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Old 03-03-2007, 05:24 AM   #1
 
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Default If we're supposed to stay away from cones then why....

do so many of the styling products for sale on this site have them in it? Is it okay to use them in styling products? Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but I'm new.
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:44 AM   #2
 
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do so many of the styling products for sale on this site have them in it? Is it okay to use them in styling products? Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but I'm new.
Staying away from cones is only one option. There are plenty of curlies who like to use and do use cones.

If you are doing the "no shampoo" method (ex. curly girl), you need to stay away from cones.
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:00 AM   #3
 
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In my experience cones are good for my hair, they do the job they are made to, seal in the moisture.

CG curlies avoid them because to get cones out you need sulphates, curly hair is prone to dryness and shampoos with sulphates in strip the hair of moisture adding to the dryness issue.
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:08 AM   #4
 
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Yes, what Brio said.
And there are quite a few products that don't have cones that are sold in CurlMart. Curly Hair Solutions CurlKeeer, AG Re:coil, Curl Junkie's curl creams, Batia and Aleeza gel (has a water soluble cone, so it washes out easily), Jessicurl's stylers, Mop Top gel and pomade, Blended Beauty's stylers, Miss Jessie's curly pudding are just a few products that don't have cones.

The main thing with cones is to watch for the buildup that they could cause if your not using an apporpriate cleanser. Otherwise, cones are fine. With cleansers, you don't want to use something that's too harsh that could dry out your curls/waves; that leads to lifeless, limp hair that won't curl or wave like it should.

You just have to find your own balance that agrees with your hair.
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:25 AM   #5
 
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This is so overwhelming. I don't use shampoos with chemicals. I always choose the natural/organic shampoos/conditioners. So, I guess cones are out for me. Thanks for everyones help. I've gotten some really great tips since coming to this site.
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You don't use shampoos with chemicals, eh? I am being silly and picking on ya, but unless you are using ultra-purified water to wash your hair, you are using chemicals...well, even then, I guess (as water is a chemical too!).

Anyway, most organic/natural (I use that term loosely, as there is no regulation of what is put in these products) still contain a cleansing agetn (i.e. a surfactant), and most of those are capable of removing silicones.
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:31 PM   #7
 
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This is so overwhelming. I don't use shampoos with chemicals. I always choose the natural/organic shampoos/conditioners. So, I guess cones are out for me. Thanks for everyones help. I've gotten some really great tips since coming to this site.
Relax, there's no need to feel overwhelmed. In reality it's not always necessary to stay away from all 'cones while on CG. For instance, amodimethicone is actually in the Deva line of products developed by the creator of CG and very few people have problems with it. I have on occasion used products with different 'cones (including the "dreaded" cyclopentasiloxane ) and didn't find it necessary to shampoo. My greatest "epiphany" happened a few years ago during a long trip to the Dominican Republic. Due to the heat and high humidity down there my hair turned into a ball of "poof" and I used a hair cream with dimethicone that I'd taken with me "just in case" every time I styled my hair (which was about 3X/wk) and save for one day during my first week there (out of 6) I didn't have to shampoo.

Coincidentally, I started to use a white vinegar rinse at every wash/rinse because I also developed a sudden case of oily dandruff, I believe that along using a CO that contained 3 different essential oils (which I'd read could help break down 'cones and other "plastic" resins in styling products) prevented the formation of buildup. With all that said, I still feel 'cones are for me a "drastic emergency measure" that I prefer to do without during normal times.

Of course, because of other factors like quality of water, condition of the hair, etc. not everyone's hair would react like mine and the only way to find out is by experimenting should the "need" arise.
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Some 'natural' brands do still use the harsh sulfates, so check your labels. Also, take a look at the non-shampoo board, whereyou can get lots more info on the CG philosophy & compare product reccommendations.
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