Heavy Products

I was just thinking...

Most curly brands advertise "lightweight" products.

But does EVERYBODY want lightweight products?

Im looking for heavyweight products only bc...the way my curls are set up...my hair just looks better to me when its weighed down.

I use EcoStyler gels and i leave a good amount of conditioner in my hair under the gel to keep my curls elongated.

I tried Mixed Chicks leave in yesterday...and liked it...but took it back bc it was SO lightweight on my hair and id need a gel over it. I also can get similar results with just leaving in regular conditioner. I was at least expecting the "crunch" that so many curlies said they experienced...but it didnt happen.

Anyway...i would've kept it if it was a heavier product. Does anyone know of any HEAVY stylers i could try?
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2yrs 7 months post relaxer/2 years and 11 months natural

Cleanse: SM Moisture Retention or Suave Naturals shampoos
Co-Wash: Suave Naturals, L'Oreal EverCreme or EverCurl
RO/Detangler: Tresseme Naturals, GVPCB
Leave-In: SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie, TN, GVPCB
Styler: EcoStyler, GF Pure Clean gel, KCCC

Just discovering my hair likes protein!

I love the Shea Moisture curl smoothie. It's thick and creamy and does great things.
2B/C; very, very thick fine to medium hair; low porosity.

Current Products:
Co-Wash: Jane Carter Revitalizing CoWash
Conditioner: Aubrey Organics Island Replenishing, Aubrey Organics GPB, KCKT
Leave-In: Alaffia Hair Lotion
Stylers: KCCC, Beautiful Curls Curl Cream, Giovanni Mousse, KCCC Refresher[/FONT]



"Forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair." -Khalil Gibran
I love that stuff too...but i always feel like i have to use a heavy gel over it

Otherwise my hair becomes a balloon and wants to sail away lol! A day like today i wouldn't mind...but for work I'd like more weight.

Im considering just going back to using cones. Ive actually already kinda started.

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2yrs 7 months post relaxer/2 years and 11 months natural

Cleanse: SM Moisture Retention or Suave Naturals shampoos
Co-Wash: Suave Naturals, L'Oreal EverCreme or EverCurl
RO/Detangler: Tresseme Naturals, GVPCB
Leave-In: SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie, TN, GVPCB
Styler: EcoStyler, GF Pure Clean gel, KCCC

Just discovering my hair likes protein!

For me, a heavier product makes my hair look like normal hair. A light product makes it look like a huge expanding web around my head.
2c/3a, dense, fairly coarse, normal porosity and elasticity, bsl curly, WL wet
Low poo: Giovanni 50 50
Co-wash: down under naturals, tresume naturals
RO: AOHR
LI: Giovanni Direct, Desert Essence curl cream
Stylers: kccc, HE smu, brhg
Oils: coconut, argan or evoo
I second the Shea Moisture curl smoothie. That's actually TOO heavy for me but does define curls very, very well.


I'm definitely a "curly" 2c. Sometimes curly and sometimes just wavy upper layer with a ringlety under layer. My hair has been thick and coarse since birth. Strawberry blonde in color that can and does change depending on the type and amount of light.


All in all, I'm happy with my hair type but almost for sure think yours is prettier.
You can use shea moisture deep treatment masque as a styler. That's pretty heavy

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Generally speaking, I think most curl creams are heavier. A lot of people like the Cantu curl cream, but I think it does have cones. Whether or not you want heavier products probably depends on hair and curl type. I have dense but fine hair, and just length tends to pull it down somewhat. I don't want it weighed down more. But if I had a tighter curl pattern I might want more weight.
3a/b, F, normal porosity

Wash with either Suave Tropical Coconut, As I Am, or CJ Daily Fix
Condition with STC or Yes to Blueberries and detangle with Denman, rinse very lightly (baptismal rinse)
Add LAL gel, either Sport or Wet Look, scrunch with flour sack towel, and plop
Diffuse 5 minutes, then air dry
The SM line. You might still need a gel over it though for hold/definition.
fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: no guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, gelatin gel

Recent findings: my hair likes Cure Care diluted with water as a cowash; does NOT like guar h.c.!

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The DevaCurl Heaven in Hair is very heavy. That would definitely give you some weight. It is their deep conditioner but I know that they use it as a leave-in/styler for some curlies in their shop.
Hair
Type: 3c/b; Density: M; Texture: M-C; Porosity: L-N; Length: APL curly, WL stretched

Products
Oil: CO, MO
Cleanser: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo
Conditioner: SM Restorative Conditioner/ Noni and Monoi Conditioner
DC: SM Noni and Monoi Mask
Leave-In: Giovani Direct
Styler: CRN Curl Maker

Regimen
Condition twice a week; Cleanse once a week; DC as needed; Henna as needed.

CG since 3/31/12
Hennahead since 7/2/13
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cj honey butta leave in (start with using VERY LITTLE!)
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
I prefer lighter weight products because then I can use more of them. Heavier products just sit on top of my hair and in some cases makes it frizzy.

I have tight coils and use Eco styler too. I noticed when I use lighter conditioners and just used more, got that "heavy" look I was trying to get from using the heavier products but the hair looks better, felt better and moves around. And I can use less gel. I am actually trying to move away from using Eco because it is hard to not be heavy handed (and I feel like I am addicted to it, but that's another thread, lol).

So (for me) the elongated look actually comes my hair being super conditioned and using lighter products, not from heavier ones. Edit: I wanted to add something else. Having fine hair and such a tight curl pattern, it was tricky trying to figure out how to get my hair to "calm down". When I reduced my shampoo, increased protein treatments and increased my re-wetting frequency (I rinse/condition a ton), my hair began to have it's own "weight" to it.
4a/3c, fine strands, low porosity, medium density
Last relaxer: Jan 2010 - BC'd: 2/27/11
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Last edited by artemis513; 05-04-2014 at 08:54 AM.
cj honey butta leave in (start with using VERY LITTLE!)
Originally Posted by rbb
How does the Honey Butta compare to CCCC in terms of heaviness/richness? I'm using LALSG with CCCC underneath (plus leave in). The LALSG is a bit drying so I need a little extra something under it, and I like the CCCC, but you know there might be something even better out there!
3a/b, F, normal porosity

Wash with either Suave Tropical Coconut, As I Am, or CJ Daily Fix
Condition with STC or Yes to Blueberries and detangle with Denman, rinse very lightly (baptismal rinse)
Add LAL gel, either Sport or Wet Look, scrunch with flour sack towel, and plop
Diffuse 5 minutes, then air dry
i also found the lalsg drying and stopped using it once marsha came out with cj pattern pusha.

so, cccc vs honey butta leave in -- well, i love both and always have a jar of each. altho they both have glycerin, they are both great in low dews, i used both this winter. i guess it's in the formulation.

cccc gives me more shine, less curl definition. honey butta really curls my hair. i also use leave in with both and use both sparingly -- a little goes a very long way.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
and i usually don't need gel with honey butta. sometimes i do with cccc, other times not. i can apply the cjpp on dry hair, so oftentimes i wait to see how it dries.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
Low dews aren't much of an issue here, or at least not very low dews. I don't think it really went below about 35 last summer, which was the first year I checked. Sounds like I'll have to try out the Butta, and retry PP. I got a sample of PP, but wasn't too thrilled with it then; however, I'm much surer of my technique now so I may have an entirely different opinion. Thanks!
3a/b, F, normal porosity

Wash with either Suave Tropical Coconut, As I Am, or CJ Daily Fix
Condition with STC or Yes to Blueberries and detangle with Denman, rinse very lightly (baptismal rinse)
Add LAL gel, either Sport or Wet Look, scrunch with flour sack towel, and plop
Diffuse 5 minutes, then air dry

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