Loosening Curls?

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Hi there!

I have mostly 3b hair, however, some areas are 3a. My hair is very thick when it's curly, however, when it's straight it's a lot looser (obviously because there are no curls). I've been wanting to get chemical straightening done, however it's absolutely rubbish for the health of your hair, as are chemical relaxers. I was wanting all over 3a/2c hair, but is this even possible without using any heat? I've looked online EVERYWHERE but I can't seem to find anything. I've come across the milk and honey treatment, but I'm not sure if its just going to make my hair sticky.

If you've done anything to loosen your curls (doesn't have to be permanent) please let me know!

Danielle
One of the quickest ways to loosen curls (it's permanent) is to use a texturizer, which is basically a chemical relaxer, but weaker so that you retain some curl ... or a regular relaxer can be used but would be left on for a fraction of the usual time. But it will cost you more than the $$ you pay for it. It will probably cost you some of the "health" of your hair. Relaxers tend to dry hair out and can possibly cause other problems. Plus there's no guarantee you (or someone else) will loosen it to the exact curl pattern you want. And well, there's almost always a price to pay for using chemicals.

There are some natural methods others may want to share (probably impermanent methods), but I'm more about curl acceptance, having fought against my natural pattern long enough to have gotten sick of the price I had to pay for going against nature, whether it meant too much extra time spent or issues from chemicals or heat damage. (Plus I just love my curls.) Your hair sounds pretty. Maybe you could go to the 3 forum first and see how folks w/3b curls are managing theirs.
3b/c?

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Protein treatments: coconut milk, henna, cassia, milk & honey (honey should not be sticky in hair if it is combined with another ingredient) can loosen hair texture but be careful because too much protein can make hair rigid.

Manual manipulation: chunky twist/braid outs, bantu knots, cocoon curls (my favorite), use of curlformers (oh, wait. that's my favorite too) and certain banding techniques will allow you to set hair to the desired texture
Protein can backfire via more than dryness. It tends to tighten curls rather than loosen them as a result of improved elasticity so that some of those treatments above aren't too affective for some. But hey, Alicia you probably listed it because you've found it worked for you, right? Anyway, Often, protein overload can be nasty. It can create fly-away hair w/an irregular curl pattern and it's prone to breakage and it can take weeks to bring the hair back to normal (I OD-ed on protein a while back and it took about 2.5 months to come back from it, even w/regular DCs).

Henna is unreliable as a curl loosener. Some of us experience curl loosening, but it's not a science: there's no way to know ahead of time how much the curl might loosen prior to a henna treatment. Plenty of people don't have curl loosening or loss at all. Also, the process of hennaing is ... well, highly involved lol, to say the least.
3b/c?

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Last edited by Korkscrew; 11-10-2013 at 03:42 AM.
Thanks for the quick replies!

I was also wondering that if thinning your hair would loosen the curls? My hair isn't particularly thick, I just have a lot of it so I'm thinking that's why is gets so.. 'stiff' when it dries haha. If I got it thinned out more would that contribute to the loosening of the curls or is it just wishful thinking?
You can try these no-heat curls tutorials to get the type of curl you want without damaging your hair. She has SO MANY on her YouTube channel:

beautyklove - YouTube
MadQueen and asagi like this.
Allie

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You can try these no-heat curls tutorials to get the type of curl you want without damaging your hair. She has SO MANY on her YouTube channel:

beautyklove - YouTube
Originally Posted by BotticelliBrit
This looks great!
Just need to find a way to prevent shrinkage when doing the braids for some of the hairstyles
Yikes! No to the thinning! Not unless you want a tangled mess of frizz, and I'm guessing you don't. My mother used to insist on having my hair thinned (with thinning shears or razors) when I was a kid, then she'd complain that it tangled and frizzed. Of course it tangled and frizzed. The hairs had no way to snuggle up together so they looked like curls any more. And all those loose ends just tied up in knots.

I know it's hard to do, and I'm sure I've had longer to work this through than you have, but the best gift you can give yourself is to accept what you have, give your hair what it needs, and let it do what it does, and it will be its best. If you try to make it something it isn't, it will get damaged, and look damaged.

If you want to change it up a bit once in a while, try Curlformers. They can give you looser curl, or tighter curl on a temporary basis, without harming your hair.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
Really? I've thinned my hair out a couple of times and for me it's made my hair more manageable! I'll give the curl formers a go, thanks for your help
Yeah, hair thinning does work for some people, despite most people telling all curlies to avoid it. But technique is really important and it truly is a gamble.

For some (like me) slide cutting here and there works (makes my curls look "piece-y"), but for some it leads to stringy curls and split ends. I haven't and probably won't ever try using actual thinning shears on my head.
3b/c?

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When I was younger I got my hair thinned out. Only the underneath part though. I didn't get extra frizziness or more tangles. It was more manageable. Also it doesn't make you lose your curl pattern. I've tried the perm thing. Destroyed my hair plus bleaching. Hair was so thin. It took 2 years to get it manageable and to a point of being healthy. I have 3b spiral curls. I just got it under control a week ago of being CG for about 8 months now. I would do braids if I wanted a looser curl. Sometimes my natural curl pattern wanted to fight against it.

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Yes, really. Thinning shears and razors tend to shred your hair ends, rather than cut them cleanly. Also, for my hair, which all ends with little circles, having lone hairs going in circles makes it easier for them to tie themselves in knots. When the curls get to group themselves together, they seem to resist this much better, and since they're able to snuggle together they look like curls rather than pushing off of each other and looking like frizz.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
The worst haircut I've gotten is a tossup between a pseudo-mullet I received when 12 years old and an enthusiastic thinning cut I received over a year ago. For the record, I think the mullet grew out more quickly. Proceed at your own risk.
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