Too much breakage?

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Is this too much breakage??? Im medium length 3c/4c hair. Too much breakage?-imageuploadedbycurltalk1395645325.376373.jpg
If that is all mid shaft breakage yes, ideally you would have little to no breakage because that means your hair is getting damaged.

Are you sure none of it is normal shedding at the roots? You don't see any root bulbs? How many days and how many hairs are there? 50 to 100 shed hairs a day is normal I think.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
root bulbs meaning knots? no none of that. i actually picked most of it out of my tangle teezer detangling brush. i usually get this kinda breakage/shed after a wash. but im really thinking that is too much hair left behind in my brush. and its not from any particular spot its really from all over. 😔
Root bulbs are little white parts at one end of the hairs. I also go by how long the hairs are- if my hairs aren't close to my own length they are normally breakage. I spread them out on the shower wall to examine them since I finger detangle in the shower but you can stretch the ones you have out on a towel or tissue.

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Root bulbs are little white parts at one end of the hairs. I also go by how long the hairs are- if my hairs aren't close to my own length they are normally breakage. I spread them out on the shower wall to examine them since I finger detangle in the shower but you can stretch the ones you have out on a towel or tissue.

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Originally Posted by lolo918
o ok I see. So if I have root bulbs that is a bad sign? I dont have any btw; the hairs where not too long either so Im thinking im in good standing.
Root bulbs are little white parts at one end of the hairs. I also go by how long the hairs are- if my hairs aren't close to my own length they are normally breakage. I spread them out on the shower wall to examine them since I finger detangle in the shower but you can stretch the ones you have out on a towel or tissue.

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Originally Posted by lolo918
o ok I see. So if I have root bulbs that is a bad sign? I dont have any btw; the hairs where not too long either so Im thinking im in good standing.
Originally Posted by Banafrit
No, root bulbs are not a bad sign. If you're seeing root bulbs, that means the hairs were shed naturally as an entire strand. If there's no root bulb present, that means the strand broke somewhere midshaft. Hairs shed with root bulbs intact would only be a problem if you were seeing excessive amounts of them.

In terms of what might be "excessive"... We lose 50-100 hairs per day on average. For people with straight hair, those hairs fall away during brushing or just over the course of a day. For wavies /curlies who brush or detangle daily, they'll see those hairs come out during brushing or detangling. Other than that, shed hairs tend to stay wound in and amongst the waves /curls until the next detangling /washing session. For instance, say you wash every other day (and don't detangle in between)... then you'd potentially see 100-200 hairs in your shower drain.
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LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 KLS, Cure Care
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Pull a single hair out of your head and examine at the head end - that is the root bulb. It may be a different colour on a naturally shed hair, but if the hair in your brush is from mid shaft breakage there will be no root bulb at all.

If you do have a lot of breakage consider how you are grooming/ detangling and what tool you are using. Many curlies need to detangle only when hair is wet and slathered in a slippy conditioner never dry. Also can be better to use fingers or a super wide tooth comb not a brush: work slowly and patiently in small sections.

Research suggests breakage is linked to hairs wrapping around the bristles/ teeth so the fewer the better - hair that is more vulnerable is dyed, not properly conditioned or curly.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Oh and Tangle Teezers seem to work for some but cause terrible breakage for others. There is a lengthy thread over on the Long Hair Care forum which starts with a study on a similar detangling brush but continues with many forum users reporting problems with the TT itself.
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2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Apart from TT the other brush recommended but causes some curlies problems are Denman brushes.

Denman brushes are recommended for the tightly curly method but lots of bloggers report hair loss and/or split hair strands when they use one.
Oh and Tangle Teezers seem to work for some but cause terrible breakage for others. There is a lengthy thread over on the Long Hair Care forum which starts with a study on a similar detangling brush but continues with many forum users reporting problems with the TT itself.
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
Ok I see thanks for the insight. I will switch back to a wide tooth comb for my next wash and compare breakage.
I actually just switched to a paddle brush today and it worked WAY better than a wide tooth comb and a tangle teezer! I didn't see any breakage in the shower today!

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RO/Detangler: Tresseme Naturals, GVPCB
Leave-In: SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie, TN, GVPCB
Styler: EcoStyler, GF Pure Clean gel, KCCC

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by paddle brush do you mean those "goody" brand brushes? what hair type are you btw? Glad you found something that works for you ☺️
Hey!

Im predominantly a 3b/3c but i also have some 4a at my nape and sides. I bought a conair paddle brush from walmart the other day.

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2yrs 7 months post relaxer/2 years and 11 months natural

Cleanse: SM Moisture Retention or Suave Naturals shampoos
Co-Wash: Suave Naturals, L'Oreal EverCreme or EverCurl
RO/Detangler: Tresseme Naturals, GVPCB
Leave-In: SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie, TN, GVPCB
Styler: EcoStyler, GF Pure Clean gel, KCCC

Just discovering my hair likes protein!

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