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I think one of my main frustrations is that I still don't seem to have figured out what really works for me in the sense that I cannot get consistent results. I don't need supercurls - I just want my natural curls to look more defined and healthy. I also don't like that my ponytail doesn't look nice and voluminous any more like it used to unless I follow my routine and then put it in a ponytail (which means that I have to wait for about eight hours before I get to that point).

I'm just so done with spending money on products that I've selected so carefully, only to find that they don't work. I like knowing what results I can expect, and I just can't rely on that right now. I'm hoping that once I get a new tub of KCCC I can truly experiment with my most recent discovery, which is that my hair likes KCCC best on damp instead of wet hair. Foxy Curls also worked best on damp hair, so maybe that's key for me.

I think it's good to get my frustrations out so I really appreciate that you are taking the time to listen and respond to me
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
Ugh, I have had similar frustrations. It is irritating not having a good basic routine that you can always go back to. Hopefully once you can get your hands back on the KCCC that will assist you. I agree with sixelamy as well with maybe getting a hair analysis, which I know you said you will soon. I notice you mention that KCCC is better on damp hair, so like you mentioned, maybe that is what your hair needs to get the better results you crave.

And of course, that is what we are here for on this website. I want other wavies/curlies to know that whenever they have an issue or dilemma, that reporting here should help. Sometimes it can be discouraging to report here bc some people hate similar threads being posted, or some people can be belittling, but don't ever let anything discourage you from posting here. We are all here to help each other no matter what.
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
I only make threads when I really have a specific problem of question. Right now I was or am just frustrated, so I don't feel that making a thread will necessarily help with that, but I have to admit that discussing it on this thread is a major relief.

It's Thursday morning here and I didn't have the guts to use Foxy Curls. Instead, I simply used one of my old techniques: wetting my hair with my spray bottle, then scrunching in the product (in this case, the last bit of my FSG). I have not combed my hair with a wide tooth comb as I usually would do. For this reason, it appears to be a bit frizzy, but I'm curious to see what happens when it is completely dry. I will not throw out Foxy Curls - I just can't, that product has done good things for my hair back when I used it - but I think I'm just not ready yet to go back to it.

Tonight I will cook a new batch of FSG. One of the things I disliked was the crunch the honey I used for hold gave me, but with CJ AO as a LI, that did not seem to be a problem. I think I need to experiment more with the things that I have here.

Also, I'm going to start a new thread that focuses on what we do like about our hair, because most threads are about problems and dislikes, and I notice that those are the things that I pay attention to instead of the things that I like about my hair. I'll do that later today - first I have to do some writing and finish that questionnaire for my research.
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
Thats a great idea and great perspective! I never made my own batch of FSG so I don't think I would be much help on that. But yes, feel free to keep asking questions or whatnot on this thread. I think working with what you have can be beneficial, but also frustrating.
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High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
Well, in an attempt to branch out and use up some of my products, I showered last night and used the SM leave in as well as the Smoothie. Then I tried plopping all night in a t-shirt because I was tired and didn't want to diffuse my hair. Long story short, plopping all night gives me zero volume (which I kind of expected) and I used waaay too much product. When I would use the SM products before, I wasn't very liberal with how much I used because it was a heavier product than I was used to. Because I didn't use a lot, they never did anything for my hair and I just figured it was something I could never really use in my regular routine. Then I watched a Youtube video where the girl used a TON of the Smoothie and the light bulb went off in my head. The reason these products weren't working is because I wasn't using enough! DUH!!

So I used considerably more and ended up with too much. My hair looks slightly wet/greasy and very producty, but not so much that I hate it. I'm going to play around with these products. I'm determined to figure out something that works for me using this SM line because so many people love it and I really think it could work. I wish I had figured this out during the crazy low dew points as I feel this would have helped my hair immensely this winter. Maybe I wouldn't have had all the breakage, but oh well. You live and learn, right? That's what this is all about.

Besides having the producty feeling in my hair, I also have quite a bit of halo frizz, but I'm 99% sure this is from the plopping over night and my efforts of getting root volume today. It (plopping overnight) definitely won't be something I do on a regular basis, but at least I know that I can live with the results.

I do have a question for you all: I have always diffused my hair on a warm setting and the lowest speed. I love the idea of not having to use any heat on my hair and just letting it air dry, but it takes my hair at least 6-7 hours to fully dry because I have so much of it. I just can't handle having wet hair for 1/4 of the day. What is the difference in damage of diffusing vs. air drying? I would imagine air drying isn't causing any kind of damage, but how much is diffusing causing? Do you think it is enough to worry about?
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3a-3b, medium texture, medium porosity, color treated. 5 years CG

CO-wash: Suave Naturals, Tresemme Naturals
Rinse Out:GVP Conditioning Balm
Leave in: KCKT
Styler: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC, SM Coconut Hibiscus Gel Souffle
Well, in an attempt to branch out and use up some of my products, I showered last night and used the SM leave in as well as the Smoothie. Then I tried plopping all night in a t-shirt because I was tired and didn't want to diffuse my hair. Long story short, plopping all night gives me zero volume (which I kind of expected) and I used waaay too much product. When I would use the SM products before, I wasn't very liberal with how much I used because it was a heavier product than I was used to. Because I didn't use a lot, they never did anything for my hair and I just figured it was something I could never really use in my regular routine. Then I watched a Youtube video where the girl used a TON of the Smoothie and the light bulb went off in my head. The reason these products weren't working is because I wasn't using enough! DUH!!

So I used considerably more and ended up with too much. My hair looks slightly wet/greasy and very producty, but not so much that I hate it. I'm going to play around with these products. I'm determined to figure out something that works for me using this SM line because so many people love it and I really think it could work. I wish I had figured this out during the crazy low dew points as I feel this would have helped my hair immensely this winter. Maybe I wouldn't have had all the breakage, but oh well. You live and learn, right? That's what this is all about.

Besides having the producty feeling in my hair, I also have quite a bit of halo frizz, but I'm 99% sure this is from the plopping over night and my efforts of getting root volume today. It (plopping overnight) definitely won't be something I do on a regular basis, but at least I know that I can live with the results.

I do have a question for you all: I have always diffused my hair on a warm setting and the lowest speed. I love the idea of not having to use any heat on my hair and just letting it air dry, but it takes my hair at least 6-7 hours to fully dry because I have so much of it. I just can't handle having wet hair for 1/4 of the day. What is the difference in damage of diffusing vs. air drying? I would imagine air drying isn't causing any kind of damage, but how much is diffusing causing? Do you think it is enough to worry about?
Originally Posted by rizos
In regards to your question, there have been studies that some other posters have written about stating that letting hair air dry for too long isn't exactly the best either. So diffusing to speed up the air drying process should not have detrimental effects. Also, you use the lowest speed and you are not directly adding heat to make the cuticle lie flat (like straightening with a flat iron or even blow drying with a brush) so IMO it's not as damaging as some let on. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it.

Yes, what are your dews? Because some of the SM products have anti-humectants before the humectants, but some are straight up humectant (vegetable glycerin is what I have seen in some of the SM products). By SM leave in, do you mean the styling milk? I am going to re-look at the ingredients and see if I can help further.
High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
Curls
Lauraimes when I first went cg I was on info overload as my bff's called me. What I've learned being natural is to keep it simple. My stash includes: a clarifying shampoo (I use once a month), cowash, deep condition (I use twice a month) leave in, & gel. I have things that my grandmother uses that I don't. I personally don't use silicones because they make water bead up on my hair if I need to restyle. Without them, my hair absorbs moisture.
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Thanks Samantha :-)

Curlicious, I think I'm keeping it fairly simple. I prefer to have a clarifying shampoo for when I need it. I use a low poo and conditioner on a weekly basis, a detangled and one gel or jelly daily basis. I make IAGirl's gelatine treatment when needed. Using more takes up too much time and money, and my hair hates it because it is weighed down so easily. It's just that I find it difficult to select the right products for my simple routine. I do think that you have sound reasons for not using silicones. I still have not tried Foxy Curls again and right now I'm thinking I'm not going to do that any time soon.

I'm going to make that thread I was talking about tomorrow. Today was a crazy day and I'm off to bed now (it's almost midnight here).

Everyone, thanks for all your support! It's much appreciated :-)
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number

Last edited by Lauraimes; 03-14-2014 at 02:52 AM. Reason: Added something I forgot to mention.
Here's that new thread: What do you like about your hair today?

And here's my updated list for the No Waste Challenge.

Sulphate poo
Neutral Shampoo

Low poo
De Tuinen Mexican Cactus

Conditioner
Aubrey Organics GPB (threw it out)
Curl Junkie Beauticurls Argan & Olive Oil
Jane Carter Solution Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner

Detangler/LI
Kinky-Curly Knot Today

Stylers
Body Shop Cottonseed Curl Booster
Curl Junkie Curl Queen
Jane Carter Solution Wrap & Roll
Kinky-Curly Original Curling Custard (okay this is actually empty)
Tigi Bed Head Foxy Curls Contour Creme
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
Ok, so I finally tried my LA Looks for the first time today. I definitely get the hype. I have some serious curls, volume and shine. The thing about it is it would not scrunch out for anything. I was scrunching, and scrunching and scrunching and scrunching...I had to grab pieces and rub them between my fingers and it was still crunchy. I'm thinking, what gives? Everyone always says it's easy to scrunch out. Then I looked at my butter and realized I didn't buy LA Looks Sport I bought Extreme Sport, with a hold it 10+. I was so excited about getting the last bottle I don't notice and didn't know what difference it would make. It's probably more hold than I would like and need but I really like it. It gives me freer curls than I thought it would. It's good stuff. So thumbs up to my bottle of LA Looks Extreme Sport Gel!
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2C/3A, high porosity, low density, fine-medium

Low Poo: Jessicurl Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Mop Top Gentle Shampoo
Clarify: Suave Naturals Daily Clarifying, KCCC
RO/CoWash: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut
LI: KCKT
Stylers: AG re:coil, AG Beach Bomb, Mop Top Light Hold Anti-Frizz Gel, LA Looks Xtreme Sport
PT: Curl Junkie Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatin treatment (awesome!)

Hair LOVES proteins!
Ok, so I finally tried my LA Looks for the first time today. I definitely get the hype. I have some serious curls, volume and shine. The thing about it is it would not scrunch out for anything. I was scrunching, and scrunching and scrunching and scrunching...I had to grab pieces and rub them between my fingers and it was still crunchy. I'm thinking, what gives? Everyone always says it's easy to scrunch out. Then I looked at my butter and realized I didn't buy LA Looks Sport I bought Extreme Sport, with a hold it 10+. I was so excited about getting the last bottle I don't notice and didn't know what difference it would make. It's probably more hold than I would like and need but I really like it. It gives me freer curls than I thought it would. It's good stuff. So thumbs up to my bottle of LA Looks Extreme Sport Gel!
Originally Posted by MeeBee
I rarely use a LI but when I found my hair a bit dry last week I used a really moisturising leave-in and lo and behold, the honey I put in my FSG didn't make my hair crunchy! Maybe you can try something like that as well.
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F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
Ok, so I finally tried my LA Looks for the first time today. I definitely get the hype. I have some serious curls, volume and shine. The thing about it is it would not scrunch out for anything. I was scrunching, and scrunching and scrunching and scrunching...I had to grab pieces and rub them between my fingers and it was still crunchy. I'm thinking, what gives? Everyone always says it's easy to scrunch out. Then I looked at my butter and realized I didn't buy LA Looks Sport I bought Extreme Sport, with a hold it 10+. I was so excited about getting the last bottle I don't notice and didn't know what difference it would make. It's probably more hold than I would like and need but I really like it. It gives me freer curls than I thought it would. It's good stuff. So thumbs up to my bottle of LA Looks Extreme Sport Gel!
Originally Posted by MeeBee
I rarely use a LI but when I found my hair a bit dry last week I used a really moisturising leave-in and lo and behold, the honey I put in my FSG didn't make my hair crunchy! Maybe you can try something like that as well.
Originally Posted by Lauraimes
You're right and I will definitely try that! I didn't use one because I'm having moisture issues right now. I need it though. I will see if it helps
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2C/3A, high porosity, low density, fine-medium

Low Poo: Jessicurl Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Mop Top Gentle Shampoo
Clarify: Suave Naturals Daily Clarifying, KCCC
RO/CoWash: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut
LI: KCKT
Stylers: AG re:coil, AG Beach Bomb, Mop Top Light Hold Anti-Frizz Gel, LA Looks Xtreme Sport
PT: Curl Junkie Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatin treatment (awesome!)

Hair LOVES proteins!
I am a failure. I purchased the CJ conditioner that I really wanted since I have some extra $$. I think I am complete now. Gotta add it to my list!

I've been using my Sevi shampoo as a face wash. I'm using extra of my SM baby wash as hand soap... just want rid of it so I use way more than enough. I used my Nature's Gate Henna shampoo as a body wash last night.

I have some cleaning to do this weekend, so figure I'll use my hard water shampoo to clean the tub, shower curtain, and sinks.
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2c-3a - coarse - normal-high porosity - high density - growing out to donate

NP/LP: KMF Whenever Conditioner/ YTCucs
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed DC / CJ Argan & Olive Oil, KCKT, YTBbs
DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
OIL/STYLER: SM Elixir / KCCC
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo

Last edited by sixelamy; 03-14-2014 at 11:49 AM.
You're not a failure, sixelamy. Like I told Samanthascurlz, you have to start somewhere. Little baby steps. You can't expect to not buy anything at all any more from day one.

If it helps you, I just bought a new tub of KCCC because it's finally in stock again and I didn't want to miss out on it (again).
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F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number

Last edited by Lauraimes; 03-14-2014 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Typo
Very true. At least I know that I love this conditioner, so hopefully it won't be something that will just sit on my shelf like 95% of my current products.
2c-3a - coarse - normal-high porosity - high density - growing out to donate

NP/LP: KMF Whenever Conditioner/ YTCucs
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed DC / CJ Argan & Olive Oil, KCKT, YTBbs
DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
OIL/STYLER: SM Elixir / KCCC
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
Very true. At least I know that I love this conditioner, so hopefully it won't be something that will just sit on my shelf like 95% of my current products.
Originally Posted by sixelamy
Exactly! Isn't the whole idea behind the No Waste Challenge that you end up with a selection of products that you really like and that work for you?

Which conditioner is it? I'm dying to get Repair Me! but it's not available in Europe and getting it on Amazon or something is way too expensive, especially considering that it already is a relatively pricey product.
F - LP - HD - NE
Fine, low porosity, high density, normal elasticity
Hairtype 2c

Low poo: Weleda Oat Replenishing Shampoo
Protein: IAGirl's gelatine treatment
Detangler & LI: KCKT
Styling: KCCC

Beauty Is Not a Number
You make me feel better about it, thank you! You are an enabler. lol

I loved Repair Me, but it made me a bit itchy, so I re-homed it. I bought the Argan & Olive Oil. I was in love with the sample I bought of it, I've been fighting off the urge to buy it for quite some time now.
2c-3a - coarse - normal-high porosity - high density - growing out to donate

NP/LP: KMF Whenever Conditioner/ YTCucs
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed DC / CJ Argan & Olive Oil, KCKT, YTBbs
DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
OIL/STYLER: SM Elixir / KCCC
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
Well, in an attempt to branch out and use up some of my products, I showered last night and used the SM leave in as well as the Smoothie. Then I tried plopping all night in a t-shirt because I was tired and didn't want to diffuse my hair. Long story short, plopping all night gives me zero volume (which I kind of expected) and I used waaay too much product. When I would use the SM products before, I wasn't very liberal with how much I used because it was a heavier product than I was used to. Because I didn't use a lot, they never did anything for my hair and I just figured it was something I could never really use in my regular routine. Then I watched a Youtube video where the girl used a TON of the Smoothie and the light bulb went off in my head. The reason these products weren't working is because I wasn't using enough! DUH!!

So I used considerably more and ended up with too much. My hair looks slightly wet/greasy and very producty, but not so much that I hate it. I'm going to play around with these products. I'm determined to figure out something that works for me using this SM line because so many people love it and I really think it could work. I wish I had figured this out during the crazy low dew points as I feel this would have helped my hair immensely this winter. Maybe I wouldn't have had all the breakage, but oh well. You live and learn, right? That's what this is all about.

Besides having the producty feeling in my hair, I also have quite a bit of halo frizz, but I'm 99% sure this is from the plopping over night and my efforts of getting root volume today. It (plopping overnight) definitely won't be something I do on a regular basis, but at least I know that I can live with the results.

I do have a question for you all: I have always diffused my hair on a warm setting and the lowest speed. I love the idea of not having to use any heat on my hair and just letting it air dry, but it takes my hair at least 6-7 hours to fully dry because I have so much of it. I just can't handle having wet hair for 1/4 of the day. What is the difference in damage of diffusing vs. air drying? I would imagine air drying isn't causing any kind of damage, but how much is diffusing causing? Do you think it is enough to worry about?
Originally Posted by rizos
In regards to your question, there have been studies that some other posters have written about stating that letting hair air dry for too long isn't exactly the best either. So diffusing to speed up the air drying process should not have detrimental effects. Also, you use the lowest speed and you are not directly adding heat to make the cuticle lie flat (like straightening with a flat iron or even blow drying with a brush) so IMO it's not as damaging as some let on. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it.

Yes, what are your dews? Because some of the SM products have anti-humectants before the humectants, but some are straight up humectant (vegetable glycerin is what I have seen in some of the SM products). By SM leave in, do you mean the styling milk? I am going to re-look at the ingredients and see if I can help further.
Originally Posted by Samanthascurlz
Thanks for the answers Samanthascurlz Glad to know I'm not causing too much damage by diffusing.

As far as the dews, recently they have been really low like 15-20. It's been killer on my hair. Last winter, I had no problem with any kind of humectants. I was able to use Curl Keeper all year around. This winter, my hair dried out with all the humectants in CK. I've learned that as long as there aren't a ton of humectants and they aren't within the first 5 ingredients, my hair is ok with them no matter what the dew points are. I've also had to switch up my RO to something heavier this winter. It's quite frustrating to have to do trial and error every time the weather changes.
On a brighter note, I washed my hair today and used less product and no jojoba oil until I needed to scrunch out the crunch. My hair is virtually frizz free, defined and very moisturized.
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3a-3b, medium texture, medium porosity, color treated. 5 years CG

CO-wash: Suave Naturals, Tresemme Naturals
Rinse Out:GVP Conditioning Balm
Leave in: KCKT
Styler: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC, SM Coconut Hibiscus Gel Souffle
I am a failure. I purchased the CJ conditioner that I really wanted since I have some extra $$. I think I am complete now. Gotta add it to my list!
Originally Posted by sixelamy
I already failed too, I ordered some products from Sweet Curls Elixir because she had a sale going on and I've been wanting to try her products for so long, and THEN I found out about Spiral Solutions being on Etsy and I've been looking at their PT for over half a year now, and so I just splurged...I now have 5 more products added to my list of stuff I need to finish before buying anything else... I suck.

Another thing I bought was a silk haircap to sleep with to decrease the amount of frizz in the morning, I've been wanting one for a while now and I found a really cute one on ebay! It is something that should -hopefully- last me a long time though, so it's a responsible purchase in that regard, I guess?
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xox Marieke // Whisperes

2c (on top) & 3b high density, low porosity, fine, protein craving curls

Pre-poo & sealant: HPO Happy Scalp, Extra Virgin Coconut Oil
Co-wash: Oyin Handmade Honey Hemp Conditioner
Protein Treatment & Deep Conditioner: CJ Repair Me!, Spiral Solutions Protein Treatment
Rinse-out: CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner
Detangler: KCKT
Styling: KCSS, Mop Top Curly Custard
I gave away a few products but purchased a few too, they were actually en route when I typed my list. I gave away Suncoat mousse, Suncoat gel, Matrix elixir gel and Herbal Essence totally twisted mousse....4 down, gained 2.

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3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
hemp oil, jojoba oil
www.naturesnectars.net
Another thing I bought was a silk haircap to sleep with to decrease the amount of frizz in the morning, I've been wanting one for a while now and I found a really cute one on ebay! It is something that should -hopefully- last me a long time though, so it's a responsible purchase in that regard, I guess?
Originally Posted by Whisperes
What was the name of the shop that you got your haircap from? I hate the one that I have and looking for a good quality one.
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2c-3a - coarse - normal-high porosity - high density - growing out to donate

NP/LP: KMF Whenever Conditioner/ YTCucs
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed DC / CJ Argan & Olive Oil, KCKT, YTBbs
DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
OIL/STYLER: SM Elixir / KCCC
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
What was the name of the shop that you got your haircap from? I hate the one that I have and looking for a good quality one.
Originally Posted by sixelamy
I got it from PaulJulia Designs on eBay. This person stocks both silk and satin caps so that's something to pay close attention to. The listing for the cap that I got stated it as 100% silk in the description, unlike some of her others which just state "chiffon silk" in the header but don't determine if it's synthetic or actual silk in the description. And then some are satin.
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xox Marieke // Whisperes

2c (on top) & 3b high density, low porosity, fine, protein craving curls

Pre-poo & sealant: HPO Happy Scalp, Extra Virgin Coconut Oil
Co-wash: Oyin Handmade Honey Hemp Conditioner
Protein Treatment & Deep Conditioner: CJ Repair Me!, Spiral Solutions Protein Treatment
Rinse-out: CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner
Detangler: KCKT
Styling: KCSS, Mop Top Curly Custard
Thank you! 😏
2c-3a - coarse - normal-high porosity - high density - growing out to donate

NP/LP: KMF Whenever Conditioner/ YTCucs
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed DC / CJ Argan & Olive Oil, KCKT, YTBbs
DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
OIL/STYLER: SM Elixir / KCCC
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo

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