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Moose 03-15-2007 03:45 PM

How do I get uniform curl??
 
I have mid-back length hair that's relatively thick and fairly heavy. At the ends, I get fairly tight ringlets, but it gets looser the higher it goes.

I know I can get it uniform if I cut it off short, but I don't want to cut it! Is there anything I can do to even it out (preferably make the curl at the top tighter rather than mess with the curl at the bottom)? I can't have any strong scents, so that limits what products I can use.

Thanks!

Edit: I use Earth Science fragrance-free conditioner for CO-washing, Too Shea! for a conditioner, and some combination of Rockin Ringlets, Confident Coils and/or aloe gel.

meriellyn 03-15-2007 03:55 PM

Have you tried plopping?

Moose 03-15-2007 03:58 PM

Yep. Doesn't make any difference.

echokitten 03-15-2007 04:04 PM

That sound like my hair. I really like long hair and am unwilling to cut off any length, but what I do cut is long single curls to make it appear as though I have layers. I try to shake my dry hair to fall naturally, then I use a mirror to look at the back and pick out curl clumps usually smaller in diameter from my canopy. Then I trim off about 1/2" or more to make it shorter than the rest of the mass but not too short so that it looks odd, in a V shape pattern staggering the cuts.

These shorter pieces curl up over top of the major bulk of hair, camoflaging that part that doesn't curl as well as the rest.
I hope that makes sense...My hair is cut to a point in the back, mostly because I am still in a growing stage and my hair grows about that way anyway. But you can still achieve this with a rounded bottom cut too. I still have yet to teach my DH how to do this, he is a little apprehensive about cutting my hair. But it is only fair, I have been cutting his for years.

meriellyn 03-15-2007 04:08 PM

So that's kinda like long layers, cut curl by curl?

echokitten 03-15-2007 04:13 PM

Yeah, kinda layers but individual curls, instead of large layers. I will post pics next time I cut so you can see what I mean. But if you have a good stylist, you can explain it to them and tell them you want them to cut it dry. So that you can be sure that you won't get the big suprise shrinking curls that you would have with a wet cut.

Moose 03-15-2007 06:12 PM

Your hair does look a lot like mine, echokitten. I think my hair might still be adjusting to all the changes I made in my routine and to the weather change (went from being in the 40-50's to the 70-80's. I didn't move, it's just the season change.). Also, I might need to put a bit more styling stuff in it. I've only been using a little (one nickle-size puddle of RR and about the same of CC), so it might just need more.

echokitten 03-15-2007 07:00 PM

I also wanted to mention that I have figured out that if I use RR and LOOB I get better curls if I plop before I put mousse in then plop again. I think that because I have so much hair that the excess water weighs the curls down while the mousse is drying. If I plop out the excess water I get more volume and better spirals. I also have found that when I squish in mousse I do it in the same fashion that I squish out excess water and it also helps to encourage better clumping and spirals. It usually takes 2 or 3 softball sized amounts of mousse for good hair saturation. I think that mousse works better when hair is not sopping wet unlike gels which are the opposite.
I am loving HE Totally Twisted mousse right now. It makes my hair really shiney, does not feel producty and is not drying so far. Plus it is cheap, and usually on sale somewhere. I do use gels occasionally, but I am leaning more to mousse right now because of the application issues of gel. It takes alot and takes forever to dry, I keep it on hand for super humid days.

sfisher323 03-15-2007 07:10 PM

I wish I could help . . . magic? :? I also have relatively long hair and can't figure out how to get uniform curls . . .

echokitten 03-15-2007 07:30 PM

sfisher...I think you have more uniformity than you think. I just looked at your pics and your hair looks so pretty...and uniform. Maybe try the plopping-mousse-plopping thing I mentioned above. I am not sure of your hair thickness but it may work who knows?
To be really honest with you, I am more excited by the fact that I have shiny hair that doesn't feel like straw more than anything else. :)
I haven't had hair this shiny since gradeschool. Plus it is softer and I have discovered that after 15 years of dyeing that I really like my natural haircolor. It was a beast growing out but chopping it all off was a blessing in disguise.

echokitten 03-15-2007 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Moose
I've only been using a little (one nickle-size puddle of RR and about the same of CC), so it might just need more.

Dang, If your hair is as long as mine and you only use that much I think you may need a little more. I use 3 - 4 quarter sized puddles on my hair. Or I use 2 quarter puddles of CC. I have also had good results occasionally plopping a bit (3 min) then applying RR, my reasoning being that hair will soak up more than it would sopping wet maybe??? I just know it works on me so maybe for you?

sfisher323 03-15-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by echokitten
sfisher...I think you have more uniformity than you think. I just looked at your pics and your hair looks so pretty...and uniform. Maybe try the plopping-mousse-plopping thing I mentioned above. I am not sure of your hair thickness but it may work who knows?
To be really honest with you, I am more excited by the fact that I have shiny hair that doesn't feel like straw more than anything else. :)
I haven't had hair this shiny since gradeschool. Plus it is softer and I have discovered that after 15 years of dyeing that I really like my natural haircolor. It was a beast growing out but chopping it all off was a blessing in disguise.

Well, thank you. :) I guess I always imagine that everyone else's curls are more uniform, shiney, and less frizzy than my own. Sometimes I get spirals in the front and I would just love if they happened all over. :D I actually haven't tried any mousse at all, and definitely haven't tried the plopping-mousse-plopping thing. I'll have to pick up that HE Totally Twisted mousse next time I see it and give that a try. The idea that excess water weighs your hair down while the mousse is drying (if you don't plop first) makes sense. My hair is medium thickness, but I swear it holds on to water for dear life. Do you just plop for a few minutes the first time around?

Moose 03-16-2007 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by echokitten
Dang, If your hair is as long as mine and you only use that much I think you may need a little more.

I went back and looked at your pictures. My hair is actually longer than yours! :oops:
Yeah, I do think I might need to put some more CC and RR in it. Those are about the only things that I can use because of the scents in everything else.

echokitten 03-16-2007 04:19 AM

Moose-
Too bad that you are sensitive to that...But there has to be somewhere that makes unscented mousse....I will check on that. I have a good friend that is a stylist, I'll ask her.
I I have been trying to work out a recipe for flax seed that I can thin out to use as a curl enhancer. I will post results as soon as I can. It is homemade so there will be no artificial scenting, just herbs.

sfisher-
Yep, I just plop for about 3 min (I brush my teeth or whatever) then I put mousse in and plop for about 20 more min, depending on how distracted I get . I actually wash/style my hair at work in the winter and I don't diffuse (I am self employed and get to work at 5am) because I refuse to get up any earlier than I already do. In the summer, I don't mind walking to work with a wet head. If it is really windy I wrap my hair up like in my pics and just go plopping and plodding to work simultaneously. :lol:


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