my hair wont clump like it used to? :(

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ok so 2 years ago i straightned my hair a few times , foolishly without using heat protector. ever since, ive been trying my hardest to take care of my hair and havent put heat on my hair since. however while looking through an old photo i realized my hair texture had changed. and these photos were taken AFTER i had stopped using the heat fully. , in both photos my hair is wet

why isnt my hair clumping anymore? what can i do to take all that frizz out and have my hair clump together in nice curls like it used to? what is my hair type?
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Do you deep condition? What moisturizers do you use?
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Do you deep condition? What moisturizers do you use?
Originally Posted by chupie
no , i dont deep condition frequently and i use either an oil (jojoba oil, olive oil, sweet almond oil) or giovanni direct leave in
I guess I'd try some more deep conditions as a first step. I've seen here and the Curly Hair Artistry Guild say at least once a week especially in winter. I'd sure start there.
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I guess I'd try some more deep conditions as a first step. I've seen here and the Curly Hair Artistry Guild say at least once a week especially in winter. I'd sure start there.
Originally Posted by chupie
Thanks so much! i will try that and see how it goes
I agree with Chupie. I'd deep condition regularly for a while and see if that helps. One thing I recently found that I think is helpful for moisture and preventing damage is Suave Professionals Natural Infusion Awapuhi Ginger and Honeysuckle Light Leave-in Cream. I just recently started using it and I really like it. I co-wash my hair daily (not everyone does this) and I apply this cream before I pin my hair up so I can apply my makeup. Then I take my hair out of the pin and style as normal.

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I'm definitely a "curly" 2c. Sometimes curly and sometimes just wavy upper layer with a ringlety under layer. My hair has been thick and coarse since birth. Strawberry blonde in color that can and does change depending on the type and amount of light.


All in all, I'm happy with my hair type but almost for sure think yours is prettier.
_If_ the OP is CG, this would not be an appropriate product because of its containing silicones and petroleum products. I also suspect that it wouldn't help clumping because of its mineral oil and petrolatum; I'm not sure about the cones and how they would affect clumping.
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Morgan

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It might be most helpful to condition with a product with emulsifier(s) than straight up oils, as that would help the oils and water to work together. That's my take on my personal observations that my hair clumps best with conditioner.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
Agree. Also when you do use oils I know that jojoba at least can be drying and cause frizz in some. Coconut is better at penetrating the hair. Smaller molecules.
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I agree with Chupie. I'd deep condition regularly for a while and see if that helps. One thing I recently found that I think is helpful for moisture and preventing damage is Suave Professionals Natural Infusion Awapuhi Ginger and Honeysuckle Light Leave-in Cream. I just recently started using it and I really like it. I co-wash my hair daily (not everyone does this) and I apply this cream before I pin my hair up so I can apply my makeup. Then I take my hair out of the pin and style as normal.
Originally Posted by AngelaE8654
Thank you!!!
_If_ the OP is CG, this would not be an appropriate product because of its containing silicones and petroleum products. I also suspect that it wouldn't help clumping because of its mineral oil and petrolatum; I'm not sure about the cones and how they would affect clumping.
Originally Posted by Morgan_Adcock
What is OP? And yeah in my first picture I was still using conditioners with silicones (cantu Shea butter, tresemme) however I stopped around the middle of last year but I will most defiantly try some Deep condtioners, thank you so much!
Agree. Also when you do use oils I know that jojoba at least can be drying and cause frizz in some. Coconut is better at penetrating the hair. Smaller molecules.
Originally Posted by chupie
Okay and yes I tried coconut oil on my hair, NOT A GOOD MIX , after 2 days my whole hair and scalp stank really bad :|
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When there is heat (or any other damage) protein DTs are what's really needed. Direct heat to the hair causes erosion of the cuticle, here's a pic of what heat can do to hair:

Even if the damage is less, as in the next pic, moisture will escape from the hair easily so moisturizing DTs by themselves won't really help, protein treatments will act as "spackle" on the hair and temporarily repair it and keep the moisture in.


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Hmmmm. That's unusual. Generally people just use some coconut oil on the hair shaft and leave it overnight before a wash day. Are you using a no poo with coco betaine or other gentle surficant? It should be enough to rid you of the excess.
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Chupie has a point there. Could there be build-up preventing moisture to get in the hairshaft? You might want to clarify first.

What helped me after I OP-ed (over proteined) my hair is a mixture of 3 tbsp cone free conditioner with 1 tbsp honey (mix this well) and AVG. I scrunch that in toweldry hair (you can even cover your scalp with it!) and put some wheat germ oil on the ends of my hair. Wheat germ oil contains a lot of good stuff and penetrates the hair.
Then I put on a shower cap and wait for an hour before rinsing thoroughly.

My hair looks fried and dry after OP-ing and this always makes my hair moisturized and clumpy.

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Hmmmm. That's unusual. Generally people just use some coconut oil on the hair shaft and leave it overnight before a wash day. Are you using a no poo with coco betaine or other gentle surficant? It should be enough to rid you of the excess.
Originally Posted by chupie
Oooooh! Usually when I used to use coconut oil I would leave it in as a moisturizer. And I don't poo often. However I just started pooing once a month using Shea butter curl and shine
Chupie has a point there. Could there be build-up preventing moisture to get in the hairshaft? You might want to clarify first.

What helped me after I OP-ed (over proteined) my hair is a mixture of 3 tbsp cone free conditioner with 1 tbsp honey (mix this well) and AVG. I scrunch that in toweldry hair (you can even cover your scalp with it!) and put some wheat germ oil on the ends of my hair. Wheat germ oil contains a lot of good stuff and penetrates the hair.
Then I put on a shower cap and wait for an hour before rinsing thoroughly.

My hair looks fried and dry after OP-ing and this always makes my hair moisturized and clumpy.

2b-3a med-fine low porosity
Blog: KrullenWijzer.nl
Originally Posted by rapunzel4ever
Mmmm okay! So what should I use to clarify? Is the above recipe something that you used as a deep conditioner? If so I will defiantly give it a try next week when I wash my hair again
When there is heat (or any other damage) protein DTs are what's really needed. Direct heat to the hair causes erosion of the cuticle, here's a pic of what heat can do to hair:

Even if the damage is less, as in the next pic, moisture will escape from the hair easily so moisturizing DTs by themselves won't really help, protein treatments will act as "spackle" on the hair and temporarily repair it and keep the moisture in.


Originally Posted by CGSince2002
Thanks! Do you have any suggestions to keep the moisture in?
OP = other person
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
Any clarifying sulfate shampoo should work. Since you won't use it hardly ever I'd go for wine thing inexpensive like suave.

Do you have a Sally's? You can by packets of deep condition there or try something like the As I am intensive treatment which I hear is great. I also hear their leave in is awesome.
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