old 09-15-2013, 04:26 PM   #2
 
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When I first started CGing, my hair was super oily. I realized pretty quickly that there was a good chance that it was because my scalp oil glands were trying their best to catch up with my super aggressive program to strip them out of my hair. Because I'm a nurse, I always wanted to shower and shampoo when I got home. However, my hair would do weird stuff overnight, and (I now realize) because of the silicone coating I wasn't able to dampen it effectively to get it to restyle, so I'd often wash it again in the morning.

Once it all clicked for me, I started coating my hair with conditioner before low-pooing my scalp. Then, after rinsing, I'd do a co-wash, hoping to calm down my oil production. It helped, and very quickly! I was soon able to start co-washing without low-pooing first some of the time. At first it was just one out of every three or four times, but it became more and more frequently, and I'm sure that by the end of the first month I was able to co-wash every other time. After that, my need to low-poo really slowed down, and at this point, five years in, I can rarely remember when I did my last low-poo.
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:57 AM   #3
 
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I have been sulfate free and silicone free for a year and a half. I have switched between co washing and sulfate free shampoos the whole time. My hair seems to be ok but maybe I'll start a different topic on that aspects another time.
My hair is very fine and I think 2b. It also gets oily quickly because of it being fine I think. I can shampoo every other day but on the second/third day I have to wash because it is so oily. I use a sulfate free shampoo such as shea moisutre and it looks clean. However if I co wash with something such as aubrey organics or natures gate conditioner it is very oily by the next day. I want to use a natural cleaner for my hair and I like the low pooing but I want more natural and to be able to go a few days without cleaning. I'm just confused if I'm doing something wrong or if my hair is just going to be this was since it's fine. I don't think it's a transitioning period problem since I've been low pooing for so long already. Any suggestions?
Are those conditioners suitable for co-washing, are they rich in emulsifiers (fatty alcohols and cationic surfactants) and low in oils and butters? The vast majority cleansing ingredients that are found in shampoos and cleansing conditioners are lab made, most plant extracts have little to no cleansing power, oils and butters will just make roots greasy. If you want truly natural go for soap nuts or soapwort extract or consider egg washing.

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Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:44 AM   #4
 
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Thank you both for your input! I guess I'm just confused as to why my hair would be so greasy on day 2 using the conditioner verses being cleaner for longer with the shampoo. It seems clean when I wash with the conditioner but maybe the kind I'm using isn't cleansing enough? It natures gate and aubrey organics so maybe it has too many oils and plant extracts.
What do you guys recommend for a light cleansing conditioner? My hair is fine and really soft so it isn't dry.
I've heard about soap nuts but I'm not sure if I want to go down that route yet and making it I'm too lazy :P
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:04 AM   #5
 
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Thank you both for your input! I guess I'm just confused as to why my hair would be so greasy on day 2 using the conditioner verses being cleaner for longer with the shampoo. It seems clean when I wash with the conditioner but maybe the kind I'm using isn't cleansing enough? It natures gate and aubrey organics so maybe it has too many oils and plant extracts.
What do you guys recommend for a light cleansing conditioner? My hair is fine and really soft so it isn't dry.
I've heard about soap nuts but I'm not sure if I want to go down that route yet and making it I'm too lazy :P
There are a lot of products in those two lines so I don't know what the ingredients are. Most US citizens here use Suave Naturals or VO5 to cleanse, you really don't want much in the way of oils or butters at all. You should build up a light lather and hair should feel 'squeaky' when done.

You can purchase soap nuts extract and soapwort extract, you might even be able to find shampoos based on them. Fine or thin hair often does better with sulphate/ anioinic surfactant free shampoo than co-washing, people tend to prefer the body. Fine hair also tends to do well with hydrolysed protein and few oils or butters as these can weigh the hair down.
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CO-wash: Inecto coconut
Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Experimenting with: going back to basics
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