Am I the only one who doesn't like devacuts?

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I could actually tell before she was done with the dry cut this was going to be great.
I will never, and I mean never get a DEVA cut again. It was the worst cut I have ever had, and my hair is still growing out from it after 2 years. I know that people may say it may have been the stylist I have, which could be true, but I don't agree in the method of the cut anymore. I did at once, but no longer. I just don't think the cut is for me.
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I guess it's a personal preference on whether you want to have totally even hair or not. After my hair has grown out a bit, I can see why people may not like it. (I still am in love with mine though!) The hair definitely is uneven (when held straight) and it's taken me a little bit to get used to that, since I'm so OCD about being balanced. BUT.. it has been SO MUCH easier to handle and curls a lot more since my first one a month ago, and to me that's a win!

I saw a really old thread on someone bashing the Deva cut. I feel like some people may not fully understand the cut going into it. I don't think that's the case with this thread though, but it's something I have observed as a whole.
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I've also had two devacuts (from two stylists with excellent reviews here) and didn't like them at all. Both times I left the salon with stringy, uneven and very short hair. And both times I had to go to a regular salon fix those cuts with a regular wet cut.
Deva products are OK to me, although I haven't bought and/or used them in a while.
Originally Posted by Ms.Cabernet
I also had two Deva Cuts in a row and hated both of them, I lost a lot of my curl because they shingled my head with 3 layers of hair, none of my hair clumps together anymore, its just all stringy while I grow out the last cut. I'm hoping that in a year, the last of the Deva cut will be gone so I can start over again with my Jonanthan Torch salon stylist who always cuts my hair beautifully. I wish I had never been wooed away to have the Deva cuts but once I did I thought I should have a least two to give it a fair chance. I'll never do Deva cuts again.
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im not a big fan of them because the only cuts ive seen is the thinner bottoms of hair and the second layer being cropped up.
Originally Posted by hambo02
this is what happened to me both times only I got a super short canopy/top layer thrown in too.
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Some hair doesn't "like" a bunch of layers. So, from that perspective, venturing into Deva cut territory can be a gamble for some people.

I recall my first DC. In retrospect, the layers were spread out a bit too much and what resulted was a bit of a disrupted curl pattern in back, probably because that's where my curl pattern varies the most. After experimenting a little, I realized there were 2 solutions. The first was annoying: finger combing and styling the hair in small sections. The second was something stylists often do anyway: after finger combing, shake the hair out a bit with w/the hand and then flip the head over to break up the sections of hair and "release" the curls.

I think people with curls that are 3b/3a and looser are more likely to find unevenly spaced layers more challenging, because their curl patterns are weak enough already to get easily disrupted. And since there's some spacing btw. layers in most DCs, it's likely some of those layers will look stringier, while thicker and stronger curls will look "piece-y".

Just a theory and I understand there are exceptions to everything.
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This is random but does anyone have any suggestions to get ur hair growing back instead of just vertically? What I mean is, for the life of me my hair never can be pulled back. It always parts itself right down the middle which drives me crazy because it gives me pyramid hair and my hair is always in my face
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I feel the same way. When I style my hair curly it will always look like a pyramid, with Deva cuts or not. That's why I don't see the point of having a Deva cut if my hair's shape will always look the same.
When I style my hair straight it lays in nice layers, that's a different story.
I wish I could be part of this debate lol! Unfortunately in the UK I think there's only one Deva-trained stylist and he is in Birmingham (way too far for me to travel).

Sucks, because I'm dreading where I'm going to get my next hair cut. I'm trying to look everywhere for salons that at least do a dry cut. Thankfully, I don't have to worry too much as I'm not due for a cut until around February.

I will say this though - I'm not a huge fan of layers in my hair. And I've heard some horror stories of what they CAN look like, so I'm steering clear. At my last haircut, the stylist suggested layers and I looked at her wide-eyed. Maybe when my hair is longer I'll try it. As it stands though, especially with my hair length, I don't really see the point.
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This is random but does anyone have any suggestions to get ur hair growing back instead of just vertically? What I mean is, for the life of me my hair never can be pulled back. It always parts itself right down the middle which drives me crazy because it gives me pyramid hair and my hair is always in my face
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Mine does the same thing.. parts straight down the middle. I wonder if you could clip it while wet in a way that it will fall back, instead of to the sides. I've been considering trying this myself.
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This is random but does anyone have any suggestions to get ur hair growing back instead of just vertically? What I mean is, for the life of me my hair never can be pulled back. It always parts itself right down the middle which drives me crazy because it gives me pyramid hair and my hair is always in my face
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Have you tried side partings? If you wash your hair in a side part and style it in a side part it should stay that way? Or has that already failed you lol?

Also root clips are good for controlling how your hair dries / looks / parts at the roots!
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This is random but does anyone have any suggestions to get ur hair growing back instead of just vertically? What I mean is, for the life of me my hair never can be pulled back. It always parts itself right down the middle which drives me crazy because it gives me pyramid hair and my hair is always in my face
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Mine does the same thing.. parts straight down the middle. I wonder if you could clip it while wet in a way that it will fall back, instead of to the sides. I've been considering trying this myself.
Originally Posted by sixelamy
I've tried that and it goes back right away. Not to mention it gets stretched out very easily, so any time my hair is clipped or pulled back even slightly, it loses the curl there
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This is random but does anyone have any suggestions to get ur hair growing back instead of just vertically? What I mean is, for the life of me my hair never can be pulled back. It always parts itself right down the middle which drives me crazy because it gives me pyramid hair and my hair is always in my face
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Have you tried side partings? If you wash your hair in a side part and style it in a side part it should stay that way? Or has that already failed you lol?

Also root clips are good for controlling how your hair dries / looks / parts at the roots!
Originally Posted by BotticelliBrit
I've tried both things without success
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My hair tends to part too. It's almost like the hair "remembers" how it fell the last time it was wet and then dried. It sometimes takes 2 wash/dry sessions where I purposely part it on the side before it stops parting in the middle. So really, you might just need to "train it" a couple times to part in a different place.

Another thing that works, although it's slightly a PIA, is: while wet, section the hair off in front (or wherever your part is strongest) and finger style the curls in that section in the direction you want.
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Korkscrew and Skorpio: so what do we think about having to tell a lie, because someone won't accept our "No"? its as if the stylists you mentioned are drug pushers; what part of NO dont they understand? It s fine to offer products but it is NOT Ok for the patron to feel they are being forced to purchase something they do not want. I suggest that you say "NO" and then simply do not respond to any more pressure, zip your mouth(s) shut. You - we - should not have to lie when we dont want to buy something. Just my two cents.
Myrna, I'll admit to playing politics And I'm a fan of strategic white lies in the face of silly behavior, for the sake of personal amusement. I see no problem with a lie about allergies: It's a fun, creative response to a sales pitch - a little lie that turns the sales pitch game around on the pitcher and makes her or him STFU

In general I enjoy creative lies in the face of aggressive sales pitches. About a year ago I told Jehovah's Witnesses who came preaching at my front door that I'm a priestess of the "dark arts". I asked them to bend over a little so I could pluck a few strands of their hair to place on my alter. That got them backpedaling fast, it was loads of fun (for me), and I think word got around, cause no one else has showed up trying to pedal the "Watch Tower" mag since. If I'd just said no, I would have had less fun and more JW's knocking on my door in the near future.

More to politics: You said, "I suggest that you say "NO" and then simply do not respond to any more pressure, zip your mouth(s) shut."

That's one noble response. Each client gets to decide how much is "too much" pitching before she begins ignoring her stylist but somehow still hopes for the best cut possible (or finds herself getting up from the chair).

For me, if someone has already proven to do wonders for my curls, I won't get my knickers in a bunch over aggressive sales pitching. First, because it's merely a mild annoyance for me - nothing to make a federal case out of. More importantly, if s/he is otherwise respectful and gives one fierce curly cut, I understand that she will do her best work when she isn't on the defense.
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I feel like the deva cuts are awesome for me but only when its done to my hair the very first couple of times. Like say you have straight one length hair and you get a deva. Then you let it grow in again and get a post deva deva. After that things go down hill for me. I love Massey's techniques. I just hate how the ends get so thin after awhile.

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I feel like the deva cuts are awesome for me but only when its done to my hair the very first couple of times. Like say you have straight one length hair and you get a deva. Then you let it grow in again and get a post deva deva. After that things go down hill for me. I love Massey's techniques. I just hate how the ends get so thin after awhile.

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Originally Posted by bringingcurliesback?
i've had only deva cuts for 8 yrs and my ends have never gotten thin. someone isn't doing something right.
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The three Deva stylists that I've been to have managed to leave my ends thin and the rest of the hair cropped, short and uneven.
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I feel like that's common with devas though. You must have surely gotten an awesome stylist. That's probably why I've had issues. Otherwise I love it. I also am not the biggest fan of the way I have had my hair styled by them. Idk. How are ouidad cuts?

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