Hair Journey Documentation !!!

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If you are permanently dying your hair it is very likely higher porosity and lower elasticity. It's tough to over condition our hair, it can easily get frizzy if humectants are overused and in higher humidity or if too little conditioner is used.

You can choose products by their ingredients after that it is trial and error. I find plenty of a leave in conditioner rich in fatty alcohols and/ or cationic surfactants (basic conditioning ingredients) and technique is more important than styling product for clumping and frizz control.

You don't need to stop dying, but never ever refresh the lengths only touch up the roots. Also protect your hair with coconut oil and/ or hydrolysed wheat and soy protein. Treat afterwards with more penetrating oils, hydrolysed proteins, ceramides, 18-MEA, panthenol. Cleansing method should be gentle: no castile soap, no baking soda nor anionic surfactants.

You don't just need more fats in your diet but also more mineral rich foods, avoid grains if you wish, but you must replace these with nuts, seeds, beans, lentils and plenty of them. It is extremely difficult to eat a balanced and truly varied very low carb wholefood diet: the only way is if you are open minded to foods others may find distasteful such as organ meats (liver, spleen) and molluscs (shellfish such as mussels and oysters).
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2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
If you are permanently dying your hair it is very likely higher porosity and lower elasticity. It's tough to over condition our hair, it can easily get frizzy if humectants are overused and in higher humidity or if too little conditioner is used.

You can choose products by their ingredients after that it is trial and error. I find plenty of a leave in conditioner rich in fatty alcohols and/ or cationic surfactants (basic conditioning ingredients) and technique is more important than styling product for clumping and frizz control.

You don't need to stop dying, but never ever refresh the lengths only touch up the roots. Also protect your hair with coconut oil and/ or hydrolysed wheat and soy protein. Treat afterwards with more penetrating oils, hydrolysed proteins, ceramides, 18-MEA, panthenol. Cleansing method should be gentle: no castile soap, no baking soda nor anionic surfactants.

You don't just need more fats in your diet but also more mineral rich foods, avoid grains if you wish, but you must replace these with nuts, seeds, beans, lentils and plenty of them. It is extremely difficult to eat a balanced and truly varied very low carb wholefood diet: the only way is if you are open minded to foods others may find distasteful such as organ meats (liver, spleen) and molluscs (shellfish such as mussels and oysters).
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
I actually love mussels but I can eat them only during summer
also I drink almond milk, whole grain bread, oatmeal, broccoli, eggs, turkey, chicken, legumes not so often but I could work that, non fat yogurt, non fat cottage cheese. Only oil is low on my diet as it causes me to eat less food. Also oranges, banana etc. My diet is not low carb targetted but rather low calorie one and honestly I woyld prefer having hair on my head instead of being bald and thinner. One thing I tend not to do is drink a lot of water. I simply forget or lose interest after a while.
I do nutrition consults as part of my work which is why I am being picky (hopefully helpful too). Low calorie should be done with the close supervision of a registered dietician or doctor.

Many fruits are loaded with sugars, its not all that low calorie for the nutrients it supplies. Eat a wide variety of low sugar fruits and non starchy vegetables in the full rainbow of bright and dark colours. This is for certain vitamins but useless for most minerals.

Oily fish is necessary for long chain omega-3s and bioavailable vitamin D. Red meats/ oily fish/ organ meats for haem iron and vitamin B12 - lean white meats like chicken breast are shockingly poor sources of both. Whole eggs are great.

Almond milk is processed low nutrient rubbish. Cottage cheese is very low in calcium for a cheese, you needs large servings for bioavailable calcium. A serving of hard cheese is only 25-30g, if you can get a half fat cheddar say that is ~5g fat but a third of your daily calcium and ~10g protein.

Check out the Self nutrition data, look at nutrients per 100g. If you cut out or heavily reduce food groups due to personal taste, ethics or diet you must increase or add other food groups. Fruit and veg is NOT healthier than other foods, its just a good water source.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
If you can drink cow's milk with no issues and you aren't vegan, then apart from in a few cases, there is no point using alternative milks like oat, rice, almond or soya (soy).

They aren't more healthy especially when most of them have fructose added to them to make them more palatable. They also lack a wide range of vitamins and minerals found in cow's milk and some have no added vitamins and minerals at all.

Oh and the water drinking is a myth. Obviously you need to drink fluid to survive but it doesn't have to be pints of water unless you like spending your time in the bathroom.
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Last edited by Blueblood; 02-23-2014 at 12:11 AM.
Thank you very much for your advice and I am gonna follow everything you suggested. Today is the third day of being cg and my hair is not greasy like in the past! My cowash is Syoss silicone free color and volume. Ingredients: Aqua, cetaryl alcohol, Quaternium-87, Propylene Glycol, Niacinamide, Panthenol, Prunus Armeniaca Kernel oil, Isopropyl Myristate, citric acid, stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, distearoylethyl Hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate, ceteareth-20, glyceryl stearate, parfum, sodium benzoate, hexyl salicylate, hexyl cinnamal, linalool, benzyl salicylate, Limonene.
Is it ok for cg?
2C/3A Botticelli/Corkicelli.Color Treated
M/C, Medium/High Por, Normal Elast. Medium Density
CO: Conditioner with Wheat Protein and Aloe
DET/RO/LI: GNC Avocado And Shea Butter Conditioner
GEL: Schwarzkopf Taft Maxx Power
DT: Gliss Untimate Volume+Coconut Oil

HG
Goal: WL when curly
CG since Feb 2014
Looks great!
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Yay!!!! I finally managed to find something good on my hair!!! I might change my deep conditioning one as I feel it didn't do anything. are aussie ones cg friendly?? I adore one but.... it has silicones in

Ingredients:
Aqua, Cetrimonium Chloride, Cetyl Alcohol, Glyceryl Stearate, Peg 12 Distearate, Glycol Stearate, Stearyl Alcohol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Phenoxyethanol, DI-C12-18 Alkyl Dimonium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, Parfum, Isopropylparaben, Butylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Cetrimonium Bromide, Propylene Glycol, Phosphoric Acid, Alcohol Denat., Acetamide MEA, Glycerin, Sodium Lauriminodipropionate, Sorbitol, Hydroxylated Lecithin, Carthamus Tinctorius Seed Oil, Helianthus Annuus Seed Oil, Simmondsia Chinensis Seed Oil, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Simethicone, Avena Sativa Kernel Flour, Yeast Extract CI 15985, Melissa Officinalis Leaf Extract, Humulus Lupulus Extract, Foeniculum Vulgare Seed Extract, Cyclopentasiloxane, Cyclotetrasiloxane, Cyclohexasiloxane, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Ethylparaben, Diazolidinyl Urea
Not CG friendly due to the silicones. Maybe its then you like, I don't see much else of note, its cosmetic nothing else.

It can be a shock seeing and feeling our hair without silicones after years coated with them. Mine still felt soft but nekkid it was super fluffy and dull due to damage. As I grew out the old hair I had a clear demarcation which was encouraging.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
To be honest I loved the smell too. It was like bubblegum!
I can relate to what you say about silicones but only in the past I used to hold on to them. Atm they do nothing to my hair besides making the dryness more obvious. Actually that deep conditioner might not work now. I do have more from aussie in my mind though hmm....

1)Aussie Miracle Moist Conditioner
Ingedients:Aqua, Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Cetyl Esters, Acetamide MEA, Sodium PCA, DMDM Hydantoin, Parfum, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Cetrimonium Chloride, Cetearyl Alcohol, Polysorbate 60, Linalool, Propylparaben, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch, Butylphenyl, Methylpropional, Aloe Barbadensis, Limonene, Trideceth-12, Propylene Glycol, Macadamia Ternifola, Anthemis Nobilis, Anigozanthos Flavidus, Taraxacum Officinale, Calendula Officinalis, Prunus Serotina, Equisetum Arvense, Sambucus Nigra, Allium, Sativum, Urtica Dioica, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Isobutylparaben, CI 19140, CI 17200

2)Aussie 3 Minute Miracle Frizz Remedy Deep Treatment
Ingredients:Aqua, Cetyl Alcohol, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-12 Distearate, Cetrimonium Chloride, Glycol Stearate, Stearyl Alcohol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Phenoxyethanol, Dicetyldimonium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, Parfum, Propylene Glycol, Alcohol, Isopropylparaben, Cetrimonium Bromide, Phosphoric Acid, Butylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Acetamide Mea, Glycerin, Sodium Lauriminodipropionate, Sorbitol, Hydroxylated Lecithin, Simmondsia Chinensis, Simethicone, Helianthus Annuus, Carthamus Tinctorius, Ethanolamine, Avena Sativa, CI 15985, Melissa Officinalis, Humulus Lupulus, Foenicullum Vulgare, Aloe Barbadensis, Methylparaben, Yeast Extract, Ethylparaben, Diazolidinyl Urea, Propylaparaben.

3)Aussie Colour Mate Conditioner
Ingredients:Aqua, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetyl Esters, Behentrimonium Chloride, Linoleamidopropyl PG-Dimonium Chloride Phosphate, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Parfum, DMDM Hydantoin, Methylparaben, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Eucalyptus (Eucalyptus Globulus) Extract, Citric Acid, Avocado (Persea Gratissima) Oil, Wild Peach (Prunus Persica) Extract, Propylene Glycol, Polysorbate 20, Phenoxyethanol, Butylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Ethylparaben, Propylparaben, Potassium Sorbate.

4)Aussie 3 Minute Miracle Frizz Remedy Deep Treatment (this has sorbitol in it wich makes me gravitate towards it)
Ingredients:Aqua, Cetyl Alcohol, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-12 Distearate, Cetrimonium Chloride, Glycol Stearate, Stearyl Alcohol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Phenoxyethanol, Dicetyldimonium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, Parfum, Propylene Glycol, Alcohol, Isopropylparaben, Cetrimonium Bromide, Phosphoric Acid, Butylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Acetamide Mea, Glycerin, Sodium Lauriminodipropionate, Sorbitol, Hydroxylated Lecithin, Simmondsia Chinensis, Simethicone, Helianthus Annuus, Carthamus Tinctorius, Ethanolamine, Avena Sativa, CI 15985, Melissa Officinalis, Humulus Lupulus, Foenicullum Vulgare, Aloe Barbadensis, Methylparaben, Yeast Extract, Ethylparaben, Diazolidinyl Urea, Propylaparaben.

5)Aussie Frizz Miracle Conditioner
Ingredients:
Aqua, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetyl Esters, Behentrimonium Chloride, Linoleamidopropyl PG-Dimonium Chloride Phosphate, Parfum, DMDM Hydantoin, Methylparaben, Polyquaternium-10, Propylene Glycol, Blue Gum Tree Leaves (Eucalyptus Dunii) Extract, Stringy Bark Gum (Eucalyptus Acmenioides) Extract, Citric Acid, CI 61570.

I do hope I am not bugging you all with the ingredients . I will order the Curly Girl; The handbook but it will take more than a week.
What is the use of the cold water as rince? The cold water makes my hair rough
2C/3A Botticelli/Corkicelli.Color Treated
M/C, Medium/High Por, Normal Elast. Medium Density
CO: Conditioner with Wheat Protein and Aloe
DET/RO/LI: GNC Avocado And Shea Butter Conditioner
GEL: Schwarzkopf Taft Maxx Power
DT: Gliss Untimate Volume+Coconut Oil

HG
Goal: WL when curly
CG since Feb 2014
What is the use of the cold water as rince? The cold water makes my hair rough
Originally Posted by KaZenner1990
The advice I've read is to use warm water not scalding or cold.

There have been different theories over the years on using different temperature water but none have them have scientific back up.
What is the use of the cold water as rince? The cold water makes my hair rough
Originally Posted by KaZenner1990
Some people like to use cold water to rinse as it's meant to help reduce frizz. I personally don't bother though, as I've found it doesn't make any difference. But it works for some people!
Allie

Curly type: 3A Botticelli curls. Medium porosity / density.
Pre-poo: Organic Virgin Coconut Oil
Low-poo: Shea Moisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl & Shine
Conditioner: Faith in Nature Raspberry and Cranberry
D/C: Shea Moisture Raw Shea Butter Restorative, mixed with honey & other goodies
Leave-in: My DNA
Styler: Umberto Giannini Scrunching Jelly / Ouidad Climate Control Heat & Humidity


UK curly. CG since October 2013.
Aiming for WL curls (eventually)
There is an interesting mini experiment on the Sciencey Hairblog on hair and water temperature.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Now I am puzzled. I had a trim and acutally cut a lot of hair. My hair seems to get more greasy now. Is it my idea???
Now I am puzzled. I had a trim and acutally cut a lot of hair. My hair seems to get more greasy now. Is it my idea???
Originally Posted by KaZenner1990
There is no puzzle if you chemically process your hair, which you includes dying and bleaching, then it's damaged.
Now I am puzzled. I had a trim and acutally cut a lot of hair. My hair seems to get more greasy now. Is it my idea???
Originally Posted by KaZenner1990
There is no puzzle if you chemically process your hair, which you includes dying and bleaching, then it's damaged.
Originally Posted by Blueblood
Yea but triming wouldn't help? I woke up today with the right side of my hair where my former fringe that I grow out now having a massive shiny curl. Possibly I might be on the adjusting phase still but....I did a haircut thinking it would help. they seem to curl less than before even though my hair are shorter. Although I didn't layer my hair as usual as I thought it might cause me breakage. So my hair becomes more greasy because is damaged? the greasy part is close to my roots and close to my face. I admit I might touch this part very often. I know that many things might be obvious but I am still learning.
Trimming just cuts of the ends.

If the hair is damaged all along it's length then trimming will do nothing.
Then what should I do? Mosturise until my new hair has grown out?

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2C/3A Botticelli/Corkicelli.Color Treated
M/C, Medium/High Por, Normal Elast. Medium Density
CO: Conditioner with Wheat Protein and Aloe
DET/RO/LI: GNC Avocado And Shea Butter Conditioner
GEL: Schwarzkopf Taft Maxx Power
DT: Gliss Untimate Volume+Coconut Oil

HG
Goal: WL when curly
CG since Feb 2014
Re-read the entire thread and follow the helpful advice already given.
That is the state of my hair after whole night ploping and a bit diffusing. I have excessive definition( I have never seen my hair like that) but there is some frizz too.
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2C/3A Botticelli/Corkicelli.Color Treated
M/C, Medium/High Por, Normal Elast. Medium Density
CO: Conditioner with Wheat Protein and Aloe
DET/RO/LI: GNC Avocado And Shea Butter Conditioner
GEL: Schwarzkopf Taft Maxx Power
DT: Gliss Untimate Volume+Coconut Oil

HG
Goal: WL when curly
CG since Feb 2014

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