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Old 01-05-2014, 03:23 PM   #1
 
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I have had some breakage because I have been coloring my hair. I am not going to stop because I look better with lighter hair. The breakage is very minimal - thank goodness.

I recently did a harder , aphogee, protein treatment and my hair looked amazing afterwards. But if I use a series of products conditioner, styler etc that has protein in them my hair gets fuzzy and hard.

I am familiar with the protein moisture balance and I am familiar with the terms used to describe proteins such as hard, light etc...

But I am wondering is it deeper than that? Could the type and brand of protein affect the way that your hair responds? For example if someone thinks that they are protein sensitive could it be that the rice protein in their products is something that they need to stay away from whereas wheat protein could be something they could use more frequently?

I noticed that many products that contain protein use multiple types? Could that be an issue?

Just some thoughts.

I am wondering if there is a list of proteins and if anyone has studied/experimented regarding this?
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Protein-moisture balance is poorly named IMO, should be protein-emollience or protein-conditioning since hydrolysed protein is a humectant (water attracting ingredient).

Hydrolysed proteins can build up and can dehydrate the hair if overused as you have found. They can also both penetrate and coat the surface: these will likely give different effects/ benefits.

There are a number of articles worth reading on the Natural Haven blog and on the Sciencey Hairblog which should give you the additional information you seek.

I have noticed some people leap to blame protein for hair issues when
- there is no protein in the product
- they are not using hydrolysed protein
- they are overusing humectants generally without considering dew points/ humidity
- using other ingredients that allegedly 'act like a protein' but actually have little in common with it (eg coconut oil).
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:04 PM   #4
 
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Thanks Firefox. That's kind of like a part of where I am headed. I have found some preliminary research about different proteins and what they do, but I want to create something comprehensive. I will check out the info you suggested.
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I'm also curious about this! Great thread. I know some people say they can only use certain kinds of proteins, like silk, but I've never noticed that in my own hair. Hope to see more about this!
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The only protein I have come across (besides wheat - gluten free here) is rice amino acids. My hair loves keratin and all sorts of others, but silk doesn't seem to do as much for me.
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Type of protein is important. My hair likes all generally, but others can only use one type of protein. I think it's because the molecular weight of the proteins differs. So you should experiment with different proteins and see what your hair likes.
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Thanks mustangbunny. I would like to maybe work out a spreadsheet on this at some point.

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I'm also curious about this! Great thread. I know some people say they can only use certain kinds of proteins, like silk, but I've never noticed that in my own hair. Hope to see more about this!
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Thanks sixelamy.

Wavydaze, that is my plan in the near to mid future.
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Science-y Hair Blog: Search results for hydrolyzed proteins

This article is really interesting! Thought you might find it useful on your protein hunt.
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