Reducing porosity?

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  • 1 Post By Firefox7275
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This is quite random, but I was thinking about my hair today and it occurred to me that since going CG my hair has changed porosity.

My hair used to be highly porous. I could load it up with butters and creams and a 100 different products *slight exaggeration* and it would absorb it all up no problem. Plus it'd dry lightening fast.

Now my hair is low porosity. I can't use heavy butters and such, certain products weigh my hair down, and my locks can take AGES to dry.

Has anyone else experienced this? I do overnight coconut oil treatments and I recently read somewhere coconut oil can reduce porosity. Or maybe it's because my hair was so heat damaged before and now it's healthy again it's just returning to it's true porosity (low)?

I'd be really interested to see if anyone has had a similar experience!

(It's worth noting I haven't had a hair analysis done yet, so I can't say 100% what my hair properties are; I'm just going by how it behaves.)
3A with some 3B thrown in. Medium porosity. Medium Thickness. High density.

Pre-poo: Organic Virgin Coconut Oil
Low-poo: SM Coconut & Hibiscus shampoo / ElastaQP Créme Conditioning shampoo
Conditioner: Jason Moisturising Aloe Vera Conditioner

D/C: Experimenting!

Leave-in: Baptism rinse
Styler: Ouidad Climate Control Heat & Humidity


UK curly. CG since October 2013.
Aiming for WL curls (eventually)
As hair gets healthier, it's common for the porosity to change. Especially going from damaged/high porosity hair to healthy normal porosity hair.

If you can do overnight coconut oil treatments, I'd question your being low porosity. At least that's my experience. It would take my hair DAYS to absorb straight coconut oil, unless you're talking a minute amount. To me, that wouldn't be a treatment. I can't use minute amounts of the SM Coconut & Hibiscus products. Even though I wet and use a rinse out every day, they stay in my hair. I have to wash them out with natural soap bars or lowpoo.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
My hair doesn't absorb all of the oil, but it does absorb a fair bit (I think). I wrap it in a plastic bag though and then wrap it an a towel too, so it gets really warm and opens up the cuticle to absorb more of the oil.

I'm pretty sure I'm LP as my hair takes forever to dry and, like I said I above, I can't use creams or butters on my hair as they weigh it down and make it look lank. I've had such better hair days now I'm using more water-based gels and leave-ins.

If I treat my hair like it's LP it looks good, so I'm going with what's working lol. I'd definitely be interested in getting a hair analysis done, so I could find out for certain! I just want to find somewhere in the UK that does it, as postage to one of the US services is SO expensive

One thing is for sure; my hair has definitely changed now. It feels so moisturised, whereas it used to ALWAYS feel super dry. I can really see / feel the difference from my heat-damaged hair to my recovering hair

Anyone else had experience with porosity changes?
3A with some 3B thrown in. Medium porosity. Medium Thickness. High density.

Pre-poo: Organic Virgin Coconut Oil
Low-poo: SM Coconut & Hibiscus shampoo / ElastaQP Créme Conditioning shampoo
Conditioner: Jason Moisturising Aloe Vera Conditioner

D/C: Experimenting!

Leave-in: Baptism rinse
Styler: Ouidad Climate Control Heat & Humidity


UK curly. CG since October 2013.
Aiming for WL curls (eventually)
Postage for a lock of hair should not be expensive to the US, it's not heavy nor bulky and you don't need recorded, if it gets lost you just mail out another one.

Goosefootprints on Etsy is incredibly cheap for what you get, TBH she is underselling herself. You should be able to share an envelope with another UK resident if postage really is that pricey.

Hair doesn't have to be high porosity or low porosity, it can be anywhere in between. Does your hair take ages to dry naked with no conditioner or styling products, or ages to dry when loaded up?

You don't give any sort of timescale for the change, do you mean the damaged hair is behaving differently or that you have grown out/ cut all that off and your virgin hair is totally different?

You can reduce the porosity of the cortex with penetrating oil treatments - even potentially achieve saturation - it doesn't sound like you have reached low porosity if your hair is still absorbing the oil.

Note that damage to the cuticle can only be patch repaired which is temporary/ short term. A damaged cuticle is at risk of build up when all the binding sites are taken. This is because some ingredients bond better to damaged areas than a healthy virgin cuticle.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Sorry if that sounds negative, and I'm not doubting your hair had changed. It's great you are really noticing a difference and I am sure it is real - but maybe you are underestimating the difference in behaviour between normal porosity and very high porosity. I know mine has changed massively in three years, but I am still dying so my hair cannot logically be low porosity.
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2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
I think it's definitely possible that you lowered your porosity with good care, coconut soaks etc. If you think it's behaving like normal-low then just treat it as such.
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2BC/f/II. fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Low-poo: Jason Mango bodywash
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

light moisture, hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
Neutral on cones.

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Hair doesn't have to be high porosity or low porosity, it can be anywhere in between. Does your hair take ages to dry naked with no conditioner or styling products, or ages to dry when loaded up?

You don't give any sort of timescale for the change, do you mean the damaged hair is behaving differently or that you have grown out/ cut all that off and your virgin hair is totally different?
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
It'll take ages to dry whether it's 'naked' or loaded with products.

Time-scale wise, I'm talking over the past two years or so. Of course, I only became 'fully CG' in October as that's when I cut off all my straight ends and started following the method somewhat religiously, but for a couple of years before that I was a mod-CGer and had been doing the coconut treatments.

Can LP hair really not absorb oil at all then?!
3A with some 3B thrown in. Medium porosity. Medium Thickness. High density.

Pre-poo: Organic Virgin Coconut Oil
Low-poo: SM Coconut & Hibiscus shampoo / ElastaQP Créme Conditioning shampoo
Conditioner: Jason Moisturising Aloe Vera Conditioner

D/C: Experimenting!

Leave-in: Baptism rinse
Styler: Ouidad Climate Control Heat & Humidity


UK curly. CG since October 2013.
Aiming for WL curls (eventually)
Sounds like you have grown out the worst of the damage if not all of it.

As I understand it penetrating oils tend to be a disaster for low porosity hair, they sit on the surface - coconut oil can often make it hard and stiff. It's not simply about 'raising' the cuticle to let the fatty acids in but where they go. Obviously KathyMack is way more knowledgeable on low porosity hair than I am!!

My hair has holes blown in the cortex because I lighten with peroxide (spaces where melanin pigment used to be). I don't notice obvious absorption of coconut oil, but TBH I tend to load the stuff on (tablespoonsful). Those with naturally low porosity virgin hair won't have those holes in the cortex.

If you truly have low porosity hair there is little benefit to doing coconut oil treatments, you don't need to reduce the porosity still further. You might be interested in a thread over on Long Hair Community about the Movie Star Method AKA coconut oil shampoo and their descriptions of saturation.

I wonder if you have some build up, that could mean hair would take an age to dry even without adding more conditioner/ styler. Would also mean loading heavy products on could make hair feel lank. You might double clarify then air dry naked and see what your hair does then?

HTH.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
I don't think I have build-up because my hair doesn't look greasy or feel lank and I have recently clarified.

This is all really interesting though! I'll have to air dry without product again one day and see how my hair behaves. Though it'd have to be a day where I'm not going out, because without product I tend to rock a frizz 'fro
3A with some 3B thrown in. Medium porosity. Medium Thickness. High density.

Pre-poo: Organic Virgin Coconut Oil
Low-poo: SM Coconut & Hibiscus shampoo / ElastaQP Créme Conditioning shampoo
Conditioner: Jason Moisturising Aloe Vera Conditioner

D/C: Experimenting!

Leave-in: Baptism rinse
Styler: Ouidad Climate Control Heat & Humidity


UK curly. CG since October 2013.
Aiming for WL curls (eventually)

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