Haircut tonight, super scared!

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So I decided to go with a stylist my friend referred me to, but I'm super scared! My friend has straight hair, so not sure how this is going to turn out. I spoke with the stylist on the phone and told her what I wanted, and she says she'll be able to do it for me. She says she normally cuts dry, so at least that's a plus! I told her no razor! She seems to understand curl shrinkage.

As for what to ask for - see the attached picture. I need some shape. That's what I told the last stylist... I need shape, and I'm growing my hair out. I guess the stylist translated this as "I'm going to stack the back and give you a bob just like all the other ladies that have walked out of this salon before you and cut your hair all off even though you're growing it." Literally, everybody walked out with the same haircut! I should have ran right then and there. Anyhow.. she cut my hair in the back so there's like nothing left to curl so it just waves in random places and is getting very poofy (thick) underneath. I was seriously so upset! I had the length how I wanted it, I just wanted some shape! So now I'm scared to tell any stylist that I want shape.

Hopefully this turns out alright, I'm tired of my shelf and misplaced long hair in the front. Do I ask for face framing long layers? Blending? I don't know?

I'll post an after picture. If it turns out horrible, I may need to rely on you guys for some help! I've always taken pride in having good hair, so if someone messes it up, I get mad.

Crossing fingers.
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Dangit, I forgot the attachment... d'oh!
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If this isn't too late...

No razors, no thinning shears, no thinning with regular shears any of those things can fray and rip your hair.
Peace,
Morgan

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I thought this lady and I were on the same page, but we totally were not. I told her exactly what I was looking for and got almost the complete opposite of what I asked for. I told her I onlneeded one part "fixed"... The front. And before I knew what was happening, started in the back, I looked up and saw she was texturizing my hair!!! You should have seen my face!! I freaked. And at that point, I wasn't going to walk around with a thin spot on one part of my head, so I just let her do her thing. She went literally crazy with the thinning. She only did the ends, so I was hoping I would still havnough weight for my curls.

I do not. I can't scrunch my hair, it sticks straight up in a large U shape. I am pretty devastated. Part of me wants to shell out that $150 now to get it fixed. I want to cry.
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Oh, no! I'm so sorry to hear this! Please accept my sympathy I've been in the chairs of lying hairdressers' way too many times. I think that for some the lie is that they know anything about curly hair. For others it's that they care what you want, know how to do it, and are going to follow your wishes. Both are reasons curly girls leave salons in tears. This is ridiculous that we have to put up with this crap! And on top of that, we have to pay for the cut and tip them.

When you calm down enough, be sure your submit a rating for this stylist here on NaturallyCurly.com.
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Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
Ditto to what Morgan said Really, really sorry to hear about this bad experience. This has got to be all the more distressing because this is the second time you've taken a risk with someone and had the risk back fire on you. I can understand if your confidence is temporarily shot. This happens to a lot of us, too many of us, unfortunately. So not that it helps much, but you definitely aren't alone when it comes to nightmare stylists.

Sounds like this debacle is mainly due to your friend's hair stylist not being skilled with curly hair.

Not sure if you had completed your research on stylists in your area, but if/when you decide you have the confidence and desire, you can make an appointment for correction with a curly hair stylist for whom you've gathered plenty of evidence - online reviews, website showing clients with curly cuts, yt vids if available, etc. - showing they're good with curly hair. In lieu of that, you can make an appointment to actually watch the curly stylist in action. I think you had said something about driving into the city to see a curly stylist who was far cheaper than those cosmetology career criminals charging $150.

ETA: Just a reminder that another perfectly viable option is to sit this one out - just leave your hair alone for a minute and let it grow a bit before allowing shears near it again. But that assumes the cut is tolerable enough for you to want to do that, of course.
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Last edited by Korkscrew; 10-09-2013 at 01:27 AM.
Thanks for the support ladies. I have not gotten a good night sleep at all. Every time I think about it I want to cry and my heart just sinks. At
Least the last lady who touched my hair, even though she took off length in the back, at least knew enough to just cut it. With scissors. I even told this new lady on the phone I wanted scissors.

That's my question... Do I get this fixed right away, or do I wait? I will have to go significantly shorter. I actually made an appt with the expensive salon for Thurs, but then sent a following email asking if I should wait until some hair grows back in. I hope they give me an honest answer. I don't have time right now to go all the way out to Chicago. At this point it'd be worth the money, that's how much I hate my hair right now.

In the meantime, what the heck do i do with it?? I can't wear it down, it doesn't curl right, it just sticks straight out, especially on one side. I braided my hair last night hoping it will turn out wavy and be OK. If not, pigtails for the next however many months.

I'm so mad at myself. I know I shouldn't be... Ugh. I'll have to get a picture of the damage, its awful.
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The picture with the orange shirt is what my hair looked like after the braid out. Then I messed with it a bit and took the picture with the pink shirt.

I'm glad I was able to make it look decent enough to wear in public, but it's such a bad cut. My ends look like they have been SO fried, but they aren't even dry.

If anybody can learn from this - I think it's better to go with a more expensive good quality cut than a cheapie where the stylist pretends she will do what you want, but then refuses when you get there and does her own thing without telling you what she's going to do. I also loved how she told me to brush my hair straight every night to "disperse" the oil in my hair, like they did in the olden days. Honey no. Omg no.

This has seriously scarred me, and I keep having flashbacks to her face when she was ravaging through my hair like a madwoman. I think I'd be better off with a chunk taken out of one part of my hair than my whole head. I'm kicking myself.
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If it were me and I had anything like split ends from a razor, or the cut were significantly uneven, I'd go ahead and cut it again to even it out and then leave it alone for a while.

It get the sense it doesn't look as bad as you think it does.
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I'm leaning toward getting it fixed. My ends are way too horrible to keep.

It really doesn't look absolutely terrible or anything. It's more the fact that I finally loved my hair and got it healthy, and now it's ruined. My hair was my thing, and now I don't have it anymore.

But it will be ok. Thanks
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You're welcome! Hahaha ... looking at those last pics you posted, I'd say your hair is still your thing (and no, I'm not just trying to flatter you) I think this will all be a distant memory very soon.
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i agree with all that was said, especially about reviewing that stylist on this site. she may be good with straight hair, but not for curlies. it's important to keep curlies informed.

i've been there, we all have unfortunately. i drive into the city (without any traffic at all, 50 minutes, but there is ALWAYS traffic at some point but if i get a 9 am sat morning appt, it's usually reasonable travel time) and then pay for parking to get my hair cut by my stylist who is 'the curl whisperer.' everytime i start to consider how great it would be to go to a local place, can go any day, any time, but i would be too afraid and know i would regret it.

people think curly hair is so easy, they have no idea!! like we can just get it cut anywhere and just stick it under water, wash, dry and go, because it's 'curly and it's easy.' LOL! no idea!

honestly, your hair still looks good in the photos. and you did get your hair to a very healthy point, so it should grow out nicely. i know it's not what you want, what you clearly told her, but relative to what she could have done..... i've had mullets!! 'holes' in the back of my head. all because they cannot see curl patterns, shrinkage. i also once went to a local stylist that was recommended on this site, had a consult with her, and ended up with a mullet. i am lucky that i can get into the city and that i do have a great stylist that cuts my hair. others are not so lucky. and that i can go months between cuts. i hope your new stylist, whenever you do go, is what you want. it's worth the search when you find someone who can understand and respect your hair.
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Rbb, well said

I like your idea about getting an early appointment for the reason you mentioned (beating traffic). Also, I like to get the first appointment of the day, if possible, so that my stylist is (hopefully) well-fed, energetic and still has optimal focus ... as opposed to, you know: her already feeling tired from all the curly customers she cut and styled before me. I don't want to be the giant hairball surprising her/him at the end of the day because I have an obscene amount of hair: Imagine you're some reasonably talented curl stylist looking forward to your last customer of the day when Slash's sister hops into your chair I mean sure it's less curly than his, but not by much. Big manes can be challenging for anyone IMO.
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I sympathize with you. But your hair is already on the short side and it doesn't really look that bad. You may be better off letting it grow a bit before trying to get it corrected. Or make an appointment with the expensive stylist for a consult and see what she/he suggests.
You girls have no idea how much better you have made me feel today! My boyfriend just cannot understand why I've been so upset and doesn't know what to say to cheer me up, because he's just not a girl with curly hair.

That IS a good idea about getting an early appointment. I do have a consult tomorrow, and I made the stylist aware of my situation. I'm not sure what we're going to do, but she says in person is best so she can see what we're dealing with, which I totally agree. And you're right rbb, it could a LOT worse!! I just totally freaked out when my hair didn't do its normal thing when wet. I washed it again tonight and parted it over toward the side that she went a bit crazier on. I feel like I have sort of "holes" here and there, but it's not like she scalped me, thank goodness. It's doing a bit better than last night.

I'm not sure if I can review the stylist, as she works from home. Is there a way to do that? I'm not hip to writing reviews yet.
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Glad we were able to help. I'm always grateful for others' curly-haired wisdom too

Yes, you can create a review page for a business (even someone's home business) on Yelp and then leave a personal review. You would have to sign up (it's free) for their site first, I believe. There's probably a way to do create a review page here too, or you could simply start a thread based on a review about that stylist.

When I'm looking for reviews on stylists, my first stop is Yelp and my second stop is this site
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Hey I don't think is that bad!!!
You just have to grow it out for a couple of weeks!

In the meantime, I suggest you to do twist out (I have some tutorials on my channel youtube The BEST Wavy TWISTOUT Ever - YouTube), that way you can have a more controlled wave during the growing out phase.

And you have a GORGEOUS hair color!
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korkscrew --i laughed when i read your description of your hair!! actually, if the stylist truly loves curly hair, i bet they are thrilled to see your hair! seriously. any time of day. it's what they do best.

sixelamy -- i would leave a review on yelp as korkscrew suggested. then i would try to leave one here. you would leave it under the location, the town and state, and for 'salon,' either leave it blank or just put in her name. if we are going to rely on a place for info, we need to hear it all.

and as riccicapricci suggested, when you have time twist outs could be interesting.
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Thanks gals! Yelp is always at the top of my list for reviews too. I just hope she doesn't search for herself, I would feel bad! lol I'm too nice, that's my downfall.

Thanks riccicapricci! My hair color has changed since going CG, which is really weird. I've tried twist outs before and they didn't work very well. I don't know if I did them properly, so I will have to try again. My hair didn't seem to want to stay twisted, but I supposed I could use smaller sections next time. I'll be watching your video later!

Seriously, thank you guys so much! Now I'm off to write some reviews..


Edit: When you add a review to this site, does it have to be approved first? I wrote this huge long review and pressed submit, but it's not showing up.
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Last edited by sixelamy; 10-10-2013 at 07:19 AM.
i assume they review them first. it does take a few days for a review to appear after you've written it.
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styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine

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