My hair plus Las Vegas = absolute disaster.

Alright, forget I ever complained about my hair in the Seattle rain. I'm begging for it now. I'm in Vegas for an academic conference and, with little thought, stuck to my 'usual' routine of B2B pom conditioner, GF C&S leave in, LOOB, and HE SMU. I used more conditioner than I normally do, knowing I'm in the desert.



My hair has never been this flat and just plan blech before. It's awful. So, so very, very flat and not nearly as curly as I know it can be.

So - I ask another climate question. How do you change your routine for heading into the desert?
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My hair has never been this flat and just plan blech before. It's awful. So, so very, very flat and not nearly as curly as I know it can be.
Originally Posted by sfisher323
I know exactly what you mean! Ever since I moved to UT, my hair has been the same way. I've actually found that I need LESS moisture now than when I lived in PA. It makes no sense to me, but that is what I've noticed.

Maybe a more well informed curly could explain this to us?
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My hair was the exact opposite! OMG, funny how that is! I was in Vegas about 2 weeks ago for a week and my hair was amazing with very little frizz.

I did co-washed with V05, OneC as a leave-in and then Angell. I did LOOB once, but it made my hair too greasy, but for the most part I had amazing Vegas hair.

I haven't been able to get my hair to look like this since: *sigh*
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CurlyQTPie: How beautiful you & your hair are!!!

Sorry, I have no input to the subject, just wanted to comment on QTPie & I hope your conference went well ---my hair gets flatter & less poufy in the dry weather, but frizz is greatly diminished so it sort of seems to curl better, if that makes any sense. I'm clueless about weather-related routine change, since I always think my hair needs more moisture...I guess hold is the defining factor...?
Hmmmm...

Maybe this has everything to do w/ your hair type. Myself, Curly Girl Fla and sfisher all have 2-ish or 3-a hair type, while QTPie (I <3 your hair, btw) has a much tighter curl. So, QTPie loved the effect of less volume and frizz b/c her curls stayed, where as for the rest of us this caused our hair to go flat and "blah".

Still doesn't explain why you need LESS moisture in the desert though...
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Hmmmm...

Maybe this has everything to do w/ your hair type. Myself, Curly Girl Fla and sfisher all have 2-ish or 3-a hair type, while QTPie (I <3 your hair, btw) has a much tighter curl. So, QTPie loved the effect of less volume and frizz b/c her curls stayed, where as for the rest of us this caused our hair to go flat and "blah".

Still doesn't explain why you need LESS moisture in the desert though...
Originally Posted by Kasey314
Hm. The different hair types could definitely be part of it.

But yeah, the LESS moisture in the desert is truly confusing . . .

And CurlyQTPie - you have gorgeous hair!
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Thanks for the compliments, guys!

sfisher -- but I can't get it like that back here in California! Go figure! When I was there it was kinda warm, but not overly warm.

I don't know about it being dry there. It gets real humid in the summer, so maybe it was more humid when I was there?

It sucks to travel and not know exactly what your hair is going to do. We are going all over this summer and I am going to keep my fingers crossed I can tame my mane everywhere we go!
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I was in Vegas a few weeks ago, too, and I found that if I used less conditioner and less shampoo my hair was awesome! It was shiney and smooth and very curly. I think it looked better there than it does at home. I think it has something to do with the water there. One of my friends told me that they have very "soft" water there so it's not very harsh on your hair.
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It seems like I read that in humid weather, sometimes hair becomes frizzier because it is reaching out into the air for moisture. Thus putting more moisture in your hair than what's in the air will combat the frizz. Dry air doesn't cause the hair to reach out as much so you don't need so much conditioner in arid climates. I don't know if that's true or not. I tend to have better hair in humid weather. When it got really cold and dry here for a while, my hair was horrendous.
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The hair reaching out (or not) for moisture is an interesting idea. And, I suppose, could make sense. Which, would also be consistent with everyone saying they've used less conditioner in such climates with better results. Silly me, thinking I'd need more in the desert. Tomorrow will be a low conditioner day. We'll see what happens.
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I had my hair totally changed after I moved from the Northeast to SoCal. I used to diffuse and get really great shiny ringlets. After moving out here, my hair is wavy at best. doesn't matter what products I use. Nowadays, I blow my hair out straight with a round brush and then don't wash it for a couple days. I would never get as good blowouts before I moved. I know my hair can be curly b/c I was recently in Portland and I diffused dry it was curly.
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SLC, UT is my hometown, and when I visit every few yrs, I have to use totally different products. I can use Angell & it actually has enough hold. Then when I come home to Juneau rainforest country, I need GF leave-in, which is optional in desert country, and a cream for weight & frizz protection, AND a hard hold gel. In UT, I actually did OK with Deva products, just ONe C rinsed out & the Angell. There was far less expansion, but my curls were less tight too. I have pix in my fotki of my hair in UT, & in AK. Looking at the pix, I could've used a curl booster like re:coil in UT. They dry weather does loosen curl.
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We were in Vegas over Thanksgiving and my hair was a disaster the whole time, too. Thinking it was so dry, I would need more conditioner - didn't work. Evidently, they also have hard water so that was probably contributing to it, too. I would have never thought to use less conditioner and a lighter hold gel. It was so dry that the skin on a couple of my fingers split open and stayed that way til were got back in VA -- as soon as I got home, it healed right up. So confusing!!
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Weird ive ben going to vegas for years and always was able to straighten my hair , but back then i didnt know about this site or CG or that i was a curly. fig i was just a barely wavy frizz.. i went two years ago and funny i could not straighten my hair for the life of me , it just wanted to go curly. so i worked with it and bought a sock diffuser over there and i was curly on my whole vaca which was nice cuz i got up scrunched, diffused and went.. even my mom was like dang thats odd..im actually going to vegas this july and wondering if my curls will hold up but even better since im CG now. i think it was the weather that made my hair best at being curly.
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Dealing with climate difference is totally confusing. My skin, hair, entire body does not like the dry desert climate. Nope, not at all.
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color-treated red/brown, medium-textured hair
PJ, currently using Suave citrus smoothie, B2B pom cond, GF C&S leave-in, AG re:coil, LOOB, HE SMU, Jessicurl HCC, CC, AIS
My hair was the exact opposite! OMG, funny how that is! I was in Vegas about 2 weeks ago for a week and my hair was amazing with very little frizz.
Originally Posted by CurlyQTPie
That's whats supposed to happen, also good if u wear your curly hair straight. The lack of any humidity eliminates frizz. But it sounds like the OP needs volume and some humidity to help her curls and hair get bigger. I used to need the exact opposite but now I might need the humidity to help volumize it.

I would think you'd need less conditioner in dryer climates since you're hair is less likely to frizz.
Yeah, I'm thinking humidity might be good for my hair. We shall see . . .

Funny, I straightened my hair for a decade, and no matter what the climate (dry, humid, whatever), I was constantly battling frizz.
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color-treated red/brown, medium-textured hair
PJ, currently using Suave citrus smoothie, B2B pom cond, GF C&S leave-in, AG re:coil, LOOB, HE SMU, Jessicurl HCC, CC, AIS
My hair loves Vegas. I am there a few times a year and I don't know if it is the combo of the water and the air but I have lovely curls.
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Mannn....My hair loves places like Vegas, Phoenix, etc, too. NO HUMIDITY! I just know I'm misplaced living in Michigan during the summers! But in Washingston state? I would have to cut my hair SUPER short!!!! I couldn't hack the rain/dampness! LOL!

I would be the conditioner is totally weighing you down out there (didn't read though ALL the posts)....
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