Not as curly on top

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I have 3a curls, but on top, my hair seems to straighten and not curl as much. Any suggestions on what to do??? I have been using matrix conditioning balm for my cowash, and devacurl for everything else. I've tried plopping, which helps a bit, but then it flattens on the top. Perhaps I'm not plopping right. If I don't plop, it's a stringy mess.
Thanks!!
I have 3a curls, but on top, my hair seems to straighten and not curl as much. Any suggestions on what to do??? I have been using matrix conditioning balm for my cowash, and devacurl for everything else. I've tried plopping, which helps a bit, but then it flattens on the top. Perhaps I'm not plopping right. If I don't plop, it's a stringy mess.
Thanks!!
Originally Posted by rachaelpainter
I have 3a curls too but I have a "straighter" top layer; especially when the weather is warm or hot and dry. "Wavy" hair types tend to have this; warm, dry weather makes it less wavy/curly. My underneath layer is ringlets, however. You and I both likely have type 2c curls and this is one indication. Although I love my curls, this really doesn't bother me as my hair tends to look super shiny and sparkly when my upper layer is less curly.


I'm definitely a "curly" 2c. Sometimes curly and sometimes just wavy upper layer with a ringlety under layer. My hair has been thick and coarse since birth. Strawberry blonde in color that can and does change depending on the type and amount of light.


All in all, I'm happy with my hair type but almost for sure think yours is prettier.
I'd say this is mixed 2c-3a hair, and not uncommon. I have this myself. I WISH, WISH my top layer was as gorgeous curls as the layers underneath but not much helps other than scrunching with gel(I HAVE to use styling product - my hair is not a pretty sight without it LOL). I condition like a trouper too, and studiously avoid sulfates and silicones as well. The only time I use a sulfate is when I clarify once a month and I always PT and DT after that. Yes, warm dry weather will make looser curl patterns just droop. When I lived in the Southwest, my hair freaked out and lost a lot of its waves and curls, until it got more accustomed to the climate. Still, my hair is wavier and curlier here in SF than it was there. We have better water too. My hair loves cool moist weather.
Very common. I wonder how much has to do with UV damage.
Very common. I wonder how much has to do with UV damage.
Originally Posted by chupie
Normally, I would think this might be a clue, but I live in Western Washington State and have just about my entire life (except for 15 months when I was a kid and we lived in Texas). When the sun shines here, it's Paradise. But we don't get direct sunlight as much as other states and I have this same thing: my top layer is a lot less curly than my underneath. On days that are not warm or hot and dry, my top layer is relatively curly. When it's hot and dry, my top layer is just wavy. My underneath layer is ringlets, though. I think it's simply our "curl type"; apparently the "wavy" types tend to lose curl in hot weather.


I'm definitely a "curly" 2c. Sometimes curly and sometimes just wavy upper layer with a ringlety under layer. My hair has been thick and coarse since birth. Strawberry blonde in color that can and does change depending on the type and amount of light.


All in all, I'm happy with my hair type but almost for sure think yours is prettier.
I use duckbill clips at the roots when I'm drying my hair using a diffuser. I've noticed it removes some of the "weight" from the roots and I can lift the roots up. I also use bobby pins to create some height. This worked well for me when my hair was waist-length.
UV does penetrate cloud cover and even full shade to varying degrees, cloud cover more so than shade, so there is a potential for some UV damage even in a climate with fewer sun days. I think there are probably varying reasons for the flatness, though. In my case, it seems to be partly because the weight of my hair pulls it flatter. I don't get a lot more curling with shorter layers, but I do get more volume. I just use clips while it's drying to help.
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do you mean the top few inches of growth? or the entire top canopy?

the top few inches not being as curly or even maybe just wavy is the way 3a curls are. i have found as i go along on my cg journey that while the top is not as curly as the rest, it definitely has gotten curlier and always has some volume, not flat at all.

just keep giving your hair moisture and as the new hair grows in it will curl to whatever capacity it has.

if you are talking about the top layer, then maybe you need to seal after your leave in.
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Because the "flat top" is common it was addressed in the original "Curly Girl" book, and here's a video that shows how to place clips to lift a flat crown. Here's another brief video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzFt-hSCFIY And here's a different way done when the hair is mostly dry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLsFfu09Nf4
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Because the "flat top" is common it was addressed in the original "Curly Girl" book, and here's a video that shows how to place clips to lift a flat crown. Here's another brief video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzFt-hSCFIY And here's a different way done when the hair is mostly dry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLsFfu09Nf4, the clipping starts at 4:15.
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I second clipping and scrunching with gel. I find if I give my roots a REALLY firm scrunch it helps give them more curl. (But then again I also have more wavy roots instead of pure straight depending on the day.)

Also I recently got a hair cut with some shorter layers and I definitely recommend it if you want more volume on the sides close to your roots, or just volume in general.

I would also say try washing upside down (if you can) and try diffusing. Diffusing gives me so much more volume, and you can manipulate the bowl to just heighten the roots. HTH!

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Also I recently got a hair cut with some shorter layers and I definitely recommend it if you want more volume on the sides close to your roots, or just volume in general.
Originally Posted by waterlily716

I did too and that really helps with volume. I have plenty of volume, which I'm happy about. When I would straighten my hair it was too flat, in my opinion.


I'm definitely a "curly" 2c. Sometimes curly and sometimes just wavy upper layer with a ringlety under layer. My hair has been thick and coarse since birth. Strawberry blonde in color that can and does change depending on the type and amount of light.


All in all, I'm happy with my hair type but almost for sure think yours is prettier.

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