Baking soda & hard water

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We have hard water here and I was wondering if it would be a problem to wash my hair with a baking soda rinse?

I'm reading so much about "science" stuff about build-up and clarifying, hard water etc. I'm getting really confused.
I saw someone on the YouTube channel who's washing her curly hair with some baking soda rinse. But I wonder if hard water could cause a problem when rinsing the baking soda out.

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Im just gessing you could get mineral buildup of calcium plus the carbonates, you might need a specific shampoo or vinegar to rinse out.
Many people use the vinegar after the baking soda wash anyway to neutralize the pH, so I gess you could try that.
This thread is worth the read if you are considering putting baking soda on your hair or scalp:

Baking soda is making my hair dry now?

You would be better off finding a chelating shampoo to remove mineral build up. Just do a google search for one in your price range.

Here's a good article on hard water build up:

How to Prevent Hair Build Up from Hard Water
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You definitely need to follow baking soda with an acid rinse. The hard water may have an effect, but also probably depends on how hard your water actually is. In any case, baking soda might not be the best choice for you. It can be quite harsh for hair, and since yours is fine you might not want to risk it. Are you looking for a new wash method (definitely advise against baking soda for that) or just want to clarify (baking soda can work, but use a small amount--better yet, just use shampoo)?
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Thanks for all your input!
I've read the articles and I know I have to follow up with ACV. To be honest, I use a mild acv-rinse after every wash. I've noticed I need a lot less conditioner to detangle my hair, when I do so.

It's hard to find a shampoo with chelating properties that doesn't contain SLES, protein or polyquats. Protein and polyquats are giving me buildup problems too, so I really like to avoid them when washing my hair.
I have KC Come Clean, but even heavily diluted I find this very drying on my scalp.

Do you know of a mild chelating poo without protein/polyquats?

This is where I found the recipe BTW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiOq...e_gdata_player
She mixes baking soda with ACV and a tiny amount of coconut oil and water.
I didn't intend to use this recipe very often.

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Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl
Curl Junkie Daily Fix contains EDTA which can remove mineral build up:

Curl Junkie Daily Fix Cleansing Conditioner - NaturallyCurly
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NoPoo: JC Cleansing Cream
Rinse Outs: SS:PRT, CJ Repair Me, CJ Argan
Detangler: KCKT
Leave-in: CJ Repair me
Stylers: UFDCM, BRHG
Refreshers: Batiste (dry shampoo) on the roots & UFDCM everywhere else

iHerb Discount Code: SAF007

Curl Junkie Daily Fix contains EDTA which can remove mineral build up:

Curl Junkie Daily Fix Cleansing Conditioner - NaturallyCurly
Originally Posted by sheilacurl
I know, I love that stuff! But I am almost through my last bottle and no one sells it in the Netherlands anymore :'(
There seems to be a problem with importing this product because of the labels..

2b-3a med-fine low porosity
Blog: KrullenWijzer.nl
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl
Hi,

I live somewhere with really hard water, and I can't use polyquats and a bunch other stuff that can build up. I've had really good luck using Pureology Purify Shampoo once every week or two. It's strong but sulphate free an had surfactants and chelators that get rid of hard water and polyquats/cationic surfactants and polymers. It's a bit expensive but lasts forever (I've been working on my bottle for a year and it's nowhere near done). Hop this helps
As far as I know, baking soda isn't a chelator anyway. You could try citric acid rinses--start with 1/4 teaspoon (equivalent) in a gallon of water. Citric acid is a better chelator than vinegar, at least in my experience.
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How about the Andrelon puur zijdeglans & zen conditioner for a chelating co-wash? It contains disodium EDTA, but also sodium chloride, so I'm not sure if NaCl is drying in this case...
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Last edited by Fimu; 05-08-2014 at 03:48 PM.
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I vote for the vinegar, lemon juice or citric acid if you can get it, however, Lorraine Massey, author of the "Curly Girl" books, recommended b.s. saying it removes buildup better than any shampoo and whenever I've used it it turns whatever was in my hair into a milky white liquid. Because of its high pH it would be drying to use often but not "worse" or even as bad as using a sulfate shampoo for the simple reason that some people forget that ALL shampoos have several other objectionable ingredients, including the preservatives, which some people would rather do without. So for me the choice between one single "harsh" ingredient and several that are not good for your health, the choice is obvious.

If you can get your hands on some borax (used for laundry), it's also alkaline but the pH is lower than b.s., and it's also very clarifying, emulsifying all the gunk in hair so it can be rinsed right out. It also has the advantage of being an antifungal so it can cure some very reluctant cases of dandruff, and all that's needed is one teaspoon dissolved in one cup of very hot water (allowed to cool off before using, of course) massaged into the scalp and allowed to sit for several minutes about 3x/week.

It's hard to find a shampoo with chelating properties that doesn't contain SLES, protein or polyquats. Protein and polyquats are giving me buildup problems too, so I really like to avoid them when washing my hair.
I have KC Come Clean, but even heavily diluted I find this very drying on my scalp.
Originally Posted by rapunzel4ever
what if you use a lo-poo or conditioner with no protein or polyquats to wash followed or preceded by vinegar rinse for the quelating?

It's hard to find a shampoo with chelating properties that doesn't contain SLES, protein or polyquats. Protein and polyquats are giving me buildup problems too, so I really like to avoid them when washing my hair.
I have KC Come Clean, but even heavily diluted I find this very drying on my scalp.
Originally Posted by rapunzel4ever
what if you use a lo-poo or conditioner with no protein or polyquats to wash followed or preceded by vinegar rinse for the quelating?
Originally Posted by butter52
This is what I do lately. And it's working!
Thanks for all of your help, gals!

2b-3a med-fine low porosity
Blog: KrullenWijzer.nl
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl

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