Some before/after pics

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The first was taken about 3 years ago, the other two today. I always thought I was a fuzzy 2a, but it looks like I'm actually more 2b/c. The twist however is that I was CG in the first picture too... I had stopped using sulfates for at least 1 year, and no cones too. I didn't use any stylers however, and generally treated my hair like it was straight. Although it looks a bit dry and I'm sure it was, it was generally healthy: I never straightened or used heat tools, no dye, or chemical altering. May have had some subtle highlights; don't remember.

Today I used for the first time IAgirl's flax seed curl cream recipe: Science-y Hair Blog: What's Cooking This Week (8-13-11). I mixed together FSG + CNPF, Volumax Mega gel and a squirt of CJ Repair Me, eyeballing the ratios. I raked it in on wet hair, scrunched (head right side up) to reset the pattern, then scrunched again with a cotton t-shirt. I air-dried.

I love how it looks in the back.

But, I hate how it looks in the front. It's really flat, and not flattering at all. I feel like I'm getting somewhere here... but I'm stuck.
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fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: no guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, gelatin gel

Recent findings: my hair likes Cure Care diluted with water as a cowash; does NOT like guar h.c.!

iherb discount code: CFN646

Last edited by wavydaze; 04-27-2014 at 04:20 AM.
Using stylers usually takes a lot of volume away in favour for definition. Have you "fluffed your roots" after scrunching out the crunch and have you considered trying clipping to get more volume? Or do you mean flat as in straight...
CG since 8th of September 2013 - learning in progress!

3a/m/iii - waist length wet
Cleanser: Naturelle Volumizing
Conditioner/LI: Garnier Respons Avocadooil and Shea Butter, Schwarzkopf Gliss Ultimate Volume Conditioner
Styling: Eldorado Hairgel Strong
Using stylers usually takes a lot of volume away in favour for definition. Have you "fluffed your roots" after scrunching out the crunch and have you considered trying clipping to get more volume? Or do you mean flat as in straight...
Originally Posted by Jimipe
Yes I did fluff!

Flat as in no volume.

You know, I did have some clips from Sally's but I lost them all. Maybe I just need to bite the bullet and order some.

But then here's the problem... I can't airdry with those things in my hair for 6-8 hours on every wash day....
fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: no guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, gelatin gel

Recent findings: my hair likes Cure Care diluted with water as a cowash; does NOT like guar h.c.!

iherb discount code: CFN646
Oh yeah, I used to do this thing (back before I used stylers) where I would flip the front pieces from side to side... this would give me crown volume as well as get my hair out of my face as it naturally falls forward.

I can't seem to do this now..... I think once the hair is "set" it's set, and moving it a lot just causes frizz and other weirdness. So I can't go back to that method seemingly. This is what I mean I seem to have solved one problem and created another.
fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: no guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, gelatin gel

Recent findings: my hair likes Cure Care diluted with water as a cowash; does NOT like guar h.c.!

iherb discount code: CFN646
There are different ways to clip. My hair takes forever to dry so I usually use low heat to get it to the gel-cast level. I tend to use smaller sized claw clamps to clip up the crown-area, in a way that looks acceptable for going out, but still gives a bit of extra volume. When I'm at home I prefer more regular clips, but as you said, you cannot really walk around with them long enough. I know some other wavie had experiemented a bit more with clipping using claw clips rather than the deva-style clips, like rainbow clipping or something? Someone else might be able to help more...
CG since 8th of September 2013 - learning in progress!

3a/m/iii - waist length wet
Cleanser: Naturelle Volumizing
Conditioner/LI: Garnier Respons Avocadooil and Shea Butter, Schwarzkopf Gliss Ultimate Volume Conditioner
Styling: Eldorado Hairgel Strong
There are different ways to clip. My hair takes forever to dry so I usually use low heat to get it to the gel-cast level. I tend to use smaller sized claw clamps to clip up the crown-area, in a way that looks acceptable for going out, but still gives a bit of extra volume.
Originally Posted by Jimipe
How do you do this?

Chupie does the rainbow-clipping thing... I think she still uses the metal duckbill clips though. Hmmm...
fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: no guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, gelatin gel

Recent findings: my hair likes Cure Care diluted with water as a cowash; does NOT like guar h.c.!

iherb discount code: CFN646
Hmm... I'll try to get a photo next time. But, essentially I clip my hair away from my face, up on my crown very loosely. That way I release the roots from the weight and still allow them to curl. It won't give me the same amount of volume as using the big duckbill clips do, but it allows me to get a bit more volume and get my hair to dry in a good direction (=away from my face).
CG since 8th of September 2013 - learning in progress!

3a/m/iii - waist length wet
Cleanser: Naturelle Volumizing
Conditioner/LI: Garnier Respons Avocadooil and Shea Butter, Schwarzkopf Gliss Ultimate Volume Conditioner
Styling: Eldorado Hairgel Strong
There are different ways to clip. My hair takes forever to dry so I usually use low heat to get it to the gel-cast level.
Originally Posted by Jimipe
Oh yeah, do you diffuse? it seems like whenever I do, I am actually more likely to break the gel cast than set it. Even sometimes with hard hold gels like volumax, it just disappears. Granted, I know I don't have the world's best diffuser/hairdryer.
fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: no guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, gelatin gel

Recent findings: my hair likes Cure Care diluted with water as a cowash; does NOT like guar h.c.!

iherb discount code: CFN646
I don't have a diffuser My hair takes a bit more than 16 hours to air dry without product though, probably more like 24 in the winter, so it isn't really possible. What I do is to either use 12 huge duckbill clips to clip up my hair (as if I would be plopping, but without fabric covering) and then use my hair drier at low warmth to blow at one place at a time, let it cool down, and then remove the clips. Or, I use my portable soft "hood"-thing that goes with my dryer. I've realised that I cannot dry all the way, and I need to keep my hair absolutely still when drying. Otherwise the gelcast created will go away immeadiatly. Plus, it needs to cool down before moving as well.
CG since 8th of September 2013 - learning in progress!

3a/m/iii - waist length wet
Cleanser: Naturelle Volumizing
Conditioner/LI: Garnier Respons Avocadooil and Shea Butter, Schwarzkopf Gliss Ultimate Volume Conditioner
Styling: Eldorado Hairgel Strong
There are different ways to clip. My hair takes forever to dry so I usually use low heat to get it to the gel-cast level. I tend to use smaller sized claw clamps to clip up the crown-area, in a way that looks acceptable for going out, but still gives a bit of extra volume.
Originally Posted by Jimipe
How do you do this?

Chupie does the rainbow-clipping thing... I think she still uses the metal duckbill clips though. Hmmm...
Originally Posted by wavydaze
I do, but I began clipping with claw clips. Actually you can probably use claw clips in a way that would be fine to wear out while they also let your crown dry for some volume. Kind of like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLkT8SbNYjo
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