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Hi everyone! I have never taken care of my hair and it has always been REALLY short. It's basically guy hair. But lately I've been trying to take care of my hair. I've been following the "curly girl" method, but with the exception of using a sulfate free shampoo. I need to learn how to style my hair though. I don't even know how/if I can put my hair into a bun or braid it, and that seems pretty basic. Ill post a pic I found that looks exactly like my hair when the site will allow me to. I know it looks horrible, but I just don't know what to do with it, but I know being a white girl in high school with an Afro like that isn't an option. Not trying to be racist but that does seem to have an effect on hairstyle. I would really appreciate any help I can get so I don't look stupid anymore.
~Krissy
I'm confused. When you say you've been following the CG method with the exception of using a sulfate free shampoo, do you mean that you're using one? If so, please rest assured that that's perfectly alright within the system.

I think that it would probably find it extremely helpful to get a copy of Curly Girl:The Handbook, by Lorraine Massey, as this would answer a lot of your questions, and have helpful suggestions (for instance, about styling).
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
Before the CG method I used to always wear my hair in braids. That was the limit of my hair knowledge. Based on what you are saying here I highly recommend you to get the book "Curly Girl: The Handbook": It is fairly cheap and contains the introductory course to taking care of your hair that you need. Curly Girl is much more than just washing.
CG since 8th of September 2013 - learning in progress!

3a/m/iii - waist length wet
Cleanser: Naturelle Volumizing
Conditioner/LI: Garnier Respons Avocadooil and Shea Butter, Schwarzkopf Gliss Ultimate Volume Conditioner
Styling: Eldorado Hairgel Strong
What I ment by using a sulfate-free shampoo. Is that I am using one. I believe that the CG method says to use no shampoo. The one I'm using now is "Shea Moisture Moisture Retention Shampoo", and I'm also using their hair masque every two weeks. I'm about to start using "tresemme naturals nourishing moisture conditioner", and "Ouidad Climate Control Heat And Humidity Gel". Should I also get a Moroccan argon oil? How exactly do you pronounce Ouidad? I'll post updates about these products as I try them, but how do I cover every single hair? I have really thick hair and I've notice I can get the top and get the bottom, but the middle layer area still not be covered. Is this normal? When I pulled my hair up to measure the diameter for the thickness classification it was easily over 4 inches, and I couldn't even get it all up!
CG-method allows for sulfate-free gentle cleansers that are not conditioners.

Regarding covering, the answer in section it up! I also have really thick hair and there is no chance I can distribute the product evenly without sectioning it. Did the mistake in the beginning to try to just scrunch things in. Not a chance. Some people prefer raking it in but even then I need sections to be able to do it properly.
CG since 8th of September 2013 - learning in progress!

3a/m/iii - waist length wet
Cleanser: Naturelle Volumizing
Conditioner/LI: Garnier Respons Avocadooil and Shea Butter, Schwarzkopf Gliss Ultimate Volume Conditioner
Styling: Eldorado Hairgel Strong
Can I even section my short hair? creative fan com/hairstyles-for-men-with-thick-hair/ Put that together and look at the "Thick Curly Medium Hairstyle" towards the bottom of the page. It wouldn't let me post the link together, but this is the best way to show what my hair is currently like. My bangs are a little bit longer than that pic, but it was the best one I could find. I am really tired of putting up with short hair so I won't have a huge frizzy Afro though. If I try to brush out my hair with a wide tooth comb in the shower it gets really frizzy when it dries. This might mean it needs more moisture though. I can't imagine what it would do if I sectioned it though. What do you think?
I can't figure out where that pic is at?
What I ment by using a sulfate-free shampoo. Is that I am using one. I believe that the CG method says to use no shampoo. The one I'm using now is "Shea Moisture Moisture Retention Shampoo", and I'm also using their hair masque every two weeks. I'm about to start using "tresemme naturals nourishing moisture conditioner", and "Ouidad Climate Control Heat And Humidity Gel". Should I also get a Moroccan argon oil? How exactly do you pronounce Ouidad? I'll post updates about these products as I try them, but how do I cover every single hair? I have really thick hair and I've notice I can get the top and get the bottom, but the middle layer area still not be covered. Is this normal? When I pulled my hair up to measure the diameter for the thickness classification it was easily over 4 inches, and I couldn't even get it all up!
Originally Posted by KrissyB
I believe it is pronounced "wee-dad".

Just so you are aware, I think there is a silicone in the Climate Control gel, and the Shea Moisture shampoo will not take the silicone out. You will need a sulfate free shampoo with coco betaine. Yes To Cucumbers is a good one you can find in the drugstore.

What's the Scoop on Silicones?
2c-3a - coarse - normal-high porosity - high density - growing out to donate

NP/LP: KMF Whenever Conditioner/ YTCucs
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed DC / CJ Argan & Olive Oil, KCKT, YTBbs
DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
OIL/STYLER: SM Elixir / KCCC
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
Chupie, it's the 10th pic down I think. Would Shea Moisture black African Soap work with the ouidad gel too?
Chupie, it's the 10th pic down I think. Would Shea Moisture black African Soap work with the ouidad gel too?
Originally Posted by KrissyB
But on what page?
Chupie, it's the 10th pic down I think. Would Shea Moisture black African Soap work with the ouidad gel too?
Originally Posted by KrissyB
This one?
CG since 11/2011
2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's (link) as needed
If it's the picture linked to above: I section my boyfriends super-thick hair when I cut him and it is at most that length. Get some good super-long clips and it should be fine. But just for styling I don't think you would have that much of an issue. As the upper layers does not lie on the lower ones, which it easily does with long hair you should be able to distribute product evenly without sectioning if you just are careful and make sure you do each area.

As for the soap, I would be careful. If you are new at this it is better to take a product that works for more people, like the schampo you were recommended, than to pick a product that can both be damaging and cause build up, which might be hard to notice, identify and deal with if you are new to this.
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CG since 8th of September 2013 - learning in progress!

3a/m/iii - waist length wet
Cleanser: Naturelle Volumizing
Conditioner/LI: Garnier Respons Avocadooil and Shea Butter, Schwarzkopf Gliss Ultimate Volume Conditioner
Styling: Eldorado Hairgel Strong
Yes, that's the picture. I've gotten used to picking out bad products by now. My mom has always loved my curls, since she has really fine straight hair. And she buys all kinds of cheap products because they say they were made for curly hair. I usually end up having to use a clarifying shampoo to get it all out. I think I can tell fairly well about the products then. I just want to know if that particular shampoo can remove the silicone from the Ouidad gel.
It is very possible to use cheap products. All my products are really cheap, in my experience it is actually easier to find cheap products without silicones etc. You have to be very careful with them though and read on everything. (low-poos that are cheap seem to be harder to find though)
CG since 8th of September 2013 - learning in progress!

3a/m/iii - waist length wet
Cleanser: Naturelle Volumizing
Conditioner/LI: Garnier Respons Avocadooil and Shea Butter, Schwarzkopf Gliss Ultimate Volume Conditioner
Styling: Eldorado Hairgel Strong
I realize some inexpensive products are good, but "cheap" products no matter what they cost aren't good. Sorry for being an English nazi, but it really makes it easier to talk over the internet if it's clear what everyone means.
I'm not sure what you mean by cheap but according to every dictionary I own cheap has two meanings, where one is inexpensive. You are welcome to point out mistakes but I would like to remind you that even English is a language spoken in several different areas of the world and the usual meaning of a world where you usually communicate might not be the same in another part. Words can also have several meanings.
CG since 8th of September 2013 - learning in progress!

3a/m/iii - waist length wet
Cleanser: Naturelle Volumizing
Conditioner/LI: Garnier Respons Avocadooil and Shea Butter, Schwarzkopf Gliss Ultimate Volume Conditioner
Styling: Eldorado Hairgel Strong
I'm starting to really reconsider the ouidad gel. I'm not sure what I need . The Shea moisture shampoo has been great for my hair compared to what I had been using, but It seems to dry out my hair at first. My hair feels like it should about the third day after the wash, but then it's time to wash again. Do I need to find another shampoo? Or just wait and see when I finally get a cone free conditioner? I'm not using any conditioner right now other than the hair mask every 2 weeks which makes my hair feel great, so I don't see any reason to change that. I like my curls, but I don't want them to get any tighter. Does this mean I don't want definition? Can you recommend products detailing what each one does and provide a link to a website where I can look at it? I can tell what products are just really horrible for my hair/ causing build up/ dryness/ ect. , but I'm not sure what's an acceptable level given the circumstances and how the products are reacting to each other.
I'm not sure what you mean by cheap but according to every dictionary I own cheap has two meanings, where one is inexpensive. You are welcome to point out mistakes but I would like to remind you that even English is a language spoken in several different areas of the world and the usual meaning of a world where you usually communicate might not be the same in another part. Words can also have several meanings.
Originally Posted by Jimipe
I'm aware of that, and people here use cheap exchangeably with inexpensive, but it seems, to me at least, that it would be a lot simpler to have a distinction between the two. I apologize if I offended you.
I agree that it makes it a lot easier if everyone understands each other. Absolutely. It does however not mean that one usage of a word suddenly is wrong, and clearly not in this case. You could just have said "Oh, I see you misunderstood me, I meant cheap as in X and you seem to be as in Y".

Regarding curl pattern, I would honestly suggest starting by trying to get a routine that works and after that, when your curl pattern is at it's best natural, then consider trying to manipulate the curl texture. Very often people grow to like the curls when they see them as they should be, and even if you don't, it is usually easier to try to get one thing working than doing a lot of new things at once.

Using shampoo, even a low-poo or no-poo one, without rinse-out conditioner does not sound very healthy. It might well be why it seems drying to you. Are you at least using some leave-in conditioner?
CG since 8th of September 2013 - learning in progress!

3a/m/iii - waist length wet
Cleanser: Naturelle Volumizing
Conditioner/LI: Garnier Respons Avocadooil and Shea Butter, Schwarzkopf Gliss Ultimate Volume Conditioner
Styling: Eldorado Hairgel Strong
No I'm not. My hair is in a lot better shape than it was though. I haven't been able to find any of the products that I was looking for around here. I'm probably going to have to order most products, or drive a long way to get them. So I figure I'll save some time and just order them. I could go look through a bunch of lables and try to find something, but I'd rather not do that either.

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