I found something available on ground: Burt's Bees

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As some of you know, finding products on ground is somewhat challenging in the Netherlands. Just today I ran into Burt's Bees hair products. I had a quick look at them and they seemed CG and perhaps interesting for my particular hair wishes (my hair craves protein, needs something light so it doesn't get weighed, no silicones, polyquats or sulphates, but I do need a gentle surfactant).

Anyway, these are the products of their line that look interesting to me. I would love to hear if my guts are right and that these are CG.

Very Volumizing Pomegranate Shampoo
aqua (water, eau), sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, sodium cocoyl alaninate, glycerin, disodium cocoyl glutamate, oryza sativa (rice) extract, hydrolyzed jojoba proteinsodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, punica granatum seed oil, origanum vulgare leaf oil, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil, arginine, parfum (fragrance), sodium lauroyl lactylate, sodium cocoyl glutamate guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, sodium chloride, lactic acid, sodium polyaspartate, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, xanthan gum, ascorbic acid, citric acid, potassium sorbate.

If I'm correct, this shampoo contains protein, only two oils and no butters, so it is likely to be light enough for my hair.

Super Shiny Mango Shampoo
aqua (water, eau), sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, sodium cocoyl alaninate, glycerin, disodium cocoyl glutamate, parfum (fragrance), oryza sativa (rice) extractsodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, sodium cocoyl glutamate, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, arginine, sodium polyaspartate, mangifera indica (mango) seed oil, origanum vulgare leaf oil, ficus carica (fig) fruit/leaf extract thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil, sodium lauroyl lactylate, xanthan gum, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, sodium chloride, sodium benzoate, lactic acid, leuconostoc ferment filtrate citric acid, ascorbic acid, potassium sorbate.

Same as previous shampoo.

Very Volumizing Pomegranate Conditioner
aqua (water, eau), cetyl alcohol, persea gratissima (avocado) oil, brassica alcohol, cetearyl alcohol, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, arginine, lactic acid, punica granatum seed oil, parfum (fragrance)sodium polyaspartate, stearyldimoniumhydroxypropyl laurylglucosides chloride, glycerin, brassicyl isoleucinate esylate, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, behenyl behenate, cetrimonium bromide sodium chloride, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, ascorbic acid, citric acid, potassium sorbate.

This has a fatty alcohol and protein, but I am a bit worried about the two oils this high up the list.

Super Shiny Mango Conditioner
aqua (water, eau), cetyl alcohol, persea gratissima (avocado) oil, brassica alcohol, parfum (fragrance), cetearyl alcohol, mangifera indica (mango) seed oil, ficus carica (fig) fruit/leaf extract, argininehydrolyzed jojoba protein, brassicyl isoleucinate esylate, sodium polyaspartate, stearyldimoniumhydroxypropyl laurylglucosides chloride, glycerin, cetrimonium bromide guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, behenyl behenate, lactic acid, sodium chloride, sodium benzoate, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, citric acid, ascorbic acid, potassium sorbate.

I'm currently looking for a new rinse-out and a new low poo and it would be great if I could just get them in store instead of always having to order them online
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Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

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Those lists look cg to me. Also I know I saw these on a list of cg products somewhere. I hope they work well for you.
Lauraimes likes this.
2c/3a, dense, fairly coarse, normal porosity and elasticity, bsl curly, WL wet
Low poo: Giovanni 50 50
Co-wash: down under naturals, tresume naturals
RO: AOHR
LI: Giovanni Direct, Desert Essence curl cream
Stylers: kccc, HE smu, brhg
Oils: coconut, argan or evoo
Looks decent if you hair likes hydrolysed protein. The guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride is a polyquat I think, do check Sciencey Hairblog. Not necessarily the end of the world just keep your eye open for build up as with protein.
Lauraimes likes this.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
As far as I know, my hair likes hydrolysed protein so I'm not worried about that.

You are right about guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride. I checked it on the Science-y Hair Blog and it is listed as a polyquat with higher build-up potential. It's relatively low on the lists though, and I don't think I've ever used a product with this particular polyquat, so who knows.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
I googled guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride and ended up at Tightly Curly. This is what she wrote about it:

Guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride
Caution
Conditioning ingredient. Good in products that will be rinsed off. Water soluble quaternary ammonium compound, made from guar gum. — This is an ingredient that was in a conditioner that flaked up when I used enough product to keep my curls clumped. If you are going to rinse the product out of your hair, this ingredient is fine. If you are planning on leaving this on your hair, this may gum up. —T
See also: Quaternary Ammonium Compound
Source(s): Begoun

You can find her page here and click the sources.

This sounds promising, considering that I don't use a leave-in and will rinse out the conditioner (and needless to say, the shampoo as well). I will do some more research though.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
I've also re-read Tonya McKay's article, which mentions that specific polyquat. For those interested: Low-Shampoo or Co-Wash Routines and Polyquats
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
IME the Burt's Bees poos are at least as rough on hair as sulfate shampoos are. They throw a *lot* of non-sulfate detergents in, apparently to make up for the lack of sulfate cleansers.
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Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
Hmm, that's definitely something to consider, Morgan_Adcock. Especially since there is a polyquat in it as well, that is said to have higher potential to build-up.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
IME the Burt's Bees poos are at least as rough on hair as sulfate shampoos are. They throw a *lot* of non-sulfate detergents in, apparently to make up for the lack of sulfate cleansers.
Originally Posted by Morgan_Adcock
If I recall correctly, the majority of the complaints about Burt's Bees shampoos being rough on hair was before they revamped their entire line. The list for Very Volumizing Pomegranate Shampoo Laura posted has only 3.

Very Volumizing Pomegranate Shampoo
aqua (water, eau), sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, sodium cocoyl alaninate, glycerin, disodium cocoyl glutamate, oryza sativa (rice) extract, hydrolyzed jojoba proteinsodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, punica granatum seed oil, origanum vulgare leaf oil, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil, arginine, parfum (fragrance), sodium lauroyl lactylate, sodium cocoyl glutamate guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, sodium chloride, lactic acid, sodium polyaspartate, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, xanthan gum, ascorbic acid, citric acid, potassium sorbate.

Some pages with info:
Poly Suga®Betaine C / Sodium Bis-Hydroxyethylglycinate Coco-Glucosides Crosspolymer (sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer)

sodium cocoyl glutamate - Cosmetic Ingredient Dictionary: Cosmetics Cop Expert Advice

Sodium Cocoyl Alaninate - Buy Sodium Cocoyl Alaninate,Alanine,Cocoyl Alaninate Product on Alibaba.com

DISODIUM COCOYL GLUTAMATE || Skin Deep® Cosmetics Database | Environmental Working Group

Chemical of the Day - Q&A - Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate &*MSM - "There has only been one published study done on the ingredient. They found that a blend of Sodium Laureth Sulfate and Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate was more gentle on skin than a blend of Sodium Laureth Sulfate and Coco Betaine."

This, on the other hand, is their old Super Shiny Grapefruit & Sugar Beet Shampoo's ingredients (containing 6 "gentle" surfactants): water, decyl glucoside, lauryl glucoside, coco-glucoside, glyceryl oleate, glycine soja (soybean) protein, coco-betaine, honey, sucrose laurate, betaine, glycerin, hydroxypropyltrimonium honey, glucose, citrus grandis (grapefruit) seed extract, citrus aurantium dulcis (orange) peel oil, citrus medica limonum (lemon) peel oil, citrus tangerina (tangerine) peel oil, citrus aurantifolia (lime) oil, zingiber officinale (ginger) root extract, citrus reticulata (tangerine/petitgrain) leaf oil, xanthan gum, glucose oxidase, lactoperoxidase

The sucrose laurate is also a foam booster and emulsifier. Anyway, with only 3 surfactants in the newer shampoo formulas, they might be worth trying.
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CG since 11/2011
2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's (link) as needed
I used to love Burt's bees before they revamped the line... I used to use the raspberry moisturizing one but I used the pomegranate one..... I wonder if they re formulated the pomegranate one.

Anyway I used to like the rasp and Pom shampoo and condish but wasn't too crazy about their new formulations, the mango one anyway. The raspberry one was replaced by the baobab one which smells horrible to me.
fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: no guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, gelatin gel

Recent findings: my hair likes Cure Care diluted with water as a cowash; does NOT like guar h.c.!

iherb discount code: CFN646
Sorry for errors I'm on my phone
fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: no guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, gelatin gel

Recent findings: my hair likes Cure Care diluted with water as a cowash; does NOT like guar h.c.!

iherb discount code: CFN646
I used to love Burt's bees before they revamped the line... I used to use the raspberry moisturizing one but I used the pomegranate one..... I wonder if they re formulated the pomegranate one.

Anyway I used to like the rasp and Pom shampoo and condish but wasn't too crazy about their new formulations, the mango one anyway. The raspberry one was replaced by the baobab one which smells horrible to me.
Originally Posted by wavydaze
Yeah, the pomegranate one was completely reformulated too.

Old (Pomegranate & Soy): water, decyl glucoside, lauryl glucoside, coco-betaine, coco-glucoside, glyceryl oleate, honey, glycine soja (soybean) protein, glycerin, sucrose laurate, betaine, glucose, fragrance, punica granatum (pomegranate) extract, moringa pterygosperma seed extract, soy amino acids, xanthan gum, citric acid, glucose oxidase, lactoperoxidase

New (Pomegranate): aqua (water, eau), sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, sodium cocoyl alaninate, glycerin, disodium cocoyl glutamate, oryza sativa (rice) extract, hydrolyzed jojoba protein, sodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, punica granatum seed oil, origanum vulgare leaf oil, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil, arginine, parfum (fragrance), sodium lauroyl lactylate, sodium cocoyl glutamate guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, sodium chloride, lactic acid, sodium polyaspartate, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, xanthan gum, ascorbic acid, citric acid, potassium sorbate
CG since 11/2011
2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's (link) as needed
Great, after reading this, it makes me want to try the conditioner so bad!!!! haha I must contain myself. Thanks for this post though, I like the ingredients break down.
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
I always eye the Burt's Bees while I'm at the store. If you end up trying it, let us know how you like it!
2c-3a - coarse - normal-high porosity - high density - growing out to donate

NP/LP: KMF Whenever Conditioner/ YTCucs
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed DC / CJ Argan & Olive Oil, KCKT, YTBbs
DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
OIL/STYLER: SM Elixir / KCCC
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo

If I recall correctly, the majority of the complaints about Burt's Bees shampoos being rough on hair was before they revamped their entire line. The list for Very Volumizing Pomegranate Shampoo Laura posted has only 3.

Very Volumizing Pomegranate Shampoo
aqua (water, eau), sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer, sodium cocoyl alaninate, glycerin, disodium cocoyl glutamate, oryza sativa (rice) extract, hydrolyzed jojoba proteinsodium cocoyl hydrolyzed soy protein, punica granatum seed oil, origanum vulgare leaf oil, thymus vulgaris (thyme) oil, arginine, parfum (fragrance), sodium lauroyl lactylate, sodium cocoyl glutamate guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, lauryl lactyl lactate, sodium chloride, lactic acid, sodium polyaspartate, leuconostoc ferment filtrate, xanthan gum, ascorbic acid, citric acid, potassium sorbate.

Some pages with info:
Poly Suga®Betaine C / Sodium Bis-Hydroxyethylglycinate Coco-Glucosides Crosspolymer (sodium bis-hydroxyethylglycinate coco-glucosides crosspolymer)

sodium cocoyl glutamate - Cosmetic Ingredient Dictionary: Cosmetics Cop Expert Advice

Sodium Cocoyl Alaninate - Buy Sodium Cocoyl Alaninate,Alanine,Cocoyl Alaninate Product on Alibaba.com

DISODIUM COCOYL GLUTAMATE || Skin Deep® Cosmetics Database | Environmental Working Group

Chemical of the Day - Q&A - Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate &*MSM - "There has only been one published study done on the ingredient. They found that a blend of Sodium Laureth Sulfate and Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate was more gentle on skin than a blend of Sodium Laureth Sulfate and Coco Betaine."

This, on the other hand, is their old Super Shiny Grapefruit & Sugar Beet Shampoo's ingredients (containing 6 "gentle" surfactants): water, decyl glucoside, lauryl glucoside, coco-glucoside, glyceryl oleate, glycine soja (soybean) protein, coco-betaine, honey, sucrose laurate, betaine, glycerin, hydroxypropyltrimonium honey, glucose, citrus grandis (grapefruit) seed extract, citrus aurantium dulcis (orange) peel oil, citrus medica limonum (lemon) peel oil, citrus tangerina (tangerine) peel oil, citrus aurantifolia (lime) oil, zingiber officinale (ginger) root extract, citrus reticulata (tangerine/petitgrain) leaf oil, xanthan gum, glucose oxidase, lactoperoxidase

The sucrose laurate is also a foam booster and emulsifier. Anyway, with only 3 surfactants in the newer shampoo formulas, they might be worth trying.
Originally Posted by Geek_Chic
Geek_Chic, thank you so much for replying this elaborately. I read all the sources you listed and the only one that worries me is Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate, so I'm still undecided. I'm wondering what other curlies would do: get it or leave it?
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
The product junkie in me says get it, but maybe re-read some more of the articles and get a good understanding of how they might react with your hair.
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
Samanthacurlz, I always find it incredibly difficult to judge that based on ingredients. I mean, I know my hair does not like SLS, any cone (water-soluable or not) and polyquats, but when I encounter surfactants that are not straight sulphates or cocobetaine, then I cannot predict it. I think my hair loves cocobetaine because it did extremely well with CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, but I cannot get my hands on that for the time being. Also, my hair loved Weleda Wheat Shampoo but it has alcohol in it and while my hair actually looked better than with the shampoo that I currently have (which has no alcohol), I don't dare to get it again simply because I'm scared of what it might do. This is the alcohol vs. non-alcohol comparison:



On the one hand I'm tempted to just get the Burt's Bees Volumizing one and see what it does, but in the Netherlands, you don't have any return policies. I like that there is protein in it and it just looks good in general. It's just the third surfactant (disodium cocoyl glutamate) and the polyquat, although low on the list, that make me doubt.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
I've tried many many low-poos.

This was what I've learned. The CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo was by far the mildest low-poo I've ever tried. It really beats the drugstore ones. No drugstore low-poo comes close. I wonder about the Jessicurl low-poo as well. I have a feeling that the higher end, curly low-poos are much better than the drugstore ones.


As far as other lowpoos:

The SheaMoisture poos are gentle as well, but not fit for low-porosity IMO. I preferred the Coconut-Hibiscus poo over the Moisture Retention poo, which built up on me in one use.

I've liked the Giovanni low-poos a lot, but not as much as CJ Gentle Cleansing in soft water. I've found in hard water, I liked them much more than the CJ low-poo. So water hardness makes a difference and I need something stronger in hard water. I must say that I don't feel a huge difference between the ones that come in the white bottles: Tea Tree Triple Treat, 50:50 and Smooth as Silk. I'd normally go for the latter two between those. However, I do like the Brazilian Keratin and Argan Oil one. I think it's a bit milder than the white bottle ones. If I were living in the Netherlands with limited access, this is the one I would pick:

Giovanni, 2chic, Ultra-Sleek Shampoo, Brazilian Keratin & Argan Oil, 8.5 fl oz (250 ml) - iHerb.com

These are the ingredients:
Aqua (purified water), sodium cocoamphoacetate, decyl glucoside, sodium lauroyl sarcosinate, cocamidopropyl betaine, simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, panthenol (pro-vitamin B-5), beta carotene, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, *argania spinosa (argan) kernel oil, hydrolyzed paullinia cupana (Brazilian cocoa) keratin extract [phyto-keratin], *aloe barbadensis (aloe vera) leaf juice, *aspalathus linearis (rooibos tea) extract, *cocos nucifera (coconut) oil, *macadamia ternifolia (macadamia) seed extract, *butyrospermum parkii (shea butter) extract, sodium benzoate, citric acid, potassium sorbate, polysorbate 20, glycol distearate, sodium PCA, phenoxyethanol, natural fragrance

The bonus is it has some keratin. It's also much much cheaper than CJ's.
Alternately I'd use 50:50 for something more clarifying.


Other honorable mentions are YesToCucumbers shampoo which is fairly mild but something bugs me about it. I also don't really like the smell.

Original Sprout shampoo https://www.originalsprout.com/natural-shampoo

The BROO IPA one was definitely interesting. Not harsh but I think it left a bit of buildup so not fit for low-porosity hair.


Hope this helps.
Lauraimes likes this.
fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: no guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, gelatin gel

Recent findings: my hair likes Cure Care diluted with water as a cowash; does NOT like guar h.c.!

iherb discount code: CFN646
One more thing about the Burt's Bees. So back in the day I used to always buy matching shampoo and conditioner (how silly ha). The old Raspberry and Brazil Nut shampoo and condish worked nicely on my hair, but I think it was the conditioner that was so agreeable. Looking back, I think the shampoo was a bit drying, though not disastrous to my hair. I've certainly found better low-poos since then.

I think these were the ingredients to the old BB Raspberry and Brazil Nut conditioner:

water, centrimonium bromide, cetearyl alcohol, sucrose laurate, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, triticum vulgare (wheat) protein, betaine, glycerin, honey, sclerocarya birrea (marula) seed oil, glucose, bertholletia excelsa (brazil nut) oil, rubus idaeus (raspberry) fruit extract, citrus aurantium bergamia (bergamot) fruit oil, citrus aurantium dulcis (orange) peel oil, eucalyptus globulus (eucalyptus) leaf oil, foeniculum vulgare (fennel) oil, fragaria vesca (strawberry) fruit extract, citrus reticulata (tangerine/petitgrain) leaf oil, litsea cubeba fruit oil, vanillin, artemisia pallens (davana) oil, polysorbate 60, fragrance, glucose oxidase, lactoperoxidase

Judging by the ingredients, I guess I could see why my hair liked it: cationic surfactant, fatty alcohol, emollient, hydrolized protein, hydrolized protein.... so those are things that are good for my hair. I remember I tried mixing honey into my condish once and my hair loved it... wondering if the honey in this was playing a role. I guess I just sorta found a good conditioner for my hair kind of blindly... I didn't know anything about ingredients back then. Too bad they changed the formula.
Lauraimes likes this.
fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: no guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, gelatin gel

Recent findings: my hair likes Cure Care diluted with water as a cowash; does NOT like guar h.c.!

iherb discount code: CFN646
I tried the pomegranate shampoo and conditioner once many years ago and remember not liking them at all. The shampoo was VERY drying and the conditioner did not condition at all, in the least. I'd imagine if they changed their formula it's because of all the bad reviews. Which is good, but never brought myself to try it again. Love Burt's Bees for my daughter though. And their lemon butter cuticle cream and their tinted lip balms are out of this freakin' world!
2C/3A, high porosity, low density, fine-medium

Low Poo: Jessicurl Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Mop Top Gentle Shampoo
Clarify: Suave Naturals Daily Clarifying, KCCC
RO/CoWash: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut
LI: KCKT
Stylers: AG re:coil, AG Beach Bomb, Mop Top Light Hold Anti-Frizz Gel, LA Looks Xtreme Sport
PT: Curl Junkie Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatin treatment (awesome!)

Hair LOVES proteins!

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